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I received a response from Wikimedia foundation's legal counsel a while ago regarding a category naming dispute. The gist of the response was that categorizing living people in this category is only proper and legal if "fully sourced and documented AND not a violation of any other policies." In other words, beside clear libel, showing a disfavour to somebody without support in a standard could get us in trouble. The response did not conclude on the debate in progress. -- GunnarRene 18:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC) GunnarRene 18:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC) reply

I think the current lead is good too: This category contains people whose past or present membership in the Ku Klux Klan has been self-proclaimed or reported by a reliable information source.-- GunnarRene 18:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Disavowal of membership

Following the logic of including any who themselves publicly admit to being a Klan member, shouldn't we distinguish between those who are current members and/or espoused the group's tenets et al up till the time of their death, and those who joined but later themselves strongly and publicly disavowed the group and its tenets and/or activities. Not everyone who was confirmed as a Catholic, for example, should be in a category of Catholics. If one consciously gives up smoking, one is a former smoker, and it would be unreasonable to put that person into a category of smokers. If a gay person chooses to go through conversion therapy and lives a heterosexual life, they would be categorized as such, and both heterosexual and homosexual categorization would be misleading.

I propose a new Category for Klan members who later disavowed the Klan, with those members of this list who have done so moved there and perhaps links to RS disavowals. Abrazame ( talk) 22:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC) reply

I concur. There is a category for individuals who renounced Scientology. (Not that I'm comparing the two, just pointing out there is a precedent). -- T smitts ( talk) 05:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC) reply

No Source For Means being a member of the Klan

I suggest you remove Means from this list, since the claim is unsourced. 2601:243:1180:2689:F84B:E4DA:CE7C:C61A ( talk) 18:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC) reply

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I received a response from Wikimedia foundation's legal counsel a while ago regarding a category naming dispute. The gist of the response was that categorizing living people in this category is only proper and legal if "fully sourced and documented AND not a violation of any other policies." In other words, beside clear libel, showing a disfavour to somebody without support in a standard could get us in trouble. The response did not conclude on the debate in progress. -- GunnarRene 18:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC) GunnarRene 18:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC) reply

I think the current lead is good too: This category contains people whose past or present membership in the Ku Klux Klan has been self-proclaimed or reported by a reliable information source.-- GunnarRene 18:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Disavowal of membership

Following the logic of including any who themselves publicly admit to being a Klan member, shouldn't we distinguish between those who are current members and/or espoused the group's tenets et al up till the time of their death, and those who joined but later themselves strongly and publicly disavowed the group and its tenets and/or activities. Not everyone who was confirmed as a Catholic, for example, should be in a category of Catholics. If one consciously gives up smoking, one is a former smoker, and it would be unreasonable to put that person into a category of smokers. If a gay person chooses to go through conversion therapy and lives a heterosexual life, they would be categorized as such, and both heterosexual and homosexual categorization would be misleading.

I propose a new Category for Klan members who later disavowed the Klan, with those members of this list who have done so moved there and perhaps links to RS disavowals. Abrazame ( talk) 22:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC) reply

I concur. There is a category for individuals who renounced Scientology. (Not that I'm comparing the two, just pointing out there is a precedent). -- T smitts ( talk) 05:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC) reply

No Source For Means being a member of the Klan

I suggest you remove Means from this list, since the claim is unsourced. 2601:243:1180:2689:F84B:E4DA:CE7C:C61A ( talk) 18:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC) reply


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