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Citing the Daily Telegraph (of Sydney)
I have been converting some bare URL's into citations, but found most of the Daily Telegraph URL's (www.dailytelegraph.com.au) that I have converted are blocked by a paywall, and cannot be viewed for free, as a subscription is needed. I have tagged these citations as needing verification, by someone who hasa subscription, because the standard editing form templates do not extract any metadata from these URL's. Also, the Internet Archive crawler is blocked and redirected to require a subscription, too. What information I can obtain by visiting the redirect page, which is only an article title, makes me wonder if this website is a
reliable source. The
new page patrol source guide for Australian sources indicates it is unreliable. With it being behind a paywall, too, this just compounds the issues with
verification to make it next to useless for most Wikipedia editors to verify an article. -
Cameron Dewe (
talk)
01:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
This article needs to be distinguish from the
Sydney gangland war article, once this article is ready to be moved to the main article space. The current draft article name is not suitable for an
article title because it starts with the definite article "The", contrary to
WP:DEFINITE which advises avoiding using the definite article if it is not part of the formal name and to be
consistent with the way the existing article is named. Also, the title should use
lower case for the ordinary words in the title, as per the
naming conventions for capitalisation which say: "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper name." I have nominated using
Sydney gangland war (2020s) as it is the closest name to the draft article name, but I am open to other possible titles that make sense. Whatever happens, a title will likely need to be
disambiguated from the article about the
Sydney gangland war of the 1980s. -
Cameron Dewe (
talk)
00:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or
poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see
this noticeboard.
This draft does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following
WikiProjects:
The Sydney Gangland War (2020s) is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of
Australia and
Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the
project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath articles
Citing the Daily Telegraph (of Sydney)
I have been converting some bare URL's into citations, but found most of the Daily Telegraph URL's (www.dailytelegraph.com.au) that I have converted are blocked by a paywall, and cannot be viewed for free, as a subscription is needed. I have tagged these citations as needing verification, by someone who hasa subscription, because the standard editing form templates do not extract any metadata from these URL's. Also, the Internet Archive crawler is blocked and redirected to require a subscription, too. What information I can obtain by visiting the redirect page, which is only an article title, makes me wonder if this website is a
reliable source. The
new page patrol source guide for Australian sources indicates it is unreliable. With it being behind a paywall, too, this just compounds the issues with
verification to make it next to useless for most Wikipedia editors to verify an article. -
Cameron Dewe (
talk)
01:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
This article needs to be distinguish from the
Sydney gangland war article, once this article is ready to be moved to the main article space. The current draft article name is not suitable for an
article title because it starts with the definite article "The", contrary to
WP:DEFINITE which advises avoiding using the definite article if it is not part of the formal name and to be
consistent with the way the existing article is named. Also, the title should use
lower case for the ordinary words in the title, as per the
naming conventions for capitalisation which say: "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper name." I have nominated using
Sydney gangland war (2020s) as it is the closest name to the draft article name, but I am open to other possible titles that make sense. Whatever happens, a title will likely need to be
disambiguated from the article about the
Sydney gangland war of the 1980s. -
Cameron Dewe (
talk)
00:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply