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Copyright

I have posted the following on the file page:

Non-free media information and use rationale true for Glass run channel
Description

This is a close up image of a glass run channel, having searched the internet, I couldn't find where the image was from, so I presume the website hosting the image has gone down (I believe the website originally mentioned creative commons, but now I can't find it).

Source

A website, however, as stated, the website hosting it seems to have gone down.

Article

Glass run channel

Portion used

This is just a small photo of a glass run channel, with nothing else, there are dozens of (other copyrighted) almost identical photos on the internet, so this photo wouldn't affect the person who created the image at all (and the owner wasn't selling the image).

Low resolution?

The photo is only 4kb and the owner wasn't selling the image, so the owner would not have been affected.

Purpose of use

This image illustrates what a glass run channel actually is, although the article and other images show roughly where the channel is, as well as the material it's made from (rubber), only this type of photo would allow people to see which part of the vehicle it actually is.

Replaceable?

There are no other free images of this on the internet.

Fair use Fair use of copyrighted material in the context of Glass run channel//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Glass_Run_Channel.jpgtrue

I believe this justifies using the image in accordance with the Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Cliff12345 ( talk) 17:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply

  • As I have justified the use of the image in accordance with Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline, if there are no objections within a couple of days I will remove the deletion tag. Cliff12345 ( talk) 17:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
    • This is an obvious WP:NFCC#1 failure. Sorry, unless you can prove that the image is free, there is no way to keep it. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 17:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
      • I don't see how it violates Wikipedia:NFCC#1. As I have stated, although it appears I can no longer prove the image is free I have stated that it is eligible for non-free use. There is no free equivalent as there are no free images available/images which could be feasibly created. Cliff12345 ( talk) 18:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
        • The photo shows a piece of rubber. Taking a photo of rubber is trivial. Thus, free images can be created. Taking a free photo of some rubber is much easier than taking a free photo of Kim Jong-un (see discussion here). -- Stefan2 ( talk) 19:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • I don't have any glass run channels on me or available to take a photo of, hence it doesn't seem trivial to take a photo of one to me (if someone has a spare glass run channel that they could photograph and upload then I'm more than happy to remove the current image, however at the moment I cannot produce or make a free image of one). The argument that it's just a piece of rubber doesn't make sense to me, it's like arguing that Kim Jong-un is just some cells and that cells are easy to take a photo of. It is the arrangement of the rubber in the glass run channel that renders taking the photo non trivial. Cliff12345 ( talk) 20:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • I'll give a couple of days for a reply, otherwise I'll remove the delete tag. Cliff12345 ( talk) 14:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • There's been no new comments, so I will remove the delete tag and change the image to non-free fair use. Cliff12345 ( talk) 10:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Copyright

I have posted the following on the file page:

Non-free media information and use rationale true for Glass run channel
Description

This is a close up image of a glass run channel, having searched the internet, I couldn't find where the image was from, so I presume the website hosting the image has gone down (I believe the website originally mentioned creative commons, but now I can't find it).

Source

A website, however, as stated, the website hosting it seems to have gone down.

Article

Glass run channel

Portion used

This is just a small photo of a glass run channel, with nothing else, there are dozens of (other copyrighted) almost identical photos on the internet, so this photo wouldn't affect the person who created the image at all (and the owner wasn't selling the image).

Low resolution?

The photo is only 4kb and the owner wasn't selling the image, so the owner would not have been affected.

Purpose of use

This image illustrates what a glass run channel actually is, although the article and other images show roughly where the channel is, as well as the material it's made from (rubber), only this type of photo would allow people to see which part of the vehicle it actually is.

Replaceable?

There are no other free images of this on the internet.

Fair use Fair use of copyrighted material in the context of Glass run channel//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Glass_Run_Channel.jpgtrue

I believe this justifies using the image in accordance with the Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Cliff12345 ( talk) 17:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply

  • As I have justified the use of the image in accordance with Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline, if there are no objections within a couple of days I will remove the deletion tag. Cliff12345 ( talk) 17:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
    • This is an obvious WP:NFCC#1 failure. Sorry, unless you can prove that the image is free, there is no way to keep it. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 17:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
      • I don't see how it violates Wikipedia:NFCC#1. As I have stated, although it appears I can no longer prove the image is free I have stated that it is eligible for non-free use. There is no free equivalent as there are no free images available/images which could be feasibly created. Cliff12345 ( talk) 18:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
        • The photo shows a piece of rubber. Taking a photo of rubber is trivial. Thus, free images can be created. Taking a free photo of some rubber is much easier than taking a free photo of Kim Jong-un (see discussion here). -- Stefan2 ( talk) 19:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • I don't have any glass run channels on me or available to take a photo of, hence it doesn't seem trivial to take a photo of one to me (if someone has a spare glass run channel that they could photograph and upload then I'm more than happy to remove the current image, however at the moment I cannot produce or make a free image of one). The argument that it's just a piece of rubber doesn't make sense to me, it's like arguing that Kim Jong-un is just some cells and that cells are easy to take a photo of. It is the arrangement of the rubber in the glass run channel that renders taking the photo non trivial. Cliff12345 ( talk) 20:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • I'll give a couple of days for a reply, otherwise I'll remove the delete tag. Cliff12345 ( talk) 14:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC) reply
          • There's been no new comments, so I will remove the delete tag and change the image to non-free fair use. Cliff12345 ( talk) 10:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC) reply

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