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@ TheGreatPeng: Hi. I would like to say that the title may be a bit strange for native speakers, and I note that there is little English media coverage of this story yet, but if it is reported perhaps a name change could be considered. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 12:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
A newly registered user said, 'One of the information has been covered by any medium to major news organization.' Really? What a big joke! So, see
When "Fat Cat's Death" Dominates Hot Searches from Lianhe Zaobao, the largest Singaporean Chinese-language newspaper,
there is part 1–7 coverages from China Press, a major Malaysian Chinese-language newspaper,
The "Fat Cat" incident ferments; Chinese public opinion reflects on the bottom line of social morality from Radio Free Asia,
Takeout orders in memory of "Fat Cat" found to be empty or watered down, five catering chain brands apologize from The Paper, a major Chinese digital newspaper,
The Death of Player Fat Cat from Sin Chew Daily, a leading Chinese-language newspaper in Malaysia,
The death of an e-sports boy attracted much attention from netizens: it overshadowed the collapse of Meida Expressway from Deutsche Welle, a major German media,
The tragedy of the fat cat who committed suicide online, is it a relationship issue or a legal issue? from China Digital Times,
The "Fat Cat" incident suddenly became a trending topic on Weibo, and an extramarital affair was revealed from Sound of Hope, an international Chinese-language radio network,
McDonald's Vietnam apologizes for slogan mocking tragic death of Chinese man from VnExpress,
and many more in major media from Southeast Asia, such as [3], [4], [5], [6], [7].
Clearly a case of WP:IDONTLIKE. If you are not happy with these significant coverages, there are many more you can find yourself. Thanks TheGreatPeng ( talk) 13:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
AirshipJungleman29
talk
09:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
TheGreatPeng ( talk) 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC).
Comment: I would suggest having some alternatives. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 15:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per discussion on
WT:DYK
RoySmith
(talk)
14:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I've just redone nearly the whole article to remove the real life names of nonpublic figures, un-sourced BLP content, and copyright violations imported from the Chinese-language Wikipedia article. To the extent that DYK encourages content creation, this is the kind of content that we should not encourage.
Rjjiii (
talk)
02:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. (
closed by non-admin page mover) –
Hilst
[talk]
16:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Suicide of Fat Cat → Suicide of Pangmao – Should use pinyin instead of free translation Coddlebean ( talk) 01:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 05:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
The name of the strait comes from the Ancient Greek Βόσπορος (Bósporos), which was folk-etymologised as βοὸς πόρος, i.e. "cattle strait" (or "Ox-ford" [1] [2]), from the genitive of boûs βοῦς 'ox, cattle' + poros πόρος 'passage', thus meaning 'cattle-passage', or 'cow passage'. [3] This is a reference to the Greek mythological story of Io, who was transformed into a cow and condemned to wander the Earth until she crossed the Bosporus, where she met the Titan Prometheus, who comforted her by telling her that she would be restored to human form by Zeus and become the ancestor of the greatest of all heroes, Heracles (Hercules).
References
Cheating is natural in love and I've experienced it but it shouldn't be punishable by death yes I know he made a mistake we all make mistakes maybe that's why he did it because the girl didn't love him anymore that's why he didn't break up because he knew that maybe Fatcat will be hurt but the girl is wrong, she doesn't have the courage to tell him and why will he be sentenced to death if you are in his position, will you do that? 103.120.69.119 ( talk) 09:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Will somebody please provide a UTC equivalent of the time of death in the lede so that article can account for the differences in time zones? Thanks Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 08:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@ The Account 2: Turns out that the fact the police exonerated the alleged culprit was missing in the article; I have included it. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 08:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
I already explained that earlier version on May 9 was translated from Chinese Wikipedia's May 9 verson . It's not a violation and I already tagged {{ translated}} on the talk page. I'm a student and have a job, so I don't have much time to work on Wikipedia like you do. If I have any free time, I need to find part-time jobs for my friends to help reduce unemployment. TheGreatPeng ( talk) 20:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
On the one hand, there's cultural promulgation of misogyny in the form of gold digging tropes and mythology; on the other hand, there's an entirely different topic at work, namely the challenges of marriage in modern China and the social roles of men and women. I would like to suggest that the misogynistic narratives be rewritten and toned down so that they are not treated as self-evident, and that the subtopic of the pressures and challenges of marriage in modern China be raised to the dominant narrative instead. Nobody forced Fat Cat to give all of his money to Jane Doe. There needs to be an established discourse of personal responsibility here that rises above blaming others for their decisions. The way the article is currently written pushes the POV that the woman did something wrong. This may in fact be the dominant discourse in China, I don't know, but it should be written from a meta-narrative explaining if this is the case, not asserting Jane Doe is the perp. Viriditas ( talk) 21:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC) Sorry, to track mud into your comment, but I've replaced her name with Jane Doe for privacy, Rjjiii ( talk) 02:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Even international and all Chinese media reported her name, and all language Wikipedias featured her name, why does English Wikipedia hide her name? Your efforts are like water in sand, and now the article has nearly 400k reviewers. Hiding her name at the end of the movie is too late. I respect you, and you may be an incarnation of Guanyin for your mercy. Thank you, Guanyin pusa. _/\_ TheGreatPeng ( talk) 08:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 16 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Suicide of Pangmao. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
@ TheGreatPeng: Hi. I would like to say that the title may be a bit strange for native speakers, and I note that there is little English media coverage of this story yet, but if it is reported perhaps a name change could be considered. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 12:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
A newly registered user said, 'One of the information has been covered by any medium to major news organization.' Really? What a big joke! So, see
When "Fat Cat's Death" Dominates Hot Searches from Lianhe Zaobao, the largest Singaporean Chinese-language newspaper,
there is part 1–7 coverages from China Press, a major Malaysian Chinese-language newspaper,
The "Fat Cat" incident ferments; Chinese public opinion reflects on the bottom line of social morality from Radio Free Asia,
Takeout orders in memory of "Fat Cat" found to be empty or watered down, five catering chain brands apologize from The Paper, a major Chinese digital newspaper,
The Death of Player Fat Cat from Sin Chew Daily, a leading Chinese-language newspaper in Malaysia,
The death of an e-sports boy attracted much attention from netizens: it overshadowed the collapse of Meida Expressway from Deutsche Welle, a major German media,
The tragedy of the fat cat who committed suicide online, is it a relationship issue or a legal issue? from China Digital Times,
The "Fat Cat" incident suddenly became a trending topic on Weibo, and an extramarital affair was revealed from Sound of Hope, an international Chinese-language radio network,
McDonald's Vietnam apologizes for slogan mocking tragic death of Chinese man from VnExpress,
and many more in major media from Southeast Asia, such as [3], [4], [5], [6], [7].
Clearly a case of WP:IDONTLIKE. If you are not happy with these significant coverages, there are many more you can find yourself. Thanks TheGreatPeng ( talk) 13:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
AirshipJungleman29
talk
09:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
TheGreatPeng ( talk) 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC).
Comment: I would suggest having some alternatives. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 15:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per discussion on
WT:DYK
RoySmith
(talk)
14:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I've just redone nearly the whole article to remove the real life names of nonpublic figures, un-sourced BLP content, and copyright violations imported from the Chinese-language Wikipedia article. To the extent that DYK encourages content creation, this is the kind of content that we should not encourage.
Rjjiii (
talk)
02:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. (
closed by non-admin page mover) –
Hilst
[talk]
16:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Suicide of Fat Cat → Suicide of Pangmao – Should use pinyin instead of free translation Coddlebean ( talk) 01:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 05:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
The name of the strait comes from the Ancient Greek Βόσπορος (Bósporos), which was folk-etymologised as βοὸς πόρος, i.e. "cattle strait" (or "Ox-ford" [1] [2]), from the genitive of boûs βοῦς 'ox, cattle' + poros πόρος 'passage', thus meaning 'cattle-passage', or 'cow passage'. [3] This is a reference to the Greek mythological story of Io, who was transformed into a cow and condemned to wander the Earth until she crossed the Bosporus, where she met the Titan Prometheus, who comforted her by telling her that she would be restored to human form by Zeus and become the ancestor of the greatest of all heroes, Heracles (Hercules).
References
Cheating is natural in love and I've experienced it but it shouldn't be punishable by death yes I know he made a mistake we all make mistakes maybe that's why he did it because the girl didn't love him anymore that's why he didn't break up because he knew that maybe Fatcat will be hurt but the girl is wrong, she doesn't have the courage to tell him and why will he be sentenced to death if you are in his position, will you do that? 103.120.69.119 ( talk) 09:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Will somebody please provide a UTC equivalent of the time of death in the lede so that article can account for the differences in time zones? Thanks Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 08:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@ The Account 2: Turns out that the fact the police exonerated the alleged culprit was missing in the article; I have included it. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 08:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
I already explained that earlier version on May 9 was translated from Chinese Wikipedia's May 9 verson . It's not a violation and I already tagged {{ translated}} on the talk page. I'm a student and have a job, so I don't have much time to work on Wikipedia like you do. If I have any free time, I need to find part-time jobs for my friends to help reduce unemployment. TheGreatPeng ( talk) 20:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
On the one hand, there's cultural promulgation of misogyny in the form of gold digging tropes and mythology; on the other hand, there's an entirely different topic at work, namely the challenges of marriage in modern China and the social roles of men and women. I would like to suggest that the misogynistic narratives be rewritten and toned down so that they are not treated as self-evident, and that the subtopic of the pressures and challenges of marriage in modern China be raised to the dominant narrative instead. Nobody forced Fat Cat to give all of his money to Jane Doe. There needs to be an established discourse of personal responsibility here that rises above blaming others for their decisions. The way the article is currently written pushes the POV that the woman did something wrong. This may in fact be the dominant discourse in China, I don't know, but it should be written from a meta-narrative explaining if this is the case, not asserting Jane Doe is the perp. Viriditas ( talk) 21:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC) Sorry, to track mud into your comment, but I've replaced her name with Jane Doe for privacy, Rjjiii ( talk) 02:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Even international and all Chinese media reported her name, and all language Wikipedias featured her name, why does English Wikipedia hide her name? Your efforts are like water in sand, and now the article has nearly 400k reviewers. Hiding her name at the end of the movie is too late. I respect you, and you may be an incarnation of Guanyin for your mercy. Thank you, Guanyin pusa. _/\_ TheGreatPeng ( talk) 08:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)