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I am John White & I am trying to make edits to my bio that is posted on Wikipedia. I ask for your assistance in making these edits.
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Please edit /info/en/?search=Kranti_Kanade page so that points 'This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (February 2011)' & 'This article appears to be written like an advertisement. (February 2011)' go away. Please delete any information for which references cannot be found. Gautam.rayakar ( talk) 13:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Not done This is not the page to repeat questions that have already been asked and answered three times at
Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions.
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There is a proposal to add a short paragraph to the "Avoiding personal attacks" section of the No personal attacks policy page. The discussion is Proposed addition to "Avoiding personal attacks". Your participation is welcome. Lightbreather ( talk) 00:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
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the web-address in "external links" is to some bull-shit business that has nothing to do with the wiki page 74.44.226.91 ( talk) 05:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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Change the neelima(Shurithi) details, cause the info is wrong SasihariKarthikeyan ( talk) 09:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi: I have tried to add my own edit summaries to a couple of articles but am only really allowed to pick from a drop down menu (including some of the ones I usually use); has something changed? I looked at my preferences page but nothing seemed wrong... any help appreciated. Maybe I should log out and log back in? [just tried that last one; no luck] FeanorStar7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FeanorStar7 ( talk • contribs) 11:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Changed text to be more neutral and unbiased Cicirao ( talk) 17:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Added more reliable, neutral info about Earth's history from the talk page Cicirao ( talk) 17:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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CORRECTION: Story appears in Forensic Files Season 1 Episode 11 (not Season 11 Episode 40, which doesn't exist) 70.50.60.207 ( talk) 00:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The space(s) before a link in an edit summary get removed, unlike in articles. If you put them inside the link, they work. Is it supposed to be that way? And why no edit summer for a new section? Gah4 ( talk) 06:45, 4 November 2016 (UTC) This edit has an edit summary with space before its link. Gah4 ( talk) 06:47, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
== ... ==
. I don't understand what you say about spaces. Spaces are not removed before a link but multiple spaces everywhere may be displayed as a single space like in normal wikitext and html. Your edit summary in
[2] does have a space before the link.
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<html> (<span dir="auto"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) </html>
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<html> (<span> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="auto"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="ltr"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="rtl"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> </html>
I don't think edit summaries are necessarily helpful. (1) If you are watching the page, you probably should check the edit itself. Otherwise there is no way of determining if the summary is misleading or not. As this page says, editors should not give misleading summaries, but this is preaching to the converted. (2) Pasting the text of your edit into the summary space is just annoying in many cases. It's quite pointless on a discussion page because you have to read the thread to understand the context. (3) Many attempts to explain edits are incomprehensible without looking at the edit itself. I'm not saying that people shouldn't provide edit summaries, but I think the insistence on them is over the top and counterproductive in some cases.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 19:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
The screenshots on the page do not match what is currently displayed. Spel-Punc-Gram ( talk) 22:58, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The last writer states that ‘artificial’ glass is only made by using acid or a rock tumbler to produce the appearance of shards of glass tumbled in the water for many years. For many years, people walking the beaches of Lake Michigan have found glass that has been tumbled for many years in the water and sands and is cloudy with smooth edges. This is never referred to as ‘sea glass’ because it has been in the waters of the Great Lakes for many years and is referred to as ‘beach glass’. I can assure you it is naturally tumbled in the water. There are documented incidences of freighters and smaller vessels sinking 50-100 years ago. All of the glass items from those vessels have been tumbling in the lake waters for all of those years and are eventually thrown into the beaches as ‘genuine beach glass’. I have found pieces of finished glass with wire embedded inside that came from factories, etc. and have thousands of ‘genuine’ beach glass that never was inside a tumbler. For a writer to make a blanket statement that glass not found on ocean beaches becomes frosted and smooth only from a tumbler or acid is a very uninformed statement. Please correct your mistake. AdriSimone ( talk) 13:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
What does the abbreviation in WP:FIES refer to? I assume the “ES” is for “edit summary,” but the rest? — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 15:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Often I prematurely submit edits when I accidentally hit the Enter key when entering Edit Summaries, especially when typing quote characters. I think JavaScript should be added to disable form submission by the Enter key. Majesty of the Commons ( talk) 03:11, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
e.target.id === 'wpSummary'instead of (or even in (&&) addition to)
e.target.nodeName === 'INPUT'just to be more specific. It seems to work in my local .js (tested using Wikipedia:User script sandbox) with or without that change, so you could add it to your common.js or vector.js if you like - or global.js for all wiki sites. With it active I couldn't save this by hitting Enter in the edit summary field. -- Begoon 05:37, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Can some admin help?
I spoke to an editor who is using tools to revert other editors, without leaving an edit summary that explains why. I told him that this wasn't right. Pointing to this page.
And to the fact that because he is using tools, he has a special responsibility to use them properly. I also pointed out that he had made a revert that led to inclusion of an error.
The editor said that what he did was fine. And supporting that view he pointed out that this page is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. He said he was open to me bringing in an admin to his page here to discuss whether it is fine for him to use tools like this, without an explaining edit summary, when reverting another editor (in this case as I say it was also including a misstatement). 2604:2000:E016:A700:B4D2:B929:113C:49D ( talk) 21:45, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I've updated some stuff about the longer edit summaries that are now possible, but I'm not quite sure about some stuff:
Thanks for your input :) rchard2scout ( talk) 10:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Should edit summary be in past tense or present tense? I know that with the git / github version control system the present with imperative mood is used due to the non-linearity of the the editing. KhoikhoiPossum ( talk) 18:26, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I’ve seen special links (Special:____) being used in edit summaries before. One of them allowed no-redirect links to be placed in edit summaries. Also, I’ve seen links to diffs in edit summaries.
Is there a guide for this anywhere? Interqwark talk contribs 14:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
[[...]]
syntax) can be placed in edit summaries, including all such links to special pages.
Special:Diff is mentioned at
Help:Diff#Internal links. I haven't heard of a special page for redirect=no
.
Special:PermanentLink (see
Help:Permanent link) could be used to link to a revision, e.g.
Special:PermanentLink/803533110 which is a link to the latest revision of the redirect
Examples. But if the page gets new edits then
Special:PermanentLink/803533110 would still link to the same revision.
Help:Special page mentions many special pages but not all,
Special:SpecialPages links to many special pages.
PrimeHunter (
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Recently noted that Template:Summary2 states:
This is considered an important guideline in Wikipedia.
This is obviously incorrect and needs to be addressed. Thanks - wolf 14:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I had added
which was subsequently removed with the edit summary People often use exlinks in edit summaries to say where they are getting their information, where a copyvio is pasted from, etc. This is not a bad thing.
@
Natureium:
It's a "bad thing" because of all the problems of WP:LINKSPAM.
I think it's bad form for indicating a ref, which I believe what "where they are getting their information" means.
Yes, external links are regularly used in edit summaries when dealing with copyvio issues.
Are there any other common situations?
I'm thinking of restoring the edit, identifying copyvio work as an exception, and linking WP:LINKSPAM. -- Ronz ( talk) 19:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all the great comments. "External links" is clearly too broad. My thinking now is to make it specifically about link spam:
I'm not happy with the wording, but it at least gets the point across for discussion. -- Ronz ( talk) 20:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Also see Wikipedia talk:Reverting#"Do not revert good edits with poor edit summaries or bad usernames.". A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
First, I have noted the contents of discussion, "Enter key should be disabled", above and I'm looking at the various scripts linked there to determine which if any might help me. And indeed, it was precisely a couple of incidents of my miskeying with the Enter key that led to me starting this topic.
However, the point of this post is to ask a couple of questions:
Summary Edit Mechanism: I can't seem to be able to find how to edit or add a summary after submission. I believe, like me, most of the times editors are focused on the quality of submission and just forget to add summary. Should the recent submission be "undone" and then re-submitted with a summary? Moughera ( talk) 10:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Is there no guidance on eg. what grammatical voice is best used for edit summaries? It's common for projects using Git, for example, to instruct contributors to write commit messages in a particular tense: [1] Walkersam ( talk) 19:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
I don't know where else to say it, so I am asking here. It seems that in Watchlist listings, maybe elsewhere where edit summaries come out, there is no space between the page name and the date. This makes it hard to read, especially in page names ending with numbers. Gah4 ( talk) 01:42, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
For some articles, using a minimal or non-existent edit summary is a red flag, but for others, particularly recently the extremely flooded 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic, which has seen abysmal edit summary usage, the incentive structure seems to be the opposite: using a detailed summary draws attention that can lead to reversions, whereas not using one just adds your edit to the pile that's moving too fast for adequate scrutiny. We've added an edit notice pleading for better edit summary usage, but I'm not sure what can be done to change the fundamental incentives. Thoughts welcome. Sdkb ( talk) 19:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
O Kristian skempis (γεννημένος στις 3 Φεβρουαρίου 1995 ) είναι Ελλάδος επαγγελματίας ποδοσφαίρου και πρώτην παίχτης.
Πρώτην Ελλάδος διεθνής έχει παίξει στο παρελθόν για τον Α.Ο.ΙΑΣΩΝ ΙΛΙΟΥ ,Α.Ε.ΠΟΣΕΙΔΩΝΑΣ ΓΛΥΦΑΔΑ, Α.Ο.ΠΗΓΑΣΟΣ ΠΑΤΗΣΙΩΝ ΠΑΝΑΘΛΗΤΙΚΟΣ ΟΜΙΛΟΣ ΚΩΦΩΝ στην Ελλάδα Kristian skempis ( talk) 00:40, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
In the archives this appears from about 10 years ago:
Searching not supported on principle? Hello, I wonder if there's some kind of policy reason for not allowing searching of edit summaries, or is it just that nobody has bothered to implement it yet. If the latter, is there a place to propose/discuss/help with adding it? Thanks! -- 92.229.120.251 (talk) 9:33 am, 7 September 2009, Monday (10 years, 8 months, 29 days ago) (UTC−4)
I'm interested in whether a FULL set of edit summaries can be exported for a long-history page so that it can be searched. I'm brought to this question by Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention, where there is no practical way to search for names similar to those which are in the current reported set; however, names being considered often appear in the edit summaries, and searching in a regex-supported text editor like Notepad++ could provide a practical way to hunt for previous discussions of similar names. Thanks for your thoughts. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 02:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The license is not acceptable. It doesn't give room for change besides the fact that biometrics can now read our retina so in essence all policies are rendered null and void. Wicole23 ( talk) 10:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
I understand that wikilinks are allowed in edit summaries, but not other things. It would be nice to have {{ tl}} for the same reason as wikilinks, so we could mention uses, and possibly changes, to templates. Gah4 ( talk) 02:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
{{[[Template:Example|Example]]}}
to produce {{
Example}} in an edit summary. I sometimes do it when I'm adding a template to several pages and can copy-paste the edit summary. Otherwise I just write
Template:Example, or unlinked {{Example}} which just displays what you wrote, also if you add parameters.
PrimeHunter (
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{{tl|Example}}
in wikitext is just a template call of
Template:Tl. It is not a MediaWiki feature but a template made here at the English Wikipedia. MediaWiki is used by thousands of other wikis. Template calls are not expanded in edit summaries and shouldn't be for many reasons. We cannot make {{tl|Example}}
work locally. It would require an unlikely MediaWiki change. Expansion of all templates in edit summaries is a non-starter. In theory there could be a customizable feature allowing a wiki to make certain restricted transformations in edit summaries but I don't see it happening. To work permanently including in tools which examine edit summaries and at other wikis which may import a page with page history, the transformed version would have to be saved as the final edit summary.
PrimeHunter (
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{{tl|Example}}
{{[[Template:Example|Example]]}}
@ Elmidae: Regarding your edit, please educate me whether and how having two similar userboxes listed on a page is an issue? I can’t see how it’s a "straight duplicate" or a "non-constructive" addition. I’d like to point out that every parameter of {{ User:Idell/editsummary}} is different from the last template of the list, except for what the info says when read out. Furthermore, that template deviates from the usual standard as it’s size is larger and causes formatting issues when grouping templates on a userpage, whereas my version doesn’t. Wikipedians are free to choose one template over the other, as I’m not removing either from the list. Idell ( talk) 14:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Under the section 'Notes for expeirenced users' make the following changes: Change stand for Adminship to run for adminship 139.64.171.63 ( talk) 23:47, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
After publishing my addition of a See also link Elections_in_New_Zealand#See_also I noticed View history showed I'd typed in the summary that it was an addition to External links. After clicking undo and deleting what was in the summary box I typed the correct summary and clicked Publish. Not seeing any change in View history I deleted my addition and started to type in the summary box but before I'd finished the page reacted as if I'd clicked Publish and the summary appeared with ddition instead of Addition, and I had to delete and start again. This time everything went OK but it would have been preferable if I'd been able to correct my original mistake. Mcljlm ( talk) 16:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
The edit summary for this edit reads: Need discussion - to gain consensus for changes. Does anyone have a substantive objection to the change? Butwhatdoiknow ( talk) 23:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Filing this here to make it more accessible to future editors.
𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 13:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Looking for consensus to switch the order of the a) and b) parts in the description at the beginning, i.e. change
I expect many directs to this page are via warnings, admonitions, and advice to use an edit summary. I suspect a vast majority of those directions were meant to address a lack of reason given for edits. What say you all? signed, Willondon ( talk) 03:01, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Done October 4, 2022 -
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I am John White & I am trying to make edits to my bio that is posted on Wikipedia. I ask for your assistance in making these edits.
John White LaBelieves ( talk) 14:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please edit /info/en/?search=Kranti_Kanade page so that points 'This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (February 2011)' & 'This article appears to be written like an advertisement. (February 2011)' go away. Please delete any information for which references cannot be found. Gautam.rayakar ( talk) 13:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Not done This is not the page to repeat questions that have already been asked and answered three times at
Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions.
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There is a proposal to add a short paragraph to the "Avoiding personal attacks" section of the No personal attacks policy page. The discussion is Proposed addition to "Avoiding personal attacks". Your participation is welcome. Lightbreather ( talk) 00:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
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the web-address in "external links" is to some bull-shit business that has nothing to do with the wiki page 74.44.226.91 ( talk) 05:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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Change the neelima(Shurithi) details, cause the info is wrong SasihariKarthikeyan ( talk) 09:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi: I have tried to add my own edit summaries to a couple of articles but am only really allowed to pick from a drop down menu (including some of the ones I usually use); has something changed? I looked at my preferences page but nothing seemed wrong... any help appreciated. Maybe I should log out and log back in? [just tried that last one; no luck] FeanorStar7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FeanorStar7 ( talk • contribs) 11:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Changed text to be more neutral and unbiased Cicirao ( talk) 17:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Added more reliable, neutral info about Earth's history from the talk page Cicirao ( talk) 17:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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CORRECTION: Story appears in Forensic Files Season 1 Episode 11 (not Season 11 Episode 40, which doesn't exist) 70.50.60.207 ( talk) 00:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The space(s) before a link in an edit summary get removed, unlike in articles. If you put them inside the link, they work. Is it supposed to be that way? And why no edit summer for a new section? Gah4 ( talk) 06:45, 4 November 2016 (UTC) This edit has an edit summary with space before its link. Gah4 ( talk) 06:47, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
== ... ==
. I don't understand what you say about spaces. Spaces are not removed before a link but multiple spaces everywhere may be displayed as a single space like in normal wikitext and html. Your edit summary in
[2] does have a space before the link.
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<html> (<span dir="auto"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) </html>
Gah4 ( talk) 21:08, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
<html> (<span> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="auto"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="ltr"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> (<span dir="rtl"> OK, <a href="/info/en/?search=Help_talk:Edit_summary">Help_talk:Edit_summary</a></span>) end<br/> </html>
I don't think edit summaries are necessarily helpful. (1) If you are watching the page, you probably should check the edit itself. Otherwise there is no way of determining if the summary is misleading or not. As this page says, editors should not give misleading summaries, but this is preaching to the converted. (2) Pasting the text of your edit into the summary space is just annoying in many cases. It's quite pointless on a discussion page because you have to read the thread to understand the context. (3) Many attempts to explain edits are incomprehensible without looking at the edit itself. I'm not saying that people shouldn't provide edit summaries, but I think the insistence on them is over the top and counterproductive in some cases.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 19:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
The screenshots on the page do not match what is currently displayed. Spel-Punc-Gram ( talk) 22:58, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The last writer states that ‘artificial’ glass is only made by using acid or a rock tumbler to produce the appearance of shards of glass tumbled in the water for many years. For many years, people walking the beaches of Lake Michigan have found glass that has been tumbled for many years in the water and sands and is cloudy with smooth edges. This is never referred to as ‘sea glass’ because it has been in the waters of the Great Lakes for many years and is referred to as ‘beach glass’. I can assure you it is naturally tumbled in the water. There are documented incidences of freighters and smaller vessels sinking 50-100 years ago. All of the glass items from those vessels have been tumbling in the lake waters for all of those years and are eventually thrown into the beaches as ‘genuine beach glass’. I have found pieces of finished glass with wire embedded inside that came from factories, etc. and have thousands of ‘genuine’ beach glass that never was inside a tumbler. For a writer to make a blanket statement that glass not found on ocean beaches becomes frosted and smooth only from a tumbler or acid is a very uninformed statement. Please correct your mistake. AdriSimone ( talk) 13:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
What does the abbreviation in WP:FIES refer to? I assume the “ES” is for “edit summary,” but the rest? — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 15:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Often I prematurely submit edits when I accidentally hit the Enter key when entering Edit Summaries, especially when typing quote characters. I think JavaScript should be added to disable form submission by the Enter key. Majesty of the Commons ( talk) 03:11, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
e.target.id === 'wpSummary'instead of (or even in (&&) addition to)
e.target.nodeName === 'INPUT'just to be more specific. It seems to work in my local .js (tested using Wikipedia:User script sandbox) with or without that change, so you could add it to your common.js or vector.js if you like - or global.js for all wiki sites. With it active I couldn't save this by hitting Enter in the edit summary field. -- Begoon 05:37, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Can some admin help?
I spoke to an editor who is using tools to revert other editors, without leaving an edit summary that explains why. I told him that this wasn't right. Pointing to this page.
And to the fact that because he is using tools, he has a special responsibility to use them properly. I also pointed out that he had made a revert that led to inclusion of an error.
The editor said that what he did was fine. And supporting that view he pointed out that this page is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. He said he was open to me bringing in an admin to his page here to discuss whether it is fine for him to use tools like this, without an explaining edit summary, when reverting another editor (in this case as I say it was also including a misstatement). 2604:2000:E016:A700:B4D2:B929:113C:49D ( talk) 21:45, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I've updated some stuff about the longer edit summaries that are now possible, but I'm not quite sure about some stuff:
Thanks for your input :) rchard2scout ( talk) 10:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Should edit summary be in past tense or present tense? I know that with the git / github version control system the present with imperative mood is used due to the non-linearity of the the editing. KhoikhoiPossum ( talk) 18:26, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I’ve seen special links (Special:____) being used in edit summaries before. One of them allowed no-redirect links to be placed in edit summaries. Also, I’ve seen links to diffs in edit summaries.
Is there a guide for this anywhere? Interqwark talk contribs 14:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
[[...]]
syntax) can be placed in edit summaries, including all such links to special pages.
Special:Diff is mentioned at
Help:Diff#Internal links. I haven't heard of a special page for redirect=no
.
Special:PermanentLink (see
Help:Permanent link) could be used to link to a revision, e.g.
Special:PermanentLink/803533110 which is a link to the latest revision of the redirect
Examples. But if the page gets new edits then
Special:PermanentLink/803533110 would still link to the same revision.
Help:Special page mentions many special pages but not all,
Special:SpecialPages links to many special pages.
PrimeHunter (
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20:29, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Recently noted that Template:Summary2 states:
This is considered an important guideline in Wikipedia.
This is obviously incorrect and needs to be addressed. Thanks - wolf 14:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I had added
which was subsequently removed with the edit summary People often use exlinks in edit summaries to say where they are getting their information, where a copyvio is pasted from, etc. This is not a bad thing.
@
Natureium:
It's a "bad thing" because of all the problems of WP:LINKSPAM.
I think it's bad form for indicating a ref, which I believe what "where they are getting their information" means.
Yes, external links are regularly used in edit summaries when dealing with copyvio issues.
Are there any other common situations?
I'm thinking of restoring the edit, identifying copyvio work as an exception, and linking WP:LINKSPAM. -- Ronz ( talk) 19:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all the great comments. "External links" is clearly too broad. My thinking now is to make it specifically about link spam:
I'm not happy with the wording, but it at least gets the point across for discussion. -- Ronz ( talk) 20:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Also see Wikipedia talk:Reverting#"Do not revert good edits with poor edit summaries or bad usernames.". A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
First, I have noted the contents of discussion, "Enter key should be disabled", above and I'm looking at the various scripts linked there to determine which if any might help me. And indeed, it was precisely a couple of incidents of my miskeying with the Enter key that led to me starting this topic.
However, the point of this post is to ask a couple of questions:
Summary Edit Mechanism: I can't seem to be able to find how to edit or add a summary after submission. I believe, like me, most of the times editors are focused on the quality of submission and just forget to add summary. Should the recent submission be "undone" and then re-submitted with a summary? Moughera ( talk) 10:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Is there no guidance on eg. what grammatical voice is best used for edit summaries? It's common for projects using Git, for example, to instruct contributors to write commit messages in a particular tense: [1] Walkersam ( talk) 19:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
I don't know where else to say it, so I am asking here. It seems that in Watchlist listings, maybe elsewhere where edit summaries come out, there is no space between the page name and the date. This makes it hard to read, especially in page names ending with numbers. Gah4 ( talk) 01:42, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
For some articles, using a minimal or non-existent edit summary is a red flag, but for others, particularly recently the extremely flooded 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic, which has seen abysmal edit summary usage, the incentive structure seems to be the opposite: using a detailed summary draws attention that can lead to reversions, whereas not using one just adds your edit to the pile that's moving too fast for adequate scrutiny. We've added an edit notice pleading for better edit summary usage, but I'm not sure what can be done to change the fundamental incentives. Thoughts welcome. Sdkb ( talk) 19:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
O Kristian skempis (γεννημένος στις 3 Φεβρουαρίου 1995 ) είναι Ελλάδος επαγγελματίας ποδοσφαίρου και πρώτην παίχτης.
Πρώτην Ελλάδος διεθνής έχει παίξει στο παρελθόν για τον Α.Ο.ΙΑΣΩΝ ΙΛΙΟΥ ,Α.Ε.ΠΟΣΕΙΔΩΝΑΣ ΓΛΥΦΑΔΑ, Α.Ο.ΠΗΓΑΣΟΣ ΠΑΤΗΣΙΩΝ ΠΑΝΑΘΛΗΤΙΚΟΣ ΟΜΙΛΟΣ ΚΩΦΩΝ στην Ελλάδα Kristian skempis ( talk) 00:40, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
In the archives this appears from about 10 years ago:
Searching not supported on principle? Hello, I wonder if there's some kind of policy reason for not allowing searching of edit summaries, or is it just that nobody has bothered to implement it yet. If the latter, is there a place to propose/discuss/help with adding it? Thanks! -- 92.229.120.251 (talk) 9:33 am, 7 September 2009, Monday (10 years, 8 months, 29 days ago) (UTC−4)
I'm interested in whether a FULL set of edit summaries can be exported for a long-history page so that it can be searched. I'm brought to this question by Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention, where there is no practical way to search for names similar to those which are in the current reported set; however, names being considered often appear in the edit summaries, and searching in a regex-supported text editor like Notepad++ could provide a practical way to hunt for previous discussions of similar names. Thanks for your thoughts. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 02:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The license is not acceptable. It doesn't give room for change besides the fact that biometrics can now read our retina so in essence all policies are rendered null and void. Wicole23 ( talk) 10:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
I understand that wikilinks are allowed in edit summaries, but not other things. It would be nice to have {{ tl}} for the same reason as wikilinks, so we could mention uses, and possibly changes, to templates. Gah4 ( talk) 02:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
{{[[Template:Example|Example]]}}
to produce {{
Example}} in an edit summary. I sometimes do it when I'm adding a template to several pages and can copy-paste the edit summary. Otherwise I just write
Template:Example, or unlinked {{Example}} which just displays what you wrote, also if you add parameters.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
06:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
{{tl|Example}}
in wikitext is just a template call of
Template:Tl. It is not a MediaWiki feature but a template made here at the English Wikipedia. MediaWiki is used by thousands of other wikis. Template calls are not expanded in edit summaries and shouldn't be for many reasons. We cannot make {{tl|Example}}
work locally. It would require an unlikely MediaWiki change. Expansion of all templates in edit summaries is a non-starter. In theory there could be a customizable feature allowing a wiki to make certain restricted transformations in edit summaries but I don't see it happening. To work permanently including in tools which examine edit summaries and at other wikis which may import a page with page history, the transformed version would have to be saved as the final edit summary.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
11:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
{{tl|Example}}
{{[[Template:Example|Example]]}}
@ Elmidae: Regarding your edit, please educate me whether and how having two similar userboxes listed on a page is an issue? I can’t see how it’s a "straight duplicate" or a "non-constructive" addition. I’d like to point out that every parameter of {{ User:Idell/editsummary}} is different from the last template of the list, except for what the info says when read out. Furthermore, that template deviates from the usual standard as it’s size is larger and causes formatting issues when grouping templates on a userpage, whereas my version doesn’t. Wikipedians are free to choose one template over the other, as I’m not removing either from the list. Idell ( talk) 14:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Under the section 'Notes for expeirenced users' make the following changes: Change stand for Adminship to run for adminship 139.64.171.63 ( talk) 23:47, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
After publishing my addition of a See also link Elections_in_New_Zealand#See_also I noticed View history showed I'd typed in the summary that it was an addition to External links. After clicking undo and deleting what was in the summary box I typed the correct summary and clicked Publish. Not seeing any change in View history I deleted my addition and started to type in the summary box but before I'd finished the page reacted as if I'd clicked Publish and the summary appeared with ddition instead of Addition, and I had to delete and start again. This time everything went OK but it would have been preferable if I'd been able to correct my original mistake. Mcljlm ( talk) 16:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
The edit summary for this edit reads: Need discussion - to gain consensus for changes. Does anyone have a substantive objection to the change? Butwhatdoiknow ( talk) 23:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Filing this here to make it more accessible to future editors.
𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 13:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Looking for consensus to switch the order of the a) and b) parts in the description at the beginning, i.e. change
I expect many directs to this page are via warnings, admonitions, and advice to use an edit summary. I suspect a vast majority of those directions were meant to address a lack of reason given for edits. What say you all? signed, Willondon ( talk) 03:01, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Done October 4, 2022 -
Butwhatdoiknow (
talk)
15:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)