I think this would be easier to read if the majority OS slice always started perfectly horizontal, so e.g. you could estimate how much greater than 50% it is, etc.
The sum is significantly short of 100% (it's 97.85%). Checking if your pie chart adds up to 100% is always a good test before going public. For the record, I understand the skewing caused by applying the median function on the input data, but the result of that operation can't be said to be a percent of anything -- it's just a measure of proportionality. -- Gutza T T+ 00:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
There is a real inconsistent boundary between what an Operating System is:
- Why is iPhone included as an Operating System on this chart? I understand iPhone OS is an OS, yet J2ME - the operating system every mobile phone device ever created since the early 90s (except minorities iPhone, Windows Mobile) - is not included.
- If your answer is that it is a "smartphone," Symbian S60 is the leader of the Smartphone market, iPhone is still a minority, the Smart phone market only a tiny percentage of the Phone market. (Symbian S60 supports the J2ME Operating System also, so J2ME would also be counted in the Smart phone market)
- Almost every human being (including children and the elderly) own a mobile phone running the J2ME; small children as young as 7 owning a separate phone also are users of the J2ME Operating System. I find it confusing that Windows XP - normally installed on a 'main' computer shared between 2-3 users - has won against phones. If J2ME was to be included. Windows XP would be the size of Mac's current slice.
What do you think? -- Ipfreely555 ( talk) 10:06, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Re: Inconsistency in OS Definition **
To answer your questions, I believe that the reason iPhones are included on the chart, as well as the distribution of the chart among the various operating systems is that this is a "Web Share," meaning that the numbers here were generated from hits on a particular page or pages that take in information about the computer that is accessing that particular page. And as far as web-browsing goes, most phones do not browse the web readily. -mhaueter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.109.101 ( talk) 22:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
You believe? You don't know? your not sure but you think it might be so? Could you find out? You you find out why that same site data doesn't contain every other ultra capable phone os? Could you find a reasonable explenation based in fact and not your beliefs?
70.15.191.119 (
talk) 06:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- We create the chart using the median values of the current table of sources. The sources use web statistics as their methodology for segregating what an OS is -- we just report what they report. Henceforth, there are many many OSs that are not included because a statistically insignificant percentage of those OSs are not used to browse the web sites monitored by the sources. Also J2ME is a programming platform not an OS. Jdm64 ( talk) 08:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
If you are including iPhone/iOS data, how about the Android platform? Especially since there are now more smartphones shipping with Android than iPhones.
96.224.1.188 (
talk) 01:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
According to this http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.9.206 ( talk) 20:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
XP share should be 44% not 40%. Harumphy ( talk) 12:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Why did you change to bar charts? Personally I think the pie charts looked much better. Also I agree with the sentiments above re android. If you're going to breakout Apple and Windows OS versions, why not Linux versions? 217.155.37.105 ( talk) 20:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is probably best discussed in Template_talk:OS_marketshare.-- Harumphy ( talk) 20:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I think this would be easier to read if the majority OS slice always started perfectly horizontal, so e.g. you could estimate how much greater than 50% it is, etc.
The sum is significantly short of 100% (it's 97.85%). Checking if your pie chart adds up to 100% is always a good test before going public. For the record, I understand the skewing caused by applying the median function on the input data, but the result of that operation can't be said to be a percent of anything -- it's just a measure of proportionality. -- Gutza T T+ 00:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
There is a real inconsistent boundary between what an Operating System is:
- Why is iPhone included as an Operating System on this chart? I understand iPhone OS is an OS, yet J2ME - the operating system every mobile phone device ever created since the early 90s (except minorities iPhone, Windows Mobile) - is not included.
- If your answer is that it is a "smartphone," Symbian S60 is the leader of the Smartphone market, iPhone is still a minority, the Smart phone market only a tiny percentage of the Phone market. (Symbian S60 supports the J2ME Operating System also, so J2ME would also be counted in the Smart phone market)
- Almost every human being (including children and the elderly) own a mobile phone running the J2ME; small children as young as 7 owning a separate phone also are users of the J2ME Operating System. I find it confusing that Windows XP - normally installed on a 'main' computer shared between 2-3 users - has won against phones. If J2ME was to be included. Windows XP would be the size of Mac's current slice.
What do you think? -- Ipfreely555 ( talk) 10:06, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Re: Inconsistency in OS Definition **
To answer your questions, I believe that the reason iPhones are included on the chart, as well as the distribution of the chart among the various operating systems is that this is a "Web Share," meaning that the numbers here were generated from hits on a particular page or pages that take in information about the computer that is accessing that particular page. And as far as web-browsing goes, most phones do not browse the web readily. -mhaueter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.109.101 ( talk) 22:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
You believe? You don't know? your not sure but you think it might be so? Could you find out? You you find out why that same site data doesn't contain every other ultra capable phone os? Could you find a reasonable explenation based in fact and not your beliefs?
70.15.191.119 (
talk) 06:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- We create the chart using the median values of the current table of sources. The sources use web statistics as their methodology for segregating what an OS is -- we just report what they report. Henceforth, there are many many OSs that are not included because a statistically insignificant percentage of those OSs are not used to browse the web sites monitored by the sources. Also J2ME is a programming platform not an OS. Jdm64 ( talk) 08:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
If you are including iPhone/iOS data, how about the Android platform? Especially since there are now more smartphones shipping with Android than iPhones.
96.224.1.188 (
talk) 01:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
According to this http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.9.206 ( talk) 20:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
XP share should be 44% not 40%. Harumphy ( talk) 12:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Why did you change to bar charts? Personally I think the pie charts looked much better. Also I agree with the sentiments above re android. If you're going to breakout Apple and Windows OS versions, why not Linux versions? 217.155.37.105 ( talk) 20:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is probably best discussed in Template_talk:OS_marketshare.-- Harumphy ( talk) 20:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)