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I'm not sure this category needs to exist; it would seem to overlap with "First Nations governments in BC" to me; a full listing of ALL reserves, occupied and unoccupied, is pretty useless. There's another spillover in that the communities aren't the same thing as the governments of these reserves; so separate articles are needed for the community, which is what the reserve articles could be for; I guess, that is. Not sure. Point is that "reserves" in the context as listed here seems to point to actual communities, as opposed to just any plot of surveyed land with blue-and-white fenceposts and a different coloration on the map and all the stuff that goes with that; and I'd go with "First Nations communities in BC" because sometimes there are communities which AREN'T on-reserve. For any First Nations/Native American group, there's a potential/necessary four way split in terms of separate articles needed: ethnicity/tribe/nation, government/organization, language/culture and community/reserve/reservation/agency. Skookum1 22:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
"First Nations reserve" is a neologism, and also is POV, and also "Indian Reserve" is the properly official name of all such places, and also used by the bands themselves in correspondence. I've already changed List of Indian Reserves in Canada for the same reason; this is a category so will nned to go to CFD. The use of "First Nations" as an adjecitve in place of "Indigenous", "aboriginal" and/or "Indian" is consciously POV/p.c. in nature and also awkward sounding; there is no such place as a "First Nations reserve". There are First Nations, First Nations governments, and First Nations people (the last being a decidedly POV neologism as well). Time to end the charade, and teh many awkward wordings overuse of the p.c.-ism incurs.... Skookum1 ( talk) 19:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I just fixed a few things on Gingolx, British Columbia and noted the presence of this category, which is now utterly inappropriate and has been since the Nisga'a Treaty of 2000, when Nisga'a reserves were turned over to fee-simple lands under tribal governance; THEY ARE NOT RESERVES. This includes Greenville and other existing settlements, and also applies to former Indian Reserves which are now "sites" under control of the Nisga'a government (and all of which have been renamed with Nisga'a names). Gingolx had been Kincolith Indian Reserve Nos. 14 and 14A; now its official listing is "Community" ( "Gingolx (Community)". BC Geographical Names.). I'm not sure if similar quasi-municipal arrangements are part of the Maa-nulth Treaty (awaiting ratification) but they definitely are re Sechelt lands - those reserves are now Indian Government Districts and explicitly NOT reserves. NB it will not be appropriate to have whatever category is created for these to be a subcategory of Indian Reserves category. But "something must be done"....this category has been loosey-goosey in terms of what "reserve" is taken to mean and how it's been applied (e.g. on town articles which contain Indian communities but which are not exclusively FN in character/content) and on the idea that all reserves are inhabited (in BC only a few of the total are). There's no quick fix for this, just serving notice that on articles like Gingolx and Greenville, this category has to go. For now I'm leaving it for lack of another category to move them to, however.... Skookum1 ( talk) 14:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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I'm not sure this category needs to exist; it would seem to overlap with "First Nations governments in BC" to me; a full listing of ALL reserves, occupied and unoccupied, is pretty useless. There's another spillover in that the communities aren't the same thing as the governments of these reserves; so separate articles are needed for the community, which is what the reserve articles could be for; I guess, that is. Not sure. Point is that "reserves" in the context as listed here seems to point to actual communities, as opposed to just any plot of surveyed land with blue-and-white fenceposts and a different coloration on the map and all the stuff that goes with that; and I'd go with "First Nations communities in BC" because sometimes there are communities which AREN'T on-reserve. For any First Nations/Native American group, there's a potential/necessary four way split in terms of separate articles needed: ethnicity/tribe/nation, government/organization, language/culture and community/reserve/reservation/agency. Skookum1 22:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
"First Nations reserve" is a neologism, and also is POV, and also "Indian Reserve" is the properly official name of all such places, and also used by the bands themselves in correspondence. I've already changed List of Indian Reserves in Canada for the same reason; this is a category so will nned to go to CFD. The use of "First Nations" as an adjecitve in place of "Indigenous", "aboriginal" and/or "Indian" is consciously POV/p.c. in nature and also awkward sounding; there is no such place as a "First Nations reserve". There are First Nations, First Nations governments, and First Nations people (the last being a decidedly POV neologism as well). Time to end the charade, and teh many awkward wordings overuse of the p.c.-ism incurs.... Skookum1 ( talk) 19:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I just fixed a few things on Gingolx, British Columbia and noted the presence of this category, which is now utterly inappropriate and has been since the Nisga'a Treaty of 2000, when Nisga'a reserves were turned over to fee-simple lands under tribal governance; THEY ARE NOT RESERVES. This includes Greenville and other existing settlements, and also applies to former Indian Reserves which are now "sites" under control of the Nisga'a government (and all of which have been renamed with Nisga'a names). Gingolx had been Kincolith Indian Reserve Nos. 14 and 14A; now its official listing is "Community" ( "Gingolx (Community)". BC Geographical Names.). I'm not sure if similar quasi-municipal arrangements are part of the Maa-nulth Treaty (awaiting ratification) but they definitely are re Sechelt lands - those reserves are now Indian Government Districts and explicitly NOT reserves. NB it will not be appropriate to have whatever category is created for these to be a subcategory of Indian Reserves category. But "something must be done"....this category has been loosey-goosey in terms of what "reserve" is taken to mean and how it's been applied (e.g. on town articles which contain Indian communities but which are not exclusively FN in character/content) and on the idea that all reserves are inhabited (in BC only a few of the total are). There's no quick fix for this, just serving notice that on articles like Gingolx and Greenville, this category has to go. For now I'm leaving it for lack of another category to move them to, however.... Skookum1 ( talk) 14:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)