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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Laurence Galian
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I am struggling to figure out how this subject passes WP:GNG. He doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR nor WP:NMUSICIAN and I have went through WP:BEFORE and can't find any significant coverage outside of passing mentions or event announcements (that includes via my newspapers.com subscription).
Thank you for assuming good faith in this nomination. Missvain ( talk) 03:04, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- His books are partly self-published, partly by very small niche publishers of occult stuff, and of his two musical products, one is a self-released cassette tape, the other, according to the sources, is "an early home recording made by a man identified as Laurence Galian while he was living in Jericho, NY. While I can't find anything linking him directly to the tape, I strongly suspect that this is the Laurence Galian behind Shaman's Ascent." I'd say he definitely fails notability as a musician (I have great respect for ballet accompanists, but they're not notable), and with near-certainty as an author, but he just might be a notable general purveyor of general occult stuff/producer of inordinate numbers of podcasts, for which we have no guidelines. I have no interest in this sort of stuff and would go with delete, but that might be my personal bias. I can't see that he's any more notable than any number of similar individuals producing spiritual thoughts on sites like YouTube. Elemimele ( talk) 15:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete does not mean WP:BIO or other notability guidelines for people. LibStar ( talk) 22:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Laurence Galian
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I am struggling to figure out how this subject passes WP:GNG. He doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR nor WP:NMUSICIAN and I have went through WP:BEFORE and can't find any significant coverage outside of passing mentions or event announcements (that includes via my newspapers.com subscription).
Thank you for assuming good faith in this nomination. Missvain ( talk) 03:04, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Missvain ( talk) 03:04, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Missvain ( talk) 03:04, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- His books are partly self-published, partly by very small niche publishers of occult stuff, and of his two musical products, one is a self-released cassette tape, the other, according to the sources, is "an early home recording made by a man identified as Laurence Galian while he was living in Jericho, NY. While I can't find anything linking him directly to the tape, I strongly suspect that this is the Laurence Galian behind Shaman's Ascent." I'd say he definitely fails notability as a musician (I have great respect for ballet accompanists, but they're not notable), and with near-certainty as an author, but he just might be a notable general purveyor of general occult stuff/producer of inordinate numbers of podcasts, for which we have no guidelines. I have no interest in this sort of stuff and would go with delete, but that might be my personal bias. I can't see that he's any more notable than any number of similar individuals producing spiritual thoughts on sites like YouTube. Elemimele ( talk) 15:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 11:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete does not mean WP:BIO or other notability guidelines for people. LibStar ( talk) 22:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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