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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Draft:The Monument Mythos was copied or moved into Analog horror with this edit on April 16, 2024. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

After numerous complaints about the controversies section of the article, it has been deleted. Please do not undo these changes. The section does not pertain to the topic enough to be in the article. Ap2495 ( talk) 15:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply

( BLP violation removed)

we're gonna move him into another draft later once we're done with this article and submit it for review Dellvell ( talk) 16:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I say if you want the controversies section, make it its own article and link it to the original page. People can definitely know about it, I just think the current article should only describe the series and not outside events. Ap2495 ( talk) 18:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Also because your section contained BLP violations. Ap2495 ( talk) 18:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Do not re-add the controversies section! A decision has been made to make another draft later.

Do not undo any deletions of that section. An agreement has been made to make a new draft that includes that section. Do not attempt to mark it as vandalism. Any and all attempts at re-adding will be met with an undo, and a possible referral. We have all information on it that we need. I repeat, do not undo ANY attempts at deletion for that section. Dellvell ( talk) 16:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

For reference, I made a draft which can be found here:

Draft:Alex Casanas Dellvell ( talk) 17:04, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey @ Dellvell, for some reason, @ Barkeep49 deleted your Alex page so you'll have to remake it unfortunately. Ap2495 ( talk) 18:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

It was deleted because it was an entirely unsourced negative BLP. Wikipedia has policies against this. If it's recreated with the same unsourced content, it will be removed again. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 19:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

But it was a draft that was like 5 minutes old. Ap2495 ( talk) 20:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The age of the article does not matter. Per WP:BLP, "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 20:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

i was trying to create a google doc about him and separate unnecessary junk in the article. this is shameful. we're trying to create an article here. leave us be or actually collaborate with us. DeIIveloper ( talk) 12:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

( BLP violation removed)

Google Docs and Reddit are not reliable sources. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 01:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

( BLP violation removed)

for context, alex actually admitted and apologized about it. it did happen, and these are reliable sources. DeIIveloper ( talk) 12:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

also for some reason i forgot the password to my dellvell account so ig i gotta use this one :sob: DeIIveloper ( talk) 12:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

nvm got the password Dellvell ( talk) 17:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The article has been formulated enough to be made an official article. Those who want to make final touches/changes before release, do it in the next 24 hours.

Good job to all who have worked on it in a positive and sensible way, and I'd like to see if we could put it under extended protection for the foreseeable future.

For those who try to disrupt the editing process, please leave the article alone. Alex is a controversial figure, yes, but we need to leave it as unbiased as possible. Do not add the controversy section, otherwise we will mark it for vandalism and make a report. Don't be one of those people. Thanks.

As I said, 24 hours until the draft is graduated to an article. If you need more time, let me know. Dellvell ( talk) 17:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The process is beginning. Thank you all for your time on working. DeIIveloper ( talk) 17:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Hyphenation Expert, i think this draft should be deleted like the article by the same CSD reasons as it contains the exact same information as the article that was deleted. Thanks for reading this message. 31.4.208.94 ( talk) 22:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

We're trying, but the admins refuse to allow it. Ap2495 ( talk) 16:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Greetings, i am Alex Brad Casanas, mostly known on YouTube, Reddit and Discord by my MISTERMANTICORE alias. I had to make this account to make a request to my fans and to Wikipedia. I saw that my fans and Reddit followers are trying to create a draft about my most famous Analog Horror series. @ Dellvell, @ Ap2495 and @ DeIIveloper, i am glad you want to make a Wikipedia article about my works so passionately, but i would like to request you to desist on your intentions temporarilly and delete it.

After the known problems i created time ago and you all sadly discovered time ago by some leaks from the MANTICORD server, i told you via an audio record that i was seeking mental help from a therapist. Well, my therapist told me after that to divert from the Mythos as it was the main cause of the incident i made and i regret doing. That is why i decided to end the Monument Mythos series, first with the MODERN DAY spin-off and later with the divert into my new projects.

This Wikipedia article brings me happiness for having such a loyal and hard-working fanbase, but realizing that the own article exists also brings me pain, sadness and grief (you know, the "Grief can make you a monster" line was actually from my deepest feelings after the incident's leak spread). My therapist asked me two days ago to contact you all from here as both an exercise to fight my feelings and as a request to all my fans to help me conserve and strenghten my slow-recovering sanity. So please, stop working on the article for an undefined timelapse, and when i am completely mentally restored we can discuss on the Reddit server to make it again. Thanks to all my fans for the work anyways, you are my most valuable help apart of my family, my parents Ramiro and Eva and my therapist.

@ Fastily, can it be possible to delete this draft for my mental sanity and restore it in a future so my fans can write about their beloved Analog Horror series? Thanks for your answer in advance.

Yours faithfully,

Alex Brad Casanas (MISTER MANTICORE) Alex Brad Casanas ( talk) 00:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Okay. As per your request, I will cease work on the article. Thank you for letting us know! DeIIveloper ( talk) 00:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Please bear with me while I work on deleting it. DeIIveloper ( talk) 00:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Very well. Ap2495 ( talk) 15:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I will try my best to convince the admins to delete it, but they currently seem very stubborn. However, while I have the chance, I want to thank you for keeping us thoroughly entertained all these years. Ap2495 ( talk) 16:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

It's not stubbornness, it's policy. There's nothing wrong with the draft, so no reason for deletion. Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{Hold me like a Grudge} 16:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Well, there aren't sufficient references and credible sources so that's a problem worth deleting. Ap2495 ( talk) 16:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

we have 15 total references. Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{Must be a circus in town} 16:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

But are they actually credible? Ap2495 ( talk) 16:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

seems like it Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{Must be a circus in town} 16:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Should an article be this small though? Ap2495 ( talk) 16:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

i think it's size is fine, judging by the amount of refs and video links. But you are welcome to try and expand it! Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{Must be a circus in town} 16:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

But we don't want to expand it. Ap2495 ( talk) 16:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

we? ^who? who is "we"? Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 16:44, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Me, @ Alex Brad Casanas, and @ DeIIveloper. Ap2495 ( talk) 16:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

the latter two are banned users (one for being a sock), Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 16:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Fair enough. Can we at least give the community a chance to come to a consensus? Ap2495 ( talk) 16:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

We (the community) have reached one. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:The Monument Mythos Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 16:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I think that @ Ap2495 means a consensus between the Monument Mythos subreddit and not the Wikipedia admins. But this article is not property of Alex Casanas nor from his subreddit but from WikiMedia. 31.4.211.126 ( talk) 16:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't understand where reddit fits into this, but you are correct. WP:OWN Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 17:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The entire idea of creating the article started on the subreddit. Ap2495 ( talk) 17:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oh, ok. Thank you for telling me. Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 17:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

No problem. I just think they should get a say in this. Ap2495 ( talk) 17:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

If members of the sub-reddit find appropriate reasons for deletion, then another MfD should be alright. Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 17:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

So be it. Ap2495 ( talk) 17:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

what? Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{MfD I beg} 17:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Nothin Ap2495 ( talk) 17:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

ok Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^Ex-Mørtis 13:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Deleting draft.