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--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:37, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Relevance to the article? It just looks like any photo of cappuccino LegalSmeagolian ( talk) 21:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Coffee_in_Seattle would indicate there are literally dozens of notable coffee shops in Seattle. Valereee ( talk) 19:44, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Why am I having to do a full source assessment for 20 BS sources in order to prove a negative? AB didn't do the due diligence. Why do I have to spend hours proving it? Valereee ( talk) 00:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Wolf 2015 | Three short sentences | ✘ No | ||
Glazière 2012 | short mention in a listing | ✘ No | ||
Weise and Johnson 2020 | Listed under WP:NCORP's "brief or passing mentions" as simply being context for a larger story | ✘ No | ||
All Not for Tourists Guide to Seattle | passing mentions only | ✘ No | ||
Thrillist | trade publication; does not count under WP:NCORP | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | |
Lonely Planet | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | ||
Calamusa 2017 | passing mention | ✘ No | ||
Seattle Metropolitan | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | ||
Ausley 2019 | Bare mention. This is the only source used more than once, from which we can possibly assume this source represents the one that provides the most coverage. | ✘ No | ||
All Eater Seattle: Callaghan 2017, Lehmicke 2020, Gujavarty 2011, Vermillion 2011, Hill 2017, Stewart 2022 | regional trade publication, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
Black, Smith, and Polk [2019] | NCORP frowns on listicle coverage, and it's only a paragraph | ✘ No | ||
[Radil and Malcolm] 2022 | local publication, does not count. | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | |
Seattle Post-Intelligencer 2007 | ? Are we counting Seattle P-I as a local source, or a regional one? | ? Unknown | ||
Shah [2019] | school newspaper, does not count (at least, not in any way that could matter). | ✘ No | ||
Guynn 2010 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Lin] 2022 | passing mention | ✘ No | ||
[Long and Roberts] 2020 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Long and Groover] 2021 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Brown] 2022 | non-leading trade publication, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
All My Ballard: [Walker] 2012, [Anthony-Goodwin 2014], [Swedes 2011], [Walker 2021] x2 | local source, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
[Rizzo 2017] | non-leading trade publication, does not count. | small paragraph | ✘ No | |
Garnick 2017 | ? could conceivably count as a solid trade publication | ? inaccessible | ? Unknown | |
All [Lin 2017] | ? Are we counting Seattle Magazine as a local source, or a regional one? | ? Unknown | ||
KOMO-TV 2021 | local source, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
[Werner 2012] | ? Are we counting Seattle Metropolitan as a local publication, or a regional one? | just barely fails the 100-words test, and the actual content doesn't provide a redeeming factor | ✘ No | |
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This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
Valereee ( talk) 00:03, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:37, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Relevance to the article? It just looks like any photo of cappuccino LegalSmeagolian ( talk) 21:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Coffee_in_Seattle would indicate there are literally dozens of notable coffee shops in Seattle. Valereee ( talk) 19:44, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Why am I having to do a full source assessment for 20 BS sources in order to prove a negative? AB didn't do the due diligence. Why do I have to spend hours proving it? Valereee ( talk) 00:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Wolf 2015 | Three short sentences | ✘ No | ||
Glazière 2012 | short mention in a listing | ✘ No | ||
Weise and Johnson 2020 | Listed under WP:NCORP's "brief or passing mentions" as simply being context for a larger story | ✘ No | ||
All Not for Tourists Guide to Seattle | passing mentions only | ✘ No | ||
Thrillist | trade publication; does not count under WP:NCORP | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | |
Lonely Planet | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | ||
Calamusa 2017 | passing mention | ✘ No | ||
Seattle Metropolitan | small paragraph entry | ✘ No | ||
Ausley 2019 | Bare mention. This is the only source used more than once, from which we can possibly assume this source represents the one that provides the most coverage. | ✘ No | ||
All Eater Seattle: Callaghan 2017, Lehmicke 2020, Gujavarty 2011, Vermillion 2011, Hill 2017, Stewart 2022 | regional trade publication, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
Black, Smith, and Polk [2019] | NCORP frowns on listicle coverage, and it's only a paragraph | ✘ No | ||
[Radil and Malcolm] 2022 | local publication, does not count. | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | |
Seattle Post-Intelligencer 2007 | ? Are we counting Seattle P-I as a local source, or a regional one? | ? Unknown | ||
Shah [2019] | school newspaper, does not count (at least, not in any way that could matter). | ✘ No | ||
Guynn 2010 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Lin] 2022 | passing mention | ✘ No | ||
[Long and Roberts] 2020 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Long and Groover] 2021 | NCORP frowns on quoted-as-a-source-in-a-broader-story coverage, no redeeming factors here | ✘ No | ||
[Brown] 2022 | non-leading trade publication, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
All My Ballard: [Walker] 2012, [Anthony-Goodwin 2014], [Swedes 2011], [Walker 2021] x2 | local source, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
[Rizzo 2017] | non-leading trade publication, does not count. | small paragraph | ✘ No | |
Garnick 2017 | ? could conceivably count as a solid trade publication | ? inaccessible | ? Unknown | |
All [Lin 2017] | ? Are we counting Seattle Magazine as a local source, or a regional one? | ? Unknown | ||
KOMO-TV 2021 | local source, does not count. | ✘ No | ||
[Werner 2012] | ? Are we counting Seattle Metropolitan as a local publication, or a regional one? | just barely fails the 100-words test, and the actual content doesn't provide a redeeming factor | ✘ No | |
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This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
Valereee ( talk) 00:03, 7 February 2023 (UTC)