When did ISIS lose control of these towns? The map depicts them outside of their control.-- 41.76.208.114 ( talk) 06:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
They've lost control of Abu Kamal and the rest of the Deir ez-Zor Governate. The Map needs to be updated. I'd do it but I don't know how. Toolen ( talk) 06:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I find this map to be a bit more useful than the current one on Wikipedia, since it shows the cities and a more precise area of control. Any chance we could have something like that here? Esn ( talk) 21:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
That island of ISIS looks a bit dubious to me. According to the Ministry of Peshmerga [1], their southern line of control is the Hamrin Mountains, which cut from NW to SE of that red island. Akerbeltz ( talk) 21:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
There is a map made my BBC News in that and that link which is different this current one, BBC News' source is Institue for the Study of War, well I don't know this isntitue but sounds cool and it is BBC so I believe that is a reliable source. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 06:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Kurds got northern Syria and Iraq ( Iraqi Kudistan) as you know and they are only defending their lands not advancing like ISIS so it makes sense not to mark cities as Kurdish controlled etc. You can put that map in your source section by the way as you refered to it.
And what is that red area on western Syria, i couldn't see it in BBC's map but in this one it marked as ISIS controlled ?
And found another map with Kurds mentioned in elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 14:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry mate didin't know it. Spesh531 could you join this conversation please. What do you think about those things? elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
I tried adding a third colour group in GIMP but I'm just useless with graphics. But I really think we need a third colour group in 3 shades (I was going to use greens but not hung up about the colour) for KRG (officially), KRG (controlled) and YPG (the Syrian Kurdish militia). Akerbeltz ( talk) 11:45, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
It would be good if you could add the date to the bottom of the map; e.g., "As of 21 June 2014". Then, every time you update the map, you also update the date. I edited the caption in Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant but it would be better if you edit the date right on the map itself. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 19:45, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
It would be useful to know what are the sources for the changes in the map of the ISIS controlled area. Mondolkiri1 ( talk) 01:44, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Click on the images to find out. elmasmelih 14:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I've consulted a source concerning to the capture of the region surrounding Amerli: [3], but it displays several flags, some of which I don't have a clue about which do they belong. I recognize the Kurds, the Turkmens and the Iraqi flags, but others I have no idea. Someone could help about this, and update the map? (if it's considered to be a reliable source, of course) Mondolkiri1 ( talk) 15:34, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Here at 2:08 VICE news shows a map that looks much less like a solid shape, many more holes in it. Victor Grigas ( talk) 04:05, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
The desert regions are not inhabited, so to have it shaded as controlled is wrong and implies a successful war campaign in those areas. Maybe have it cross-hatched in red. If it is cut off by the isis territory, then it can't remain pink/grey; that would be just as misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.89.230 ( talk) 00:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Please update the map. 84.171.90.26 ( talk) 16:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
This map doesn't look like any other map I've seen of areas controlled by ISIS, including the maps that appear in what is stated as the sources for this map. No map shows ISIS as controlling anything but scattered towns and some of the roads connecting them.-- 158.222.143.13 ( talk) 08:12, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
158.222.143.13 forum shopped their opinion to here /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Maps_if_ISIL without alterting any related talk page (this one, ISIL and Onefireuser started deleting the maps from the ISIL article. I'm opposed to these actions as they do not help the reader. See [ the Atlantic article]. "Roggio of The Long War Journal, which is also tracking the spread of ISIS, writes in an email that ISIS influence can be felt even in these deserts, however. "Iraqis in the small hamlets and villages not directly under Islamic State control know who are truly in control," he says. "Think of it like this: Americans living in the remotest areas of Alaska often see little to no government involvement, but ultimately they know the U.S. government can assert itself if it needed to." Legacypac ( talk) 21:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
I did not forum-shop, I asked how to mark it as OR. I didn't ask for its deletion or removal, and I don't think it ought to be removed. I do think that it should be clarified whether or not it constitutes original research, and modified if so.-- 158.222.143.13 ( talk) 03:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
update plz. 84.162.3.115 ( talk) 21:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
I suspect that the whole claimed territory thing may be a fabrication created a couple of years ago with a map presented in this Google image search with results from 01/01/2013. Is there anything in any properly reliable source to back this up. Gregkaye ✍♪ 20:50, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Wiki crew!
Firstly, sorry for my imperfect English - I am not a native speaker.
I will try to be brief as possible. I am doing something like dissertation (on lower level) and my topic is "Unrecognized countries and territorial disputes". My goal is to create maps very similar to this "Territorial control of the ISIS" as an attachment of the work. So I have downloaded QGIS and shapefile layers of administrative areas of the countries and coloured the regions controlled by rebels (e.g. ISIS).
Now I want to export these maps so that the unrecognized countries my work is focused on are well-marked and highlighted. I find the Wiki solution (simple, grey background just with borders) very elegant but there lies the problem - I need a shapefile (and open source, if possible :-) version of these amazing background maps in order to import them to my QGIS project.
So here are my questions: 1) Where can I find the shapefiles of the Wiki (or similar) background maps? Or is there a way how to get the .shp layer from the .svg file? 2) Is there a better and more efficient way how to do this kind of maps (e.g. in a different programm)? Or simply, how do you create the great maps like this one?
I would be very grateful for any instruction, advice or tip! Have a nice day!
František Kopřiva
P.S. I will check this "Talk" section but you can also answer me via e-mail (frantisek-kopriva(at)seznam.cz) in order to avoid this off-topic Q&A and delete my question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.168.178.9 ( talk) 23:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
In the new map, Saudi Arabia has the same color as the uncontrolled parts of Syria and Iraq, which contradicts the color key for the images... Naraht ( talk) 19:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Turkey should be added to 'presence' countries. There are many reports that indicate of their presence and Turkey is dubbed as 'gateway/highway to jihad' by some media outlets. Also they have carried out at least 4 attacks in Turkey. Check Turkish intervention against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant for further details. kazekagetr 21:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
As of 16 March 2015, this map is tremendously outdated in both Syria/Iraq and Libya. IS-aligned militants also control territory beyond the scope of the present map, particularly the recently-joined Boko Haram in Nigeria. If we aren't going to update the map, can we at least take it down? IS is not a country, and the current war map is doing fine in terms of the situation in Syria/Iraq; it is a little redundant. Futur3g4ry ( talk) 22:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
When did ISIS lose control of these towns? The map depicts them outside of their control.-- 41.76.208.114 ( talk) 06:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
They've lost control of Abu Kamal and the rest of the Deir ez-Zor Governate. The Map needs to be updated. I'd do it but I don't know how. Toolen ( talk) 06:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I find this map to be a bit more useful than the current one on Wikipedia, since it shows the cities and a more precise area of control. Any chance we could have something like that here? Esn ( talk) 21:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
That island of ISIS looks a bit dubious to me. According to the Ministry of Peshmerga [1], their southern line of control is the Hamrin Mountains, which cut from NW to SE of that red island. Akerbeltz ( talk) 21:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
There is a map made my BBC News in that and that link which is different this current one, BBC News' source is Institue for the Study of War, well I don't know this isntitue but sounds cool and it is BBC so I believe that is a reliable source. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 06:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Kurds got northern Syria and Iraq ( Iraqi Kudistan) as you know and they are only defending their lands not advancing like ISIS so it makes sense not to mark cities as Kurdish controlled etc. You can put that map in your source section by the way as you refered to it.
And what is that red area on western Syria, i couldn't see it in BBC's map but in this one it marked as ISIS controlled ?
And found another map with Kurds mentioned in elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 14:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry mate didin't know it. Spesh531 could you join this conversation please. What do you think about those things? elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
I tried adding a third colour group in GIMP but I'm just useless with graphics. But I really think we need a third colour group in 3 shades (I was going to use greens but not hung up about the colour) for KRG (officially), KRG (controlled) and YPG (the Syrian Kurdish militia). Akerbeltz ( talk) 11:45, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
It would be good if you could add the date to the bottom of the map; e.g., "As of 21 June 2014". Then, every time you update the map, you also update the date. I edited the caption in Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant but it would be better if you edit the date right on the map itself. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 19:45, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
It would be useful to know what are the sources for the changes in the map of the ISIS controlled area. Mondolkiri1 ( talk) 01:44, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Click on the images to find out. elmasmelih 14:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I've consulted a source concerning to the capture of the region surrounding Amerli: [3], but it displays several flags, some of which I don't have a clue about which do they belong. I recognize the Kurds, the Turkmens and the Iraqi flags, but others I have no idea. Someone could help about this, and update the map? (if it's considered to be a reliable source, of course) Mondolkiri1 ( talk) 15:34, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Here at 2:08 VICE news shows a map that looks much less like a solid shape, many more holes in it. Victor Grigas ( talk) 04:05, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
The desert regions are not inhabited, so to have it shaded as controlled is wrong and implies a successful war campaign in those areas. Maybe have it cross-hatched in red. If it is cut off by the isis territory, then it can't remain pink/grey; that would be just as misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.89.230 ( talk) 00:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Please update the map. 84.171.90.26 ( talk) 16:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
This map doesn't look like any other map I've seen of areas controlled by ISIS, including the maps that appear in what is stated as the sources for this map. No map shows ISIS as controlling anything but scattered towns and some of the roads connecting them.-- 158.222.143.13 ( talk) 08:12, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
158.222.143.13 forum shopped their opinion to here /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Maps_if_ISIL without alterting any related talk page (this one, ISIL and Onefireuser started deleting the maps from the ISIL article. I'm opposed to these actions as they do not help the reader. See [ the Atlantic article]. "Roggio of The Long War Journal, which is also tracking the spread of ISIS, writes in an email that ISIS influence can be felt even in these deserts, however. "Iraqis in the small hamlets and villages not directly under Islamic State control know who are truly in control," he says. "Think of it like this: Americans living in the remotest areas of Alaska often see little to no government involvement, but ultimately they know the U.S. government can assert itself if it needed to." Legacypac ( talk) 21:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
I did not forum-shop, I asked how to mark it as OR. I didn't ask for its deletion or removal, and I don't think it ought to be removed. I do think that it should be clarified whether or not it constitutes original research, and modified if so.-- 158.222.143.13 ( talk) 03:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
update plz. 84.162.3.115 ( talk) 21:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
I suspect that the whole claimed territory thing may be a fabrication created a couple of years ago with a map presented in this Google image search with results from 01/01/2013. Is there anything in any properly reliable source to back this up. Gregkaye ✍♪ 20:50, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Wiki crew!
Firstly, sorry for my imperfect English - I am not a native speaker.
I will try to be brief as possible. I am doing something like dissertation (on lower level) and my topic is "Unrecognized countries and territorial disputes". My goal is to create maps very similar to this "Territorial control of the ISIS" as an attachment of the work. So I have downloaded QGIS and shapefile layers of administrative areas of the countries and coloured the regions controlled by rebels (e.g. ISIS).
Now I want to export these maps so that the unrecognized countries my work is focused on are well-marked and highlighted. I find the Wiki solution (simple, grey background just with borders) very elegant but there lies the problem - I need a shapefile (and open source, if possible :-) version of these amazing background maps in order to import them to my QGIS project.
So here are my questions: 1) Where can I find the shapefiles of the Wiki (or similar) background maps? Or is there a way how to get the .shp layer from the .svg file? 2) Is there a better and more efficient way how to do this kind of maps (e.g. in a different programm)? Or simply, how do you create the great maps like this one?
I would be very grateful for any instruction, advice or tip! Have a nice day!
František Kopřiva
P.S. I will check this "Talk" section but you can also answer me via e-mail (frantisek-kopriva(at)seznam.cz) in order to avoid this off-topic Q&A and delete my question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.168.178.9 ( talk) 23:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
In the new map, Saudi Arabia has the same color as the uncontrolled parts of Syria and Iraq, which contradicts the color key for the images... Naraht ( talk) 19:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Turkey should be added to 'presence' countries. There are many reports that indicate of their presence and Turkey is dubbed as 'gateway/highway to jihad' by some media outlets. Also they have carried out at least 4 attacks in Turkey. Check Turkish intervention against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant for further details. kazekagetr 21:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
As of 16 March 2015, this map is tremendously outdated in both Syria/Iraq and Libya. IS-aligned militants also control territory beyond the scope of the present map, particularly the recently-joined Boko Haram in Nigeria. If we aren't going to update the map, can we at least take it down? IS is not a country, and the current war map is doing fine in terms of the situation in Syria/Iraq; it is a little redundant. Futur3g4ry ( talk) 22:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC)