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One unresolved issue is that users with a language set to other than en
see the default message in the selected language without the link to the help page. {{
broken ref/sandbox}} now supports translations of "see the help page" for the top used languages per
Wikipedia:Database reports/User preferences. The "see the help page" translations are in {{
broken ref/lang}} and can be easily expanded. Translations were culled from the various language versions of
MediaWiki:Newarticletext. Translations for the main message are already in place in each MediaWiki page. --—
Gadget850 (Ed)
talk 13:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Markup | Renders as |
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{{broken ref/sandbox |msg=Cite error: There are <code><ref></code> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a <code>{{Reflist}}</code> template or a <code><references /></code> tag |lang=en |help=Cite error refs without references |cat=Pages with missing references list }} |
Cite error: There are |
Markup | Renders as |
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Current message |
|
{{broken ref/sandbox |msg=Existen etiquetas <code><ref></code>, pero no se encontró una etiqueta <code><references /></code> |lang=es |help=Cite error refs without references |cat=Pages with missing references list }} |
Existen etiquetas |
I don't know why there are so many false negatives appear here, i.e. articles that don't actually have any fault. I would estimate at least 50%. The only way I know to clear them is by null edit. There must be one or more background processes which plod through all the pages, occasionally picking on one to mark incorrectly – some of the pages have had no change for as long as a year. It's all very tedious.
John of Cromer in Philippines ( talk) mytime= Sat 15:42, wikitime= 07:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
WT:Criteria for speedy deletion is currently showing "Cite error: <ref> tags exist, but no <references/> tag was found". (I am not asking for help fixing that particular problem; doing so would probably violate comment etiquette anyway.) Is this behavior intentional, or is it a reportable bug? Has this been discussed somewhere else that I haven't noticed? -- SoledadKabocha ( talk) 19:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
{{MediaWiki:Cite error refs without references}}
. A transclusion means we wouldn't have to manually keep the languages in sync.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
The standard English and Spanish pages have been updated. British and Canadian English pages have been redirected. {{ Broken ref}} now has a list of all supported language interface pages with an edit link. -- Gadget850 talk 01:01, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I tried maybe a half-dozen variations, saving one just for reference [3]. I'm not sure how they are linked in the implementation, so not sure what to change to get it to work. -- Ronz ( talk) 00:10, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
This error is (um, very) vague, and attempts to find out what it means just go round in circles. I ended up at Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error which claims to offer help, but does not. Perhaps this is an internal error or something -- surely it should be possible to give some sort of indication? Imaginatorium ( talk) 14:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
The references, used in prior text defined as:
<ref>{{singlechart|UKrandb|1|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{singlechart|UK|2|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}}</ref>
show incorrect results:
83. ^ |UK R&B (Official Charts Company) |align="center"|1
84. ^ |UK Singles (Official Charts Company) |align="center"|2
Cite error: <ref> tag with name "sc_UKrandb_Rihanna" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page).
Cite error: <ref> tag with name "sc_UK_Rihanna" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page).
What's wrong? Thx -- Frze ( talk) 14:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
<ref>
tags:{ {markup |{{singlechart|UKrandb|1|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}} || UK Hip Hop/R&B ( OCC) [1] |style="text-align:center;"|1 }}
References
<ref>
tags, which does not work. Please read the {{
Singlechart}} documentation or use another method to include these references. --
Gadget850
talk 15:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)There is a new feature in, showing Cite error: A list-defined reference is not used in the content (see the help page). instead of Cite error: <ref> tag with name "abc" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page). Now it is impossible to find out which list defined reference is not used. What can we do to let us show the old version, when the names were given? Thanks a lot. -- Frze ( talk) 08:00, 7 July 2013 (UTC) examples: Psilocybin mushroom, Here's to Never Growing Up
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names ( more than 1500 yesterday). It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.
Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.
Best wishes -- Frze > talk 08:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
A good idea of
User:TheJJJunk: He monitors certain backlog categories using {{User:TheJJJunk/Backlog}}
, a template he made:
Category | Current status |
---|---|
Not done | |
Done | |
Not done | |
Done |
which determines if the category is empty or not. He also uses
ARA, a script that he developed, to help fix citation errors. He hasn't used WikiBlame before. —
JJJ (
say hello) 16:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Copied from my talk page --
Frze
> talk 17:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Posting this here due to a couple of my ref tag cite errors over at Talk:Acid_Rap#Other_sources that the admins aren't helping much with. Ben0kto ( talk) 23:28, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to cite a blog post titled "Commandant's Column: Envisioning USAWC 2020" [6] ( archive) for which "2020" seemed like a reasonable name...denied! — rybec 21:58, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
<ref name="identifier">text of ref</ref>
, identifier cannot be a pure integer. You could use <ref name="USAWC2020">
but please note that
blogs are not considered reliable sources. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 23:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please add
|nocat={{{nocat|}}}
to the call to Template:broken ref on MediaWiki:Cite croak and any other error messages that lack it. That way, Help:Cite errors/header can include nocat, thereby preventing Help:Cite errors/Cite croak (and other pages) from being included in the maintenance categories. 63.251.123.2 ( talk) 20:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
template. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 22:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that Template:Broken ref works differently in the various namespaces. Actually, I remember that, because I took part in the original discussion regarding this:
This is pretty logical:
I have two suggestions:
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | ← | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 |
One unresolved issue is that users with a language set to other than en
see the default message in the selected language without the link to the help page. {{
broken ref/sandbox}} now supports translations of "see the help page" for the top used languages per
Wikipedia:Database reports/User preferences. The "see the help page" translations are in {{
broken ref/lang}} and can be easily expanded. Translations were culled from the various language versions of
MediaWiki:Newarticletext. Translations for the main message are already in place in each MediaWiki page. --—
Gadget850 (Ed)
talk 13:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Markup | Renders as |
---|---|
{{broken ref/sandbox |msg=Cite error: There are <code><ref></code> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a <code>{{Reflist}}</code> template or a <code><references /></code> tag |lang=en |help=Cite error refs without references |cat=Pages with missing references list }} |
Cite error: There are |
Markup | Renders as |
---|---|
Current message |
|
{{broken ref/sandbox |msg=Existen etiquetas <code><ref></code>, pero no se encontró una etiqueta <code><references /></code> |lang=es |help=Cite error refs without references |cat=Pages with missing references list }} |
Existen etiquetas |
I don't know why there are so many false negatives appear here, i.e. articles that don't actually have any fault. I would estimate at least 50%. The only way I know to clear them is by null edit. There must be one or more background processes which plod through all the pages, occasionally picking on one to mark incorrectly – some of the pages have had no change for as long as a year. It's all very tedious.
John of Cromer in Philippines ( talk) mytime= Sat 15:42, wikitime= 07:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
WT:Criteria for speedy deletion is currently showing "Cite error: <ref> tags exist, but no <references/> tag was found". (I am not asking for help fixing that particular problem; doing so would probably violate comment etiquette anyway.) Is this behavior intentional, or is it a reportable bug? Has this been discussed somewhere else that I haven't noticed? -- SoledadKabocha ( talk) 19:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
{{MediaWiki:Cite error refs without references}}
. A transclusion means we wouldn't have to manually keep the languages in sync.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
The standard English and Spanish pages have been updated. British and Canadian English pages have been redirected. {{ Broken ref}} now has a list of all supported language interface pages with an edit link. -- Gadget850 talk 01:01, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I tried maybe a half-dozen variations, saving one just for reference [3]. I'm not sure how they are linked in the implementation, so not sure what to change to get it to work. -- Ronz ( talk) 00:10, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
This error is (um, very) vague, and attempts to find out what it means just go round in circles. I ended up at Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error which claims to offer help, but does not. Perhaps this is an internal error or something -- surely it should be possible to give some sort of indication? Imaginatorium ( talk) 14:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
The references, used in prior text defined as:
<ref>{{singlechart|UKrandb|1|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{singlechart|UK|2|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}}</ref>
show incorrect results:
83. ^ |UK R&B (Official Charts Company) |align="center"|1
84. ^ |UK Singles (Official Charts Company) |align="center"|2
Cite error: <ref> tag with name "sc_UKrandb_Rihanna" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page).
Cite error: <ref> tag with name "sc_UK_Rihanna" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page).
What's wrong? Thx -- Frze ( talk) 14:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
<ref>
tags:{ {markup |{{singlechart|UKrandb|1|artist=Rihanna|song=Russian Roulette|date=December 12, 2009|accessdate=March 27, 2013}} || UK Hip Hop/R&B ( OCC) [1] |style="text-align:center;"|1 }}
References
<ref>
tags, which does not work. Please read the {{
Singlechart}} documentation or use another method to include these references. --
Gadget850
talk 15:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)There is a new feature in, showing Cite error: A list-defined reference is not used in the content (see the help page). instead of Cite error: <ref> tag with name "abc" defined in <references> is not used in prior text (see the help page). Now it is impossible to find out which list defined reference is not used. What can we do to let us show the old version, when the names were given? Thanks a lot. -- Frze ( talk) 08:00, 7 July 2013 (UTC) examples: Psilocybin mushroom, Here's to Never Growing Up
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names ( more than 1500 yesterday). It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.
Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.
Best wishes -- Frze > talk 08:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
A good idea of
User:TheJJJunk: He monitors certain backlog categories using {{User:TheJJJunk/Backlog}}
, a template he made:
Category | Current status |
---|---|
Not done | |
Done | |
Not done | |
Done |
which determines if the category is empty or not. He also uses
ARA, a script that he developed, to help fix citation errors. He hasn't used WikiBlame before. —
JJJ (
say hello) 16:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Copied from my talk page --
Frze
> talk 17:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Posting this here due to a couple of my ref tag cite errors over at Talk:Acid_Rap#Other_sources that the admins aren't helping much with. Ben0kto ( talk) 23:28, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to cite a blog post titled "Commandant's Column: Envisioning USAWC 2020" [6] ( archive) for which "2020" seemed like a reasonable name...denied! — rybec 21:58, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
<ref name="identifier">text of ref</ref>
, identifier cannot be a pure integer. You could use <ref name="USAWC2020">
but please note that
blogs are not considered reliable sources. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 23:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please add
|nocat={{{nocat|}}}
to the call to Template:broken ref on MediaWiki:Cite croak and any other error messages that lack it. That way, Help:Cite errors/header can include nocat, thereby preventing Help:Cite errors/Cite croak (and other pages) from being included in the maintenance categories. 63.251.123.2 ( talk) 20:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
template. --
Redrose64 (
talk) 22:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that Template:Broken ref works differently in the various namespaces. Actually, I remember that, because I took part in the original discussion regarding this:
This is pretty logical:
I have two suggestions: