Tournament details | |
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Country | ![]() |
Teams | 64 |
Final positions | |
Champions | SG Dynamo Dresden |
Runner-up | Berliner FC Dynamo |
Tournament statistics | |
Matches played | 77 |
Goals scored | 264 (3.43 per match) |
The 1984â85 FDGB-Pokal was the 34th East German Cup. For the second consecutive year, Dynamo Dresden beat BFC Dynamo in the final, securing their sixth title.
Home team | Away team | Result |
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BSG Schiffahrt/Hafen Rostock | FC Carl Zeiss Jena II** | 1:2 |
1. FC Union Berlin | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1:1 aet, 3:5 pens. |
TSG Ruhla* | BSG Motor Suhl | 2:1 aet |
BSG Chemie Premnitz* | F.C. Hansa Rostock | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Fritz Heckert Karl-Marx-Stadt* | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 0:2 aet |
BSG Mansfeldkombinat Sangerhausen** | FC Karl-Marx-Stadt | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen II** | BFC Dynamo | 1:6 |
BSG Robotron Sömmerda | 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | 0:6 |
TSG Elsterwerda** | BSG Stahl Brandenburg | 0:1 |
TSG Gröditz* | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:5 |
BSG Stahl Thale* | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:1 |
BSG Aktivist Kali Werra Tiefenort | BSG Stahl Riesa | 1:1 aet, 2:4 pens. |
BSG Motor Weimar* | Dynamo Dresden | 1:3 |
BSG Lokomotive/Armaturen Prenzlau* | FC Carl Zeiss Jena | 1:3 aet |
BSG Post Neubrandenburg | BSG Wismut Aue | 0:1 |
ASG VorwÀrts Hagenow** | 1. FC Magdeburg II** | 2:3 |
SG Dynamo Schwerin | BFC Dynamo II** | 0:1 |
TSG Bau Rostock | ASG VorwÀrts Dessau | 0:1 |
BSG Einheit Wernigerode* | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 2:3 aet |
BSG Motor Babelsberg | BSG Chemie Böhlen | 0:3 |
BSG Chemie Buna Schkopau | BSG Aufbau Krumhermersdorf | 5:0 |
TSG Chemie Markkleeberg | BSG Rotation Berlin* | 1:0 |
BSG GlĂŒckauf Sondershausen | BSG Chemie Wolfen | 7:1 |
Dynamo Dresden II** | Hallescher FC Chemie | 2:1 |
BSG Empor Tabak Dresden | BSG Chemie Velten** | 2:4 |
BSG Aktivist Schwarze Pumpe | SG Dynamo Eisleben | 2:0 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | BSG Aktivist Brieske-Senftenberg | 4:1 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock II** | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt II** | 5:0 |
BSG Chemie PCK Schwedt* | FSV Lokomotive Dresden* | 0:4 |
BSG Fortschritt Bischofswerda | Stahl EisenhĂŒttenstadt | 6:2 |
BSG Fortschritt Weida* | Energie Cottbus | 2:1 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen | SG Dynamo FĂŒrstenwalde | 2:0 |
Home team | Away team | Result |
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BSG Chemie Böhlen | BFC Dynamo | 0:2 |
BSG Fortschritt Bischofswerda | BSG Stahl Riesa | 0:6 |
TSG Chemie Markkleeberg | 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | 0:2 |
BSG Chemie Velten | FC Carl Zeiss Jena | 1:0 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | FC Karl-Marx-Stadt | 3:1 |
TSG Ruhla | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:1 |
ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | BSG Stahl Brandenburg | 2:0 |
BSG Aktivist Schwarze Pumpe | 1. FC Magdeburg | 2:3 aet |
FSV Lokomotive Dresden | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1:3 |
BSG Chemie Buna Schkopau | Dynamo Dresden | 2:4 aet |
BSG GlĂŒckauf Sondershausen | F.C. Hansa Rostock | 1:6 |
ASG VorwÀrts Dessau | BSG Wismut Aue | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 0:2 |
Dynamo Dresden II | FC Carl Zeiss Jena II | 5:1 |
BSG Fortschritt Weida | 1. FC Magdeburg II | 1:2 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock II | BFC Dynamo II | 2:4 |
(3 November and 21â22 December 1984)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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BSG Wismut Aue | BFC Dynamo | 3:1 | 0:2 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:1 | 0:1 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock | Dynamo Dresden | 2:2 | 1:1 |
1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 3:1 | 0:3 |
BSG Stahl Riesa | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 0:0 | 0:1 |
BSG Chemie Velten | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 2:2 | 1:3 |
Dynamo Dresden II | BFC Dynamo II | 1:2 | 2:2 |
1. FC Magdeburg II | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 1:3 | 0:2 |
(20 and 27 February 1985)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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Dynamo Dresden | BFC Dynamo II | 1:2 | 2:1 aet, 5:3 pens. |
BFC Dynamo | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 7:0 | 1:0 |
BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:1 | 1:4 |
FC Rot-Weià Erfurt | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 3:1 | 0:3 |
(23 March and 1 May 1985)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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Dynamo Dresden | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:2 | 2:0 aet, 4:2 pens. |
BFC Dynamo | 1. FC Magdeburg | 3:4 | 2:0 |
SG Dynamo Dresden | 3 – 2 | Berliner FC Dynamo |
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Döschner ![]() StĂŒbner ![]() Minge ![]() |
Thom ![]() Ernst ![]() |
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The standard of refereeing in East German football had become a bone of contention in the upper levels of the SED and the East German regime, and the cup final was played at a time when the disillusionment about the successes of BFC Dynamo stood at its peak. [2] [3] [4]
The German Football Association of the GDR (DFV) and the football weekly Die neue FuĂballwoche received more than 700 complaints regarding the performance of the referees in the final. [4] Harry Tisch was so upset about the performance of referee Manfred RoĂner that he protested to Erich Mielke and complained that such performance undermined the credibility of the competition. [2] [5] With DFV functionaries, as well as Egon Krenz and other SED politicians, uneasy about the negative reactions, a special review of the final was conducted. [3] [6]
An eight-person panel led by DFV President GĂŒnter Erbach examined the video recording of the cup final on 21 June 1985. The panel concluded that 30 percent of the referee decisions were wrong, and that 80 percent of those had been of disadvantage to Dynamo Dresden. The referees had made 17 major mistakes during the final, of which 14 had been in favor of BFC Dynamo and 3 in favor of Dynamo Dresden. Of the 10 most egregious mistakes, 9 went against Dynamo Dresden. As an example, a regular goal from Ralf Minge was denied due to an alleged offside position. Referee Manfred RoĂner was banned one year from officiating matches above second tier and assistant Klaus Scheurell was de-selected for the next round of the European cup. The cup final was the last match before retirement for assistant Widukind Herrmann. [4] [7] [8] [9] [6] [2] [5] [3] [10]
Manfred RoĂner conceded that he performed poorly during the final, but insisted that this was unintentional and unrepresentative of his "impressive record". Nothing emerged that indicated that Manfred RoĂner had been bought by the Stasi. [nb 1] On the contrary, Manfred RoĂner claims that he was approached by the DFV Deputy General Secretary Volker Nickchen before the match, who confidentially requested "no BFC-friendly decisions". He was also approached by the incensed DFV Vice President Franz Rydz after the match, who took him to office for his performance with the words: "You can't always go by the book, but have to officiate in a way that placates the Dresden public". [4]
Manfred RoĂner has continuously denied that he intentionally whistled against SG Dynamo Dresden in the cup final. In the book "Dynamo Dresden â a legend turns 50" ( German: Dynamo Dresden â eine Legende wird 50) from SĂ€chsische Zeitung, he said: "I can hardly look myself in the eyes when I analyze the game. But if I had intentionally whistled incorrectly, I would be half a criminal. That's not me." [9]
Tournament details | |
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Country | ![]() |
Teams | 64 |
Final positions | |
Champions | SG Dynamo Dresden |
Runner-up | Berliner FC Dynamo |
Tournament statistics | |
Matches played | 77 |
Goals scored | 264 (3.43 per match) |
The 1984â85 FDGB-Pokal was the 34th East German Cup. For the second consecutive year, Dynamo Dresden beat BFC Dynamo in the final, securing their sixth title.
Home team | Away team | Result |
---|---|---|
BSG Schiffahrt/Hafen Rostock | FC Carl Zeiss Jena II** | 1:2 |
1. FC Union Berlin | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1:1 aet, 3:5 pens. |
TSG Ruhla* | BSG Motor Suhl | 2:1 aet |
BSG Chemie Premnitz* | F.C. Hansa Rostock | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Fritz Heckert Karl-Marx-Stadt* | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 0:2 aet |
BSG Mansfeldkombinat Sangerhausen** | FC Karl-Marx-Stadt | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen II** | BFC Dynamo | 1:6 |
BSG Robotron Sömmerda | 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | 0:6 |
TSG Elsterwerda** | BSG Stahl Brandenburg | 0:1 |
TSG Gröditz* | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:5 |
BSG Stahl Thale* | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:1 |
BSG Aktivist Kali Werra Tiefenort | BSG Stahl Riesa | 1:1 aet, 2:4 pens. |
BSG Motor Weimar* | Dynamo Dresden | 1:3 |
BSG Lokomotive/Armaturen Prenzlau* | FC Carl Zeiss Jena | 1:3 aet |
BSG Post Neubrandenburg | BSG Wismut Aue | 0:1 |
ASG VorwÀrts Hagenow** | 1. FC Magdeburg II** | 2:3 |
SG Dynamo Schwerin | BFC Dynamo II** | 0:1 |
TSG Bau Rostock | ASG VorwÀrts Dessau | 0:1 |
BSG Einheit Wernigerode* | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 2:3 aet |
BSG Motor Babelsberg | BSG Chemie Böhlen | 0:3 |
BSG Chemie Buna Schkopau | BSG Aufbau Krumhermersdorf | 5:0 |
TSG Chemie Markkleeberg | BSG Rotation Berlin* | 1:0 |
BSG GlĂŒckauf Sondershausen | BSG Chemie Wolfen | 7:1 |
Dynamo Dresden II** | Hallescher FC Chemie | 2:1 |
BSG Empor Tabak Dresden | BSG Chemie Velten** | 2:4 |
BSG Aktivist Schwarze Pumpe | SG Dynamo Eisleben | 2:0 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | BSG Aktivist Brieske-Senftenberg | 4:1 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock II** | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt II** | 5:0 |
BSG Chemie PCK Schwedt* | FSV Lokomotive Dresden* | 0:4 |
BSG Fortschritt Bischofswerda | Stahl EisenhĂŒttenstadt | 6:2 |
BSG Fortschritt Weida* | Energie Cottbus | 2:1 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen | SG Dynamo FĂŒrstenwalde | 2:0 |
Home team | Away team | Result |
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BSG Chemie Böhlen | BFC Dynamo | 0:2 |
BSG Fortschritt Bischofswerda | BSG Stahl Riesa | 0:6 |
TSG Chemie Markkleeberg | 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | 0:2 |
BSG Chemie Velten | FC Carl Zeiss Jena | 1:0 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | FC Karl-Marx-Stadt | 3:1 |
TSG Ruhla | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:1 |
ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | BSG Stahl Brandenburg | 2:0 |
BSG Aktivist Schwarze Pumpe | 1. FC Magdeburg | 2:3 aet |
FSV Lokomotive Dresden | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1:3 |
BSG Chemie Buna Schkopau | Dynamo Dresden | 2:4 aet |
BSG GlĂŒckauf Sondershausen | F.C. Hansa Rostock | 1:6 |
ASG VorwÀrts Dessau | BSG Wismut Aue | 0:2 |
BSG Motor Nordhausen | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 0:2 |
Dynamo Dresden II | FC Carl Zeiss Jena II | 5:1 |
BSG Fortschritt Weida | 1. FC Magdeburg II | 1:2 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock II | BFC Dynamo II | 2:4 |
(3 November and 21â22 December 1984)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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BSG Wismut Aue | BFC Dynamo | 3:1 | 0:2 |
BSG Sachsenring Zwickau | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:1 | 0:1 |
F.C. Hansa Rostock | Dynamo Dresden | 2:2 | 1:1 |
1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 3:1 | 0:3 |
BSG Stahl Riesa | BSG Chemie Leipzig | 0:0 | 0:1 |
BSG Chemie Velten | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 2:2 | 1:3 |
Dynamo Dresden II | BFC Dynamo II | 1:2 | 2:2 |
1. FC Magdeburg II | FC Rot-WeiĂ Erfurt | 1:3 | 0:2 |
(20 and 27 February 1985)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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Dynamo Dresden | BFC Dynamo II | 1:2 | 2:1 aet, 5:3 pens. |
BFC Dynamo | ASG VorwÀrts Stralsund | 7:0 | 1:0 |
BSG Chemie Leipzig | 1. FC Magdeburg | 1:1 | 1:4 |
FC Rot-Weià Erfurt | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 3:1 | 0:3 |
(23 March and 1 May 1985)
Home team (1st leg) | Away team (1st leg) | 1st leg | 2nd leg |
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Dynamo Dresden | FC VorwÀrts Frankfurt | 0:2 | 2:0 aet, 4:2 pens. |
BFC Dynamo | 1. FC Magdeburg | 3:4 | 2:0 |
SG Dynamo Dresden | 3 – 2 | Berliner FC Dynamo |
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Döschner ![]() StĂŒbner ![]() Minge ![]() |
Thom ![]() Ernst ![]() |
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The standard of refereeing in East German football had become a bone of contention in the upper levels of the SED and the East German regime, and the cup final was played at a time when the disillusionment about the successes of BFC Dynamo stood at its peak. [2] [3] [4]
The German Football Association of the GDR (DFV) and the football weekly Die neue FuĂballwoche received more than 700 complaints regarding the performance of the referees in the final. [4] Harry Tisch was so upset about the performance of referee Manfred RoĂner that he protested to Erich Mielke and complained that such performance undermined the credibility of the competition. [2] [5] With DFV functionaries, as well as Egon Krenz and other SED politicians, uneasy about the negative reactions, a special review of the final was conducted. [3] [6]
An eight-person panel led by DFV President GĂŒnter Erbach examined the video recording of the cup final on 21 June 1985. The panel concluded that 30 percent of the referee decisions were wrong, and that 80 percent of those had been of disadvantage to Dynamo Dresden. The referees had made 17 major mistakes during the final, of which 14 had been in favor of BFC Dynamo and 3 in favor of Dynamo Dresden. Of the 10 most egregious mistakes, 9 went against Dynamo Dresden. As an example, a regular goal from Ralf Minge was denied due to an alleged offside position. Referee Manfred RoĂner was banned one year from officiating matches above second tier and assistant Klaus Scheurell was de-selected for the next round of the European cup. The cup final was the last match before retirement for assistant Widukind Herrmann. [4] [7] [8] [9] [6] [2] [5] [3] [10]
Manfred RoĂner conceded that he performed poorly during the final, but insisted that this was unintentional and unrepresentative of his "impressive record". Nothing emerged that indicated that Manfred RoĂner had been bought by the Stasi. [nb 1] On the contrary, Manfred RoĂner claims that he was approached by the DFV Deputy General Secretary Volker Nickchen before the match, who confidentially requested "no BFC-friendly decisions". He was also approached by the incensed DFV Vice President Franz Rydz after the match, who took him to office for his performance with the words: "You can't always go by the book, but have to officiate in a way that placates the Dresden public". [4]
Manfred RoĂner has continuously denied that he intentionally whistled against SG Dynamo Dresden in the cup final. In the book "Dynamo Dresden â a legend turns 50" ( German: Dynamo Dresden â eine Legende wird 50) from SĂ€chsische Zeitung, he said: "I can hardly look myself in the eyes when I analyze the game. But if I had intentionally whistled incorrectly, I would be half a criminal. That's not me." [9]