The map currently has a few errors [1], I hope they will be cheked soon... Čeha ( razgovor) 08:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Uploaded a local corrected copy, since at Commons Pannonian is claiming that Bosnian and Bosniak are different languages. (Should be checked; if Bosnian and Bosniak are added together, more municipalities may prove to be plurality Bosnian.) — kwami ( talk) 19:36, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am claiming that Montenegrin census list Bosnian language and Bosniak language separatelly and therefore they were represented as such in original map. This version uploaded by user:Kwamikagami is example of his original research, example of falsified census results and example of his personal opinion. And if he ever saw published results of Montenegrin or Serbian census or if he regularly attended maths classes in school, he would know that speakers of Serbian are including more than 50% of population in all Serbian and Montenegrin municipalities where Bosnian and Bosniak are spoken as a minority languages and that all other languages in these municipalities (aside from Serbian) counted together could not reach 50% of population in such municipalities. PANONIAN 00:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Such drama. Are you claiming that Bosnian and Bosniak are not the same language? If so, please write an appropriately sourced article on "Bosniak language" and we can adjust the map accordingly.
- From your comments at Commons, it would appear you mean that Serbian speakers are a majority in all Sandžak mun'ties that you have coded as Serbian, not that all mun'ties in Serbia are majority Serbian, correct? — kwami ( talk) 09:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- And please don't bring your edit war here. If I upload under a separate name, someone will want to move it over to Commons, and we'll have the same problem again. The old version is not being used here at WP-en, because it does not fit the article: there are not two languages, Bosnian and Bosniak. If you believe they are, please modify the article to reflect that first. — kwami ( talk) 09:43, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is your edit war mister Kwamikagami, not mine. You purposely uploaded this file under same name as my to make usage of my map impossible here and it is not allowed by Wiki policy. In the cases of such disagreement, you have to upload your file under different name, and I uploaded your file here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Serbo_croatian_languages2006_02.png So, please stop trying to make usage of my own file impossible in English Wiki or I will report you to the admins. You can post your file into article about Bosnian language, I do not care, but do not try to pollute all other articles with your POV file. Your file version represent only your personal POV and there is no source that could support your view that people of Plav municipality declared Bosnian instead Bosniak in census. And I really do not understand your problem with linguistic situation in Serbia - most municipalities in Serbia are inhabited by absolute majority of speakers of some languages, and there are only few mixed municipalities where no single language would reach 50%. Such municipalities are Subotica, Kovačica and Dimitrovgrad, but there is no significant Bosniak population in such municipalities. Your lack of knowledge about former Yugoslavia is not an excuse for your behavior, thought. Also, I have no time to edit article about Bosnian language - I based my map on valid source (official Montenegrin census) and such source is more relevant than one Wikipedia article. And speaking about move of your map to commons, I will not change your map, so do not worry about that. Leave my map alone and I will leave your. It is simple as that.
PANONIAN 10:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- And here are official Montenegrin census results about language: http://www.monstat.org/userfiles/file/popis03/Popis03.zip - they are in Cyrillic script, but it is clear from that document that in the Plav (Плав) municipality (page 11) there are 6.500 speakers of Bosniak (Бошњачки) and only 192 speakers of Bosnian (Босански). In another words, almost all Bosniaks there declared that their language is Bosniak. You can ask someone who knows to read Cyrillic script to translate this for you, thought. PANONIAN 10:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is your edit war mister Kwamikagami, not mine. You purposely uploaded this file under same name as my to make usage of my map impossible here and it is not allowed by Wiki policy. In the cases of such disagreement, you have to upload your file under different name, and I uploaded your file here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Serbo_croatian_languages2006_02.png So, please stop trying to make usage of my own file impossible in English Wiki or I will report you to the admins. You can post your file into article about Bosnian language, I do not care, but do not try to pollute all other articles with your POV file. Your file version represent only your personal POV and there is no source that could support your view that people of Plav municipality declared Bosnian instead Bosniak in census. And I really do not understand your problem with linguistic situation in Serbia - most municipalities in Serbia are inhabited by absolute majority of speakers of some languages, and there are only few mixed municipalities where no single language would reach 50%. Such municipalities are Subotica, Kovačica and Dimitrovgrad, but there is no significant Bosniak population in such municipalities. Your lack of knowledge about former Yugoslavia is not an excuse for your behavior, thought. Also, I have no time to edit article about Bosnian language - I based my map on valid source (official Montenegrin census) and such source is more relevant than one Wikipedia article. And speaking about move of your map to commons, I will not change your map, so do not worry about that. Leave my map alone and I will leave your. It is simple as that.
PANONIAN 10:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The map currently has a few errors [1], I hope they will be cheked soon... Čeha ( razgovor) 08:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Uploaded a local corrected copy, since at Commons Pannonian is claiming that Bosnian and Bosniak are different languages. (Should be checked; if Bosnian and Bosniak are added together, more municipalities may prove to be plurality Bosnian.) — kwami ( talk) 19:36, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am claiming that Montenegrin census list Bosnian language and Bosniak language separatelly and therefore they were represented as such in original map. This version uploaded by user:Kwamikagami is example of his original research, example of falsified census results and example of his personal opinion. And if he ever saw published results of Montenegrin or Serbian census or if he regularly attended maths classes in school, he would know that speakers of Serbian are including more than 50% of population in all Serbian and Montenegrin municipalities where Bosnian and Bosniak are spoken as a minority languages and that all other languages in these municipalities (aside from Serbian) counted together could not reach 50% of population in such municipalities. PANONIAN 00:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Such drama. Are you claiming that Bosnian and Bosniak are not the same language? If so, please write an appropriately sourced article on "Bosniak language" and we can adjust the map accordingly.
- From your comments at Commons, it would appear you mean that Serbian speakers are a majority in all Sandžak mun'ties that you have coded as Serbian, not that all mun'ties in Serbia are majority Serbian, correct? — kwami ( talk) 09:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- And please don't bring your edit war here. If I upload under a separate name, someone will want to move it over to Commons, and we'll have the same problem again. The old version is not being used here at WP-en, because it does not fit the article: there are not two languages, Bosnian and Bosniak. If you believe they are, please modify the article to reflect that first. — kwami ( talk) 09:43, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is your edit war mister Kwamikagami, not mine. You purposely uploaded this file under same name as my to make usage of my map impossible here and it is not allowed by Wiki policy. In the cases of such disagreement, you have to upload your file under different name, and I uploaded your file here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Serbo_croatian_languages2006_02.png So, please stop trying to make usage of my own file impossible in English Wiki or I will report you to the admins. You can post your file into article about Bosnian language, I do not care, but do not try to pollute all other articles with your POV file. Your file version represent only your personal POV and there is no source that could support your view that people of Plav municipality declared Bosnian instead Bosniak in census. And I really do not understand your problem with linguistic situation in Serbia - most municipalities in Serbia are inhabited by absolute majority of speakers of some languages, and there are only few mixed municipalities where no single language would reach 50%. Such municipalities are Subotica, Kovačica and Dimitrovgrad, but there is no significant Bosniak population in such municipalities. Your lack of knowledge about former Yugoslavia is not an excuse for your behavior, thought. Also, I have no time to edit article about Bosnian language - I based my map on valid source (official Montenegrin census) and such source is more relevant than one Wikipedia article. And speaking about move of your map to commons, I will not change your map, so do not worry about that. Leave my map alone and I will leave your. It is simple as that.
PANONIAN 10:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- And here are official Montenegrin census results about language: http://www.monstat.org/userfiles/file/popis03/Popis03.zip - they are in Cyrillic script, but it is clear from that document that in the Plav (Плав) municipality (page 11) there are 6.500 speakers of Bosniak (Бошњачки) and only 192 speakers of Bosnian (Босански). In another words, almost all Bosniaks there declared that their language is Bosniak. You can ask someone who knows to read Cyrillic script to translate this for you, thought. PANONIAN 10:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is your edit war mister Kwamikagami, not mine. You purposely uploaded this file under same name as my to make usage of my map impossible here and it is not allowed by Wiki policy. In the cases of such disagreement, you have to upload your file under different name, and I uploaded your file here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Serbo_croatian_languages2006_02.png So, please stop trying to make usage of my own file impossible in English Wiki or I will report you to the admins. You can post your file into article about Bosnian language, I do not care, but do not try to pollute all other articles with your POV file. Your file version represent only your personal POV and there is no source that could support your view that people of Plav municipality declared Bosnian instead Bosniak in census. And I really do not understand your problem with linguistic situation in Serbia - most municipalities in Serbia are inhabited by absolute majority of speakers of some languages, and there are only few mixed municipalities where no single language would reach 50%. Such municipalities are Subotica, Kovačica and Dimitrovgrad, but there is no significant Bosniak population in such municipalities. Your lack of knowledge about former Yugoslavia is not an excuse for your behavior, thought. Also, I have no time to edit article about Bosnian language - I based my map on valid source (official Montenegrin census) and such source is more relevant than one Wikipedia article. And speaking about move of your map to commons, I will not change your map, so do not worry about that. Leave my map alone and I will leave your. It is simple as that.
PANONIAN 10:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)