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There was no category for this yet, I started one that is far from complete. The List of knots has a lot of stuff that should probably be here. — siro χ o 01:16, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)
I could not figure out how to make the following change to the page:
Add "square knot" to the list, and refer people to "reef knot". Many people do not know a square knot is a reef knot.
Andrew
It looks like some knot sub-categorization is starting; this is a good thing. Here are some initial ideas about categorization schemes for more the complex sub-categories. Discussing these first might save some headaches down the line. Feel free to add other sub-categories for consideration. -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Seems like there are three basic classes of loop knots: Fixed, Adjustable, and Running. (others I'm forgetting?) There are several options here, not limited to:
Other ideas? Better/more canonical names for sub-classes? Is one of these ideas more compatible with Wikipedia than the others? -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I)- Loop Knots
1)- Standing Loop Knots A)- Loop Knots Proper B)- Bight Loop Knots C)- Bowline Loop Knots D)- Eye Splices E)- Forked and Splayed Loop Knots F)- Holdbacks G)- Slings I)- Strop and Web Loop Knots
II)- Running Loop Knots
1)- Running Loop Knots Proper 2)- Nooses,Snares,Lariats,Lassos,Hondas,and their ilk 3)- Ties — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justin Mayer ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
These terms are often conflated with one another. Different sources give different definitions of specifically what each means and which may or may not be equivalent to which. Possible regional or international differences may also exist. The structure of the disambiguation/definitions of the articles bearing these names should be mutually compatible with whatever is decided here for categorization purposes. -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I found this category, since one of the knots in the mathematical field Knot theory, the Trefoil knot, belonged to this category instead of to Category:Knot theory. On the other hand, some other "mathematical knots", like the Figure-eight knot (mathematics), belonged only to that category but not to this one.
I'm not sure of the best way to handle this. (After all, the knot theory in some sense started from the concrete knots, and indeed is applicable for them. I guess you could go through some of the articles in this category, and add information on the respective the knot-theoretical invariants, if you wish. However, this doesn't work for knots involving more than a single rope.)
One possibility might be to create a category with the name mathematical loops mathematical knots or something similar, and make this to a subcategory both of this and of that category.-
JoergenB (
talk) 10:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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There was no category for this yet, I started one that is far from complete. The List of knots has a lot of stuff that should probably be here. — siro χ o 01:16, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)
I could not figure out how to make the following change to the page:
Add "square knot" to the list, and refer people to "reef knot". Many people do not know a square knot is a reef knot.
Andrew
It looks like some knot sub-categorization is starting; this is a good thing. Here are some initial ideas about categorization schemes for more the complex sub-categories. Discussing these first might save some headaches down the line. Feel free to add other sub-categories for consideration. -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Seems like there are three basic classes of loop knots: Fixed, Adjustable, and Running. (others I'm forgetting?) There are several options here, not limited to:
Other ideas? Better/more canonical names for sub-classes? Is one of these ideas more compatible with Wikipedia than the others? -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I)- Loop Knots
1)- Standing Loop Knots A)- Loop Knots Proper B)- Bight Loop Knots C)- Bowline Loop Knots D)- Eye Splices E)- Forked and Splayed Loop Knots F)- Holdbacks G)- Slings I)- Strop and Web Loop Knots
II)- Running Loop Knots
1)- Running Loop Knots Proper 2)- Nooses,Snares,Lariats,Lassos,Hondas,and their ilk 3)- Ties — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justin Mayer ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
These terms are often conflated with one another. Different sources give different definitions of specifically what each means and which may or may not be equivalent to which. Possible regional or international differences may also exist. The structure of the disambiguation/definitions of the articles bearing these names should be mutually compatible with whatever is decided here for categorization purposes. -- Dfred 00:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I found this category, since one of the knots in the mathematical field Knot theory, the Trefoil knot, belonged to this category instead of to Category:Knot theory. On the other hand, some other "mathematical knots", like the Figure-eight knot (mathematics), belonged only to that category but not to this one.
I'm not sure of the best way to handle this. (After all, the knot theory in some sense started from the concrete knots, and indeed is applicable for them. I guess you could go through some of the articles in this category, and add information on the respective the knot-theoretical invariants, if you wish. However, this doesn't work for knots involving more than a single rope.)
One possibility might be to create a category with the name mathematical loops mathematical knots or something similar, and make this to a subcategory both of this and of that category.-
JoergenB (
talk) 10:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)