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Nominator's rationale: This is a strange intersection. For one thing, I don't think any empire was ever truly democratic throughout its history. For instance, the
French colonial empire (the only current entry in the category) began somewhere in the 16th-century, at a time when France was clearly not a democracy. It could further be argued that most empires ruled their colonies in non-democratic fashion.
Pichpich (
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Delete per nom,
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and
WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Not just the "democratic" part (which in the French case wouldn't have applied to the great majority of the colonised, nor to the female colonisers in terms of suffrage), but also the "empire" part is questionable. See my recent CfR about
Category:Muslim empires, which was renamed
Category:Former Islamic monarchies. Although "Empire" is a fine term to be used in article titles if it's the
WP:COMMONNAME, it's a bad option for categorising, because it is so subjective, both in a positive and negative sense.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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Delete, "democratic" can only refer to a period within a country's history, not to countries as a whole. The
Czech Republic has been democratic throughout its existance (as one of very few countries) but even then there is no guarantee that it will remain democratic forever.
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Category:Works by Natalie Holt
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Nominator's rationale: The contents of the subcategories are articles about the films/tv shows and not the scores themselves, which would be the works by Natalie Holt. I've cross-linked the subcategories so navigation between the two still exists. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose This is not how the category tree about works by creator functions. For filmmakers, works means the films which they directed, the films which they scripted, and films where they composede the music. Music works themselves do not necessarily need their own article.
Dimadick (
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Oppose per Dimadick. This category follows well-established conventions.
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Category:Louisiana Outlaws players
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one player category, regardless of any name change/merge.
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Category:Sport by country and year
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Nominator's rationale:Merge and redirect, manually adding sort keys. This was originally "Years in sport by country" and was renamed as part of a
batch nomination in 2019, which presumably overlooked that there was a similarly-named category already. An alternative might be renaming to
Category:Sports by sport, country and year but I don't expect that to catch on. –
FayenaticLondon 14:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Good point about the sort keys too.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge in some fashion. No preference for the target name, but these are clearly overlapping. -
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Category:Saurcos Fukui players
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one player category, regardless of any name change/merge.
GiantSnowman 20:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan F.C. managers
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one manager category, regardless of any name change/merge.
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Category:People by language family of descent
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Support per nom. Note there is a long list of nominated subcategories when you click on nominator's link!
Marcocapelle (
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Support. Language family is not defining here.
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Hoaxes
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, only 1-3 articles in each of these categories. While the categories are often parented to a culture or cultural history category and a historical events category, most articles do not belong there directly.
Marcocapelle (
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Support Hoaxes often have no geographical limitations, they can be spread online, by television, through books which are exported abroad, etc. so "by country" is probably not defining.
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Nominator's rationale: This is a strange intersection. For one thing, I don't think any empire was ever truly democratic throughout its history. For instance, the
French colonial empire (the only current entry in the category) began somewhere in the 16th-century, at a time when France was clearly not a democracy. It could further be argued that most empires ruled their colonies in non-democratic fashion.
Pichpich (
talk) 19:53, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom,
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and
WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Not just the "democratic" part (which in the French case wouldn't have applied to the great majority of the colonised, nor to the female colonisers in terms of suffrage), but also the "empire" part is questionable. See my recent CfR about
Category:Muslim empires, which was renamed
Category:Former Islamic monarchies. Although "Empire" is a fine term to be used in article titles if it's the
WP:COMMONNAME, it's a bad option for categorising, because it is so subjective, both in a positive and negative sense.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
talk) 22:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, "democratic" can only refer to a period within a country's history, not to countries as a whole. The
Czech Republic has been democratic throughout its existance (as one of very few countries) but even then there is no guarantee that it will remain democratic forever.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Works by Natalie Holt
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Nominator's rationale: The contents of the subcategories are articles about the films/tv shows and not the scores themselves, which would be the works by Natalie Holt. I've cross-linked the subcategories so navigation between the two still exists. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose This is not how the category tree about works by creator functions. For filmmakers, works means the films which they directed, the films which they scripted, and films where they composede the music. Music works themselves do not necessarily need their own article.
Dimadick (
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Oppose per Dimadick. This category follows well-established conventions.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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Category:Louisiana Outlaws players
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one player category, regardless of any name change/merge.
GiantSnowman 20:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Sport by country and year
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Nominator's rationale:Merge and redirect, manually adding sort keys. This was originally "Years in sport by country" and was renamed as part of a
batch nomination in 2019, which presumably overlooked that there was a similarly-named category already. An alternative might be renaming to
Category:Sports by sport, country and year but I don't expect that to catch on. –
FayenaticLondon 14:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Good point about the sort keys too.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge in some fashion. No preference for the target name, but these are clearly overlapping. -
RevelationDirect (
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Category:Saurcos Fukui players
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one player category, regardless of any name change/merge.
GiantSnowman 20:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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GiantSnowman 20:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge - we have one parent article, and therefore should have one manager category, regardless of any name change/merge.
GiantSnowman 20:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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Support per nom. Note there is a long list of nominated subcategories when you click on nominator's link!
Marcocapelle (
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Support. Language family is not defining here.
Place Clichy (
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
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Marcocapelle (
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Support Hoaxes often have no geographical limitations, they can be spread online, by television, through books which are exported abroad, etc. so "by country" is probably not defining.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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