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I just noticed that a song with the same title was released by Nat "King" Cole just a few months after this story was published. Does anyone know if there was a connection?
https://secondhandsongs.com/work/131879
67.188.1.213 ( talk) 18:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Which came first? The short story or the film? I thought I knew. I said the story came first in my first edit summary, but I might have been wrong on that. If the film came first, the story might not be that notable. But if the story came first, then its being a basis for the famous film would add to its notability.
But more importantly, the article was tagged for "no sources" in March. Then, with no discussion, it was redirected two days later -- which is a bit of a sneaky way to make a defacto summary-deletion. While WP:BRD is a good thing, effectively deleting an article without the slightest discussion is a little too bold I think.
Insufficient evidence of notability is a fair accusation, but it might be possible to remedy. Please allow at least some time (more than two days!) for the "community" to have a chance to see it and to make corrections when possible. 142.105.130.206 ( talk) 04:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It has been over 15 years since this article was created (and stayed unref), how are you going to salvage this article in the next 5 days or so? If you're just going to sit and hope for someone to fix it, I'm going to launch an AfD.
ABG (
Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, you seem to just suddenly appear on this page few days ago, knowing the policy oddly well. Did you edit under a different account or IP? ABG ( Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It "doesn't work that way", man. Actually, it was others who suddenly showed up in March and defacto deleted the article in two days with no allowance for discussion.
- 1) There was no mention at all of poor sourcing until Jlwoodwa on 13 March 2024. It hasn't been "15 years".
- 2) Two days later, the opportunity to examine and correct the problem was then stopped when Boleyne effectively hid the whole article behind a redirect.
- 3) The article remained in that limbo until I stumbled on it a few hours ago (not days).
- I only stumbled on this article because it made no sense that, as it appeared to me, the famous film "Destination Moon" would be redirected to the article on Heinlein. I didn't know the short story existed. I figured out what was going on, and in the process I discovered the actions of March 13th and 15th.
- I undid the 15 March redirection because it looked to be trying to subvert due process -- and, because I wanted to reestablish the opportunity for that process.
- I don't care if you file an AfD. I'm not trying to prevent deletion, just trying to prevent subversion of process. If you do post an AfD, I'll post the facts of the matter (as above) and it will go where it goes. You might very well be right about the notability of the subject. I really don't care, just allow for due process and don't try to f****k with people.
- 142.105.130.206 ( talk) 07:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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I just noticed that a song with the same title was released by Nat "King" Cole just a few months after this story was published. Does anyone know if there was a connection?
https://secondhandsongs.com/work/131879
67.188.1.213 ( talk) 18:44, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Which came first? The short story or the film? I thought I knew. I said the story came first in my first edit summary, but I might have been wrong on that. If the film came first, the story might not be that notable. But if the story came first, then its being a basis for the famous film would add to its notability.
But more importantly, the article was tagged for "no sources" in March. Then, with no discussion, it was redirected two days later -- which is a bit of a sneaky way to make a defacto summary-deletion. While WP:BRD is a good thing, effectively deleting an article without the slightest discussion is a little too bold I think.
Insufficient evidence of notability is a fair accusation, but it might be possible to remedy. Please allow at least some time (more than two days!) for the "community" to have a chance to see it and to make corrections when possible. 142.105.130.206 ( talk) 04:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It has been over 15 years since this article was created (and stayed unref), how are you going to salvage this article in the next 5 days or so? If you're just going to sit and hope for someone to fix it, I'm going to launch an AfD.
ABG (
Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, you seem to just suddenly appear on this page few days ago, knowing the policy oddly well. Did you edit under a different account or IP? ABG ( Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It "doesn't work that way", man. Actually, it was others who suddenly showed up in March and defacto deleted the article in two days with no allowance for discussion.
- 1) There was no mention at all of poor sourcing until Jlwoodwa on 13 March 2024. It hasn't been "15 years".
- 2) Two days later, the opportunity to examine and correct the problem was then stopped when Boleyne effectively hid the whole article behind a redirect.
- 3) The article remained in that limbo until I stumbled on it a few hours ago (not days).
- I only stumbled on this article because it made no sense that, as it appeared to me, the famous film "Destination Moon" would be redirected to the article on Heinlein. I didn't know the short story existed. I figured out what was going on, and in the process I discovered the actions of March 13th and 15th.
- I undid the 15 March redirection because it looked to be trying to subvert due process -- and, because I wanted to reestablish the opportunity for that process.
- I don't care if you file an AfD. I'm not trying to prevent deletion, just trying to prevent subversion of process. If you do post an AfD, I'll post the facts of the matter (as above) and it will go where it goes. You might very well be right about the notability of the subject. I really don't care, just allow for due process and don't try to f****k with people.
- 142.105.130.206 ( talk) 07:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)