As for: "Opera": No Other word's apart from Opera were in the song.
I'm as huge a fan of these lists as anyone, but I have a problem with the counting issue, mostly because it's very vague. I was planning on listing the song "Yoohoo" by Imperial Teen, but the problem is that the background singers are almost constantly chanting - "ah, yoohoo, ah, yoohoo" for the entire chorus. Also, the lead singer will also sing "She said yoohoo" on top of the background singers. First of all, do background singers count? Secondly, is the overlaid "yoohoo" one repetition or two? -- A Very Confused DropDeadGorgias
Removing De do do do De da da da (The Police); appears completely only a paltry dozen times. (*sigh!*; and there are't any more "Walking on the Moon"s in Walking on the Moon either ... &). Frank W ~@) R 05:20 Mar 19, 2003 (UTC)
It's been ages since I had a look at this page. Now I realize "Hold Me Tight" is listed as a Beatles song. Well, it isn't. It's a song from one of McCartney's solo LPs. -- KF 22:29, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I've just added 20 Weird Al Yankovic songs after listening to pretty much everything that might qualify (except some from "Poodle Hat"). Just to save any other Weird Al fan some trouble, I've verified that the following do NOT qualify:
Also, "(This Song's Just) Six Words Long" is problematic, since:
Hmmm... I gotta get a life. -- Jeffq 05:33 Mar 08 2004 (UTC)
Although I made my contribution to it, I can't help but feel this list is arbitrary and maybe unencyclopedic. Why twenty times? Why not twenty-five? Fifteen? For that matter, why not make a list songs in the key of B flat major, and another corresponding list every other possible key, and yet another for songs that have no key at all because they don't use the chromatic scale? It seems to me the idea is more about making a list of songs with repetitive lyrics, but such a list is avoided because the repetitiveness of something is subjective, whereas with most of the songs here, we can listen to them and say "Aha! The title occurs more than twenty times!", thus in most cases, whether something belongs on the list or not is a clear yes or no. Nineteen times does not qualify, but just one more and it does. (Actually, it doesn't, because the title of the article says more than twenty times. But who's counting?)
The problem I have with this is that such an arbitrary boundary is inherently artificial. While it makes everything factual and easy to confirm, it also makes it awkward (and gives the article an almost absurdly long title ;)) and even inhibits clarity of purpose. Is the focus on repetition, or on the title? If it's the former, well, certainly often lyrics that are not the title appear often in songs, but this list excludes them. If it's the latter, why? Why does it matter that the title as opposed to something else is repeated a bunch of times?
Well, I think I've got my point across, so I'll shut up for now. ;)
-- Furrykef 15:34, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Does "Alice in Chains" really have a song "Again"? If so, they could join Lenny Kravitz in the list of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles or whatever it's called. Wiwaxia 04:01, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
"I would do everything for love, but I won't do that"? According to [1] IWDEFL occurs at least 30 times, even more with just "Anything for love", somewhat less with "IWDEFL, but I wont do that", so how about it? Surely deserves a mention for its repetitiveness, which I guess is what this list should be about, really.
Does anyone else think the formatting of this article makes the entries unnecessarily and excessively spaced, and its layout could use some condensing? I don't want to change it if I'm alone on this, but it does seem like it could be condensed without losing any information whatsoever. - R. fiend 06:10, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I question this song. I don't think this song should be on the list. First of all I have it on my IPOD, listened to it and counted how many times "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" was said. I only counted nine times. Am I going crazy or am I right? By the way, on the article page it doesn't say how many times "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" was said in the song. -- Rentastrawberry 23:35, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
I notice every time I come to this page, someone's added "Wonderful" by Everclear... but no one's bothered to put in a count for it. I've only heard this song a few times, and I'm not exactly in a place to count it myself (nor do I trust lyrics sites). Anyone want to have a go at it? Kyou
I think synonyms for words that are part of the title that are used on parts of the song instead should be counted (e.g. pony is synonymous with horse). I heard the song "White Horse" by Laid Back which is an old skool funk song, and they transistion from horse to pony lyrically at some point. Should synonyms apply as a count trip? The title would occur 22 times if you included White Pony which is synonymous to horse -- SuperDude 20:58, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Do extended versions of songs count on this list if their titles exceed a count of 20 times in the lyrics while the original length versions were under 20 count of? this does not include the extention of the title in brackets. Here is what I mean, "Burn Rubber" counts 1, however, "Burn Rubber" counts 1 in "Burn Rubber (extended mix)" as well. -- SuperDude 03:37, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Would the name of the song with the brackets phrase excluded count as occurrences of title?
This line has recently been added: "Double titles (like Louie Louie) count as 2 occurrences. And so on." Isn't that contrary to how these have been done? - R. fiend 29 June 2005 17:05 (UTC)
Ditto. Ordinary deletionism is bad enough, but disappointing all those contributors who have made a total of 514 (!) edits to this article is more than I can stomach. You can't be serious. I just can't believe that List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the September 11, 2001 attacks is allowed to survive while this article has to go. Who gives a damn about Clear Channel? What is Clear Channel? <K F> 01:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
As for: "Opera": No Other word's apart from Opera were in the song.
I'm as huge a fan of these lists as anyone, but I have a problem with the counting issue, mostly because it's very vague. I was planning on listing the song "Yoohoo" by Imperial Teen, but the problem is that the background singers are almost constantly chanting - "ah, yoohoo, ah, yoohoo" for the entire chorus. Also, the lead singer will also sing "She said yoohoo" on top of the background singers. First of all, do background singers count? Secondly, is the overlaid "yoohoo" one repetition or two? -- A Very Confused DropDeadGorgias
Removing De do do do De da da da (The Police); appears completely only a paltry dozen times. (*sigh!*; and there are't any more "Walking on the Moon"s in Walking on the Moon either ... &). Frank W ~@) R 05:20 Mar 19, 2003 (UTC)
It's been ages since I had a look at this page. Now I realize "Hold Me Tight" is listed as a Beatles song. Well, it isn't. It's a song from one of McCartney's solo LPs. -- KF 22:29, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I've just added 20 Weird Al Yankovic songs after listening to pretty much everything that might qualify (except some from "Poodle Hat"). Just to save any other Weird Al fan some trouble, I've verified that the following do NOT qualify:
Also, "(This Song's Just) Six Words Long" is problematic, since:
Hmmm... I gotta get a life. -- Jeffq 05:33 Mar 08 2004 (UTC)
Although I made my contribution to it, I can't help but feel this list is arbitrary and maybe unencyclopedic. Why twenty times? Why not twenty-five? Fifteen? For that matter, why not make a list songs in the key of B flat major, and another corresponding list every other possible key, and yet another for songs that have no key at all because they don't use the chromatic scale? It seems to me the idea is more about making a list of songs with repetitive lyrics, but such a list is avoided because the repetitiveness of something is subjective, whereas with most of the songs here, we can listen to them and say "Aha! The title occurs more than twenty times!", thus in most cases, whether something belongs on the list or not is a clear yes or no. Nineteen times does not qualify, but just one more and it does. (Actually, it doesn't, because the title of the article says more than twenty times. But who's counting?)
The problem I have with this is that such an arbitrary boundary is inherently artificial. While it makes everything factual and easy to confirm, it also makes it awkward (and gives the article an almost absurdly long title ;)) and even inhibits clarity of purpose. Is the focus on repetition, or on the title? If it's the former, well, certainly often lyrics that are not the title appear often in songs, but this list excludes them. If it's the latter, why? Why does it matter that the title as opposed to something else is repeated a bunch of times?
Well, I think I've got my point across, so I'll shut up for now. ;)
-- Furrykef 15:34, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Does "Alice in Chains" really have a song "Again"? If so, they could join Lenny Kravitz in the list of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles or whatever it's called. Wiwaxia 04:01, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
"I would do everything for love, but I won't do that"? According to [1] IWDEFL occurs at least 30 times, even more with just "Anything for love", somewhat less with "IWDEFL, but I wont do that", so how about it? Surely deserves a mention for its repetitiveness, which I guess is what this list should be about, really.
Does anyone else think the formatting of this article makes the entries unnecessarily and excessively spaced, and its layout could use some condensing? I don't want to change it if I'm alone on this, but it does seem like it could be condensed without losing any information whatsoever. - R. fiend 06:10, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I question this song. I don't think this song should be on the list. First of all I have it on my IPOD, listened to it and counted how many times "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" was said. I only counted nine times. Am I going crazy or am I right? By the way, on the article page it doesn't say how many times "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" was said in the song. -- Rentastrawberry 23:35, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
I notice every time I come to this page, someone's added "Wonderful" by Everclear... but no one's bothered to put in a count for it. I've only heard this song a few times, and I'm not exactly in a place to count it myself (nor do I trust lyrics sites). Anyone want to have a go at it? Kyou
I think synonyms for words that are part of the title that are used on parts of the song instead should be counted (e.g. pony is synonymous with horse). I heard the song "White Horse" by Laid Back which is an old skool funk song, and they transistion from horse to pony lyrically at some point. Should synonyms apply as a count trip? The title would occur 22 times if you included White Pony which is synonymous to horse -- SuperDude 20:58, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Do extended versions of songs count on this list if their titles exceed a count of 20 times in the lyrics while the original length versions were under 20 count of? this does not include the extention of the title in brackets. Here is what I mean, "Burn Rubber" counts 1, however, "Burn Rubber" counts 1 in "Burn Rubber (extended mix)" as well. -- SuperDude 03:37, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Would the name of the song with the brackets phrase excluded count as occurrences of title?
This line has recently been added: "Double titles (like Louie Louie) count as 2 occurrences. And so on." Isn't that contrary to how these have been done? - R. fiend 29 June 2005 17:05 (UTC)
Ditto. Ordinary deletionism is bad enough, but disappointing all those contributors who have made a total of 514 (!) edits to this article is more than I can stomach. You can't be serious. I just can't believe that List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the September 11, 2001 attacks is allowed to survive while this article has to go. Who gives a damn about Clear Channel? What is Clear Channel? <K F> 01:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)