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Who should be listed here?
I've just come across this page, and notice that many of the people listed on it are no longer councillors in County Sligo, and many of the current crop of
local councillors of County Sligo are not listed here. I'm going to see if I can start adding the current councillors to the list, but I don't wish to remove past councillors unless I'm sure that I should. Secondly, if I create articles for the current crop of
Borough of Sligo councillors, should they be included here, or should I create a separate Category for them (i.e.,
Category:Local councillors in Sligo Borough or some such? Any thoughts? --The.Q(t)(c)14:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)reply
The general principle with categories is that unless otherwise specified, they do not distinguish between current and former. Since this category is not divided in this way, it should continue to include former councillors, even if they are dead ... and this category isn't populated anywhere near heavily enough to justify splitting it into current and former councillors. Similarly, there's no need to create a separate sub-cat for the borough councillors, because there aren't enough articles on them.
As to more articles on councillors please do read
WP:BIO, particularly the
basic criteria and the special
exceptions for politicians; the latter stresses that local councillors are not automatically notable, and that notability of a councillor can only be established by evidence that they meet the
primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in
reliable sources that are
independent of the subject." It may be that some of the current Sligo councillors are notable, but most of them seem to me to be lucky to get a very occasional passing mention in the Sligo Champion or the Weekender. To get an idea of how other councillors have been viewed in
AFD debates, see some previous AFDs for local councillors (I noiminated lots of them earlier this year). Those deleted include:
Jimmy Harte,
Jim O'Leary,
Sean Lynch,
Mary Doherty,
John McGinley,
Bobby McKee,
Diana Peacocke and
Roy Wilson. Articles that were kept include
Frank McCoubrey and Daithí Doolan (who was was
initially deleted but restored at a
2nd AFD, because it was felt that notability had by then been established.
Thanks for that, it surely does help. I just wasn't sure about current/former members, but the rest of it I was aware of. I had created an article previously for
Tom MacSharry, which was summarily deleted (correctly, I might add). I wasn't up to speed on
WP:BIO at the time. I'll see what (if anything) i can scare up on any who might fit the criteria in
WP:BIO#Politicians. Thanks again, --The.Q(t)(c)13:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)reply
This category is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
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This category is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Who should be listed here?
I've just come across this page, and notice that many of the people listed on it are no longer councillors in County Sligo, and many of the current crop of
local councillors of County Sligo are not listed here. I'm going to see if I can start adding the current councillors to the list, but I don't wish to remove past councillors unless I'm sure that I should. Secondly, if I create articles for the current crop of
Borough of Sligo councillors, should they be included here, or should I create a separate Category for them (i.e.,
Category:Local councillors in Sligo Borough or some such? Any thoughts? --The.Q(t)(c)14:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)reply
The general principle with categories is that unless otherwise specified, they do not distinguish between current and former. Since this category is not divided in this way, it should continue to include former councillors, even if they are dead ... and this category isn't populated anywhere near heavily enough to justify splitting it into current and former councillors. Similarly, there's no need to create a separate sub-cat for the borough councillors, because there aren't enough articles on them.
As to more articles on councillors please do read
WP:BIO, particularly the
basic criteria and the special
exceptions for politicians; the latter stresses that local councillors are not automatically notable, and that notability of a councillor can only be established by evidence that they meet the
primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in
reliable sources that are
independent of the subject." It may be that some of the current Sligo councillors are notable, but most of them seem to me to be lucky to get a very occasional passing mention in the Sligo Champion or the Weekender. To get an idea of how other councillors have been viewed in
AFD debates, see some previous AFDs for local councillors (I noiminated lots of them earlier this year). Those deleted include:
Jimmy Harte,
Jim O'Leary,
Sean Lynch,
Mary Doherty,
John McGinley,
Bobby McKee,
Diana Peacocke and
Roy Wilson. Articles that were kept include
Frank McCoubrey and Daithí Doolan (who was was
initially deleted but restored at a
2nd AFD, because it was felt that notability had by then been established.
Thanks for that, it surely does help. I just wasn't sure about current/former members, but the rest of it I was aware of. I had created an article previously for
Tom MacSharry, which was summarily deleted (correctly, I might add). I wasn't up to speed on
WP:BIO at the time. I'll see what (if anything) i can scare up on any who might fit the criteria in
WP:BIO#Politicians. Thanks again, --The.Q(t)(c)13:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)reply