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San Francisco recall comparison

@ Graywalls, could you elaborate on your objection to this edit? Is the issue just the phrase National coverage noted, or also the comparison to other races? My intention with "national coverage" was to refer to the cited sources collectively, and describing Politico, AP, and NYT as national sources doesn't seem like an exceptional claim. I suppose this could be misinterpreted as "wall-to-wall tv news coverage", which is clearly wrong, but I'd appreciate rewording this rather than deleting the whole thing. I'm really not picky on the wording, but I do think this is the primary reason for the subject's notability and should be included.

If you disagree with the comparison to San Francisco I'd ask you to take another look at the sources, which all make this comparison directly. Jamedeus ( talk) 18:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The issue is that it would be asserting importance and emphasizing it based on your own analysis that they were covered in multiple national sources which. If one of the articles said something about "national coverage", that would be reasonable. It was brought here to discuss the wording. You could word it just to say something about comparison to other cities and cite the sources without making additional commentaries not directly supported. Also, the repetition of the same statement across multiple articles should be limited per WP:CFORK Graywalls ( talk) 18:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
How would you suggest introducing this? I'd rather come to an agreement here rather than going back and forth in the revision history. Just saying Comparisons were made ... would be MOS:WEASEL, and Politico, the Associated Press, and the New York Times noted similarities ... is verbose (though maybe the best option). This source could support directly saying is part of a trend, but I worry that would be challenged as WP:UNDUE since it's just 1 source and the others don't use the word trend (though do make comparisons). For the fork concern I think this falls under WP:RELAR. Jamedeus ( talk) 19:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Don't describe sources, but cite what the sources say about trend of west coast city progressive DAs getting replaced. There's no need to say anything like "national coverage" or "international coverage" and like unless the sources specifically make this point. "noted" would be loaded language. Some sources: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/oregon-district-attorney-election-results https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/23/progressive-da-west-coast-00159559 Graywalls ( talk) 19:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Draft talk:Nathan Vasquez)

San Francisco recall comparison

@ Graywalls, could you elaborate on your objection to this edit? Is the issue just the phrase National coverage noted, or also the comparison to other races? My intention with "national coverage" was to refer to the cited sources collectively, and describing Politico, AP, and NYT as national sources doesn't seem like an exceptional claim. I suppose this could be misinterpreted as "wall-to-wall tv news coverage", which is clearly wrong, but I'd appreciate rewording this rather than deleting the whole thing. I'm really not picky on the wording, but I do think this is the primary reason for the subject's notability and should be included.

If you disagree with the comparison to San Francisco I'd ask you to take another look at the sources, which all make this comparison directly. Jamedeus ( talk) 18:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The issue is that it would be asserting importance and emphasizing it based on your own analysis that they were covered in multiple national sources which. If one of the articles said something about "national coverage", that would be reasonable. It was brought here to discuss the wording. You could word it just to say something about comparison to other cities and cite the sources without making additional commentaries not directly supported. Also, the repetition of the same statement across multiple articles should be limited per WP:CFORK Graywalls ( talk) 18:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
How would you suggest introducing this? I'd rather come to an agreement here rather than going back and forth in the revision history. Just saying Comparisons were made ... would be MOS:WEASEL, and Politico, the Associated Press, and the New York Times noted similarities ... is verbose (though maybe the best option). This source could support directly saying is part of a trend, but I worry that would be challenged as WP:UNDUE since it's just 1 source and the others don't use the word trend (though do make comparisons). For the fork concern I think this falls under WP:RELAR. Jamedeus ( talk) 19:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Don't describe sources, but cite what the sources say about trend of west coast city progressive DAs getting replaced. There's no need to say anything like "national coverage" or "international coverage" and like unless the sources specifically make this point. "noted" would be loaded language. Some sources: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/oregon-district-attorney-election-results https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/23/progressive-da-west-coast-00159559 Graywalls ( talk) 19:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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