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So, Lambo Boy has come back to start crapping on about how the templates still don't fit his vision of them. Given a little peeking at his contribs I do reckon now we do have a multiple user account on our hands and as we know, it's a no-no and a blockable offense. So, we have one person with an interest in public transportation systems in and around Washington, one with an interest in cartoons. Both use the account and there's usually a few days lull inbetween the uses switching. Except for a few irregularities where the switch happens within hours and on occasions minutes its usually a case of buses, buses, buses, lull then TV, TV, TV, lull and the circle of life is complete. The fact one knows how to sign whereas the other patently doesn't know or doesn't want to sign is sending off five alarm warnings for me, it's either two people or a split personality case. Any idea what to do? It's almost as if whatever we've told him he's ignored and is proceeding as if he is still right in a sorta truthiness way. I'm not going to respond to his "idea" over at WT:TOON, it isn't worth my effort doing so because I really dislike repeating myself but it's possible this one has forgotten. treelo radda 04:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
(merp) How many times can I get edit conflicts? Right, I was going to give some good faith to your explanation right upto your last edit where you just took it away with the same aggressive tone you gave to Eugene Krabs yesterday. The problem here is you, it's always you and even though you seem to think you know how things are now it doesn't seem that way as its the same old shit just in a different place. This time you decided to do it for another list once again dealing with co-prods and once again in a nice display of being bold then saying "fuck that, I'm right" (or rather "FUCK THAT, IM RIGHT!!" as caps make your point more correct) upon being reverted in a small scale editwar. If you are consistently finding others aren't happy when it comes to your "fixing" things, the problem isn't everyone else. There does need to be a touch of cleanup on the article but you're not the guy to do it, leave a note on the talkpage if you get reverted about it but don't try and reassert your changes and move onto something less contentious. Read up on WP:BRD because you keep skipping the D part and cycle through B and R repeatedly when it comes to things like this. As for the accounts, not one person ever said you operated multiple accounts so I guess I came from yourself. What I said was that there's more than one person using the account and I'm yet to see any reason to figure otherwise and no, your saying there's only one person won't convince me. treelo radda 14:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
(undent) To start with, I would like to reinforce the WP:BRD issue. The changes you've been making are controversial and have been reverted by three different people. I'm not necessarily interested in apologies, that's for you to discuss with Eugene. Disagreements are inevitable. How people deal with those disagreements is a good barometer. And I'm generally not a stickler for process of this nature. But so far, we're going in circles. What sources can you provide for the information which is in dispute? Wikipedia itself (in any language variant), wikias, and the pretty much any user-editable database is not considered reliable by the very nature of being user-editable. The article talk pages are usually a good place to start when you're considering making significant changes, and it is better to talk on article pages rather than user pages, so at least it can be peer-reviewed by any interested parties. Here is a good (recent) example of I how I see the whole thing coming together. I'll throw you some good faith, but we need an exhibition of your intentions, and so far, the Eugene Crabs interaction does not really fill me confidence. If you are serious in your claims, then again, we'll start at the beginning: use the talk page, bring forth something that we all can agree on. If your having a hard time with the reliable sources issue, there are a number of examples. If something is still unclear, then use the [Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]] and get an outside opinion. Yngvarr (t) (c) 16:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you deal with Ben 10? I don't as you know, action series seem to attract bigger lunkheads than EEnE do and just dealing with the Transformers: Animated char list split annoyed the crap out of me. From what I see there's nobody who knows the difference between cruft and content to an acute enough degree to be able to tell the rest to stop adding the shit in, only the hardcore douches like yourself give a fuck. So, because of this I'd like to turn your attention to convincing the circlejerkers there to split the godawful rat king we call
List of characters in Ben 10 (or rather
List of Ben 10 characters because some fuck moved it against our own MOS) into more manageable chunks. I know, wrong venue but I figure here is good enough as most conversation will occur on the talkpage so no point drifting it out to
WT:TOON. It's the single biggest issue for the Ben 10 archipelago as it requires some clipping and a spinout because of the length at a fairly hefty... wait... 114 kilobytes. That is more than both
Ben 10 and
Ben 10: Alien Force put together.
Problem is simple, a huge article with too much dross and that which is worth a damn needs splitting off so one list doesn't have to cover the whole Ben 10 Mythos. I'd suggest because of the way the series go to split out core characters to their own articles should content be found (sourcing is much heavier a demand on standalone articles so extra legwork will be needed, episodic references aren't any good) and split the rest down to heroes and villains or by series should enough content remain. Above all, make sure the title convention is adhered to and none of this
List of Ben 10 villains or
Ben Tennyson (Ben 10) bullcrap.
treelo
radda
01:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for
fixing my mistake on ten's talk. Actually, what I intended was {{user|ZombieCow}}
, producing
ZombieCow (
talk ·
contribs); I just put a : instead of a |. Just FYI, really, and thx.
Chzz
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I left him a level 4 vandalism warning on his talk page. That Mime Trio garbage is so overt that we don't have to go through the steps. If he does it again, report him for vandalism after level 4 warning. Thanks for keeping the faith. 69.236.142.21 ( talk) 03:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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Just went for a browse on
Talk:Ed, Edd n Eddy to see if that godforsaken episode had managed to find a source and finally silenced the kids who type in all caps AS THEN THEIR POINT IS MORE RIGHT!!!!1! even if their grammar and spelling remains sub 5th grade. No, if anything it's inflamed them, made them even more prone to hitting caps lock with their chubby pinkies and still doing the circlejerk. It's pathetic in that it doesn't matter if the episode is mentioned, it doesn't matter if it exists to the point you're willing to argue apoplectically just so you get the right to say "nah nah, I'm right and you're wroo-ong" and it really doesn't matter when it becomes so ludicrously petty and whiny you'd rather delete the articles and tell them to fuck off elsewhere if they want teh dramaz.
When it has gotten to the point when very few people besides entrenched article owners and fanboi anons want to maintain, something needs to give and why not reduce it back to one article, basic bios for characters and no episode list? It's for the good of the article, not its editors or what few it has left. I'm not saying cut them loose as it's not worth the mind-numbing kiddiefights but in a way that's exactly what I'm saying.
treelo
radda
12:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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[1] I didn't know there was a nocoins tag. treelo radda 20:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the article as part of the GA sweeps process. The article needs some work to meet WP:GAC so has been delisted. You can find details of issues that need addressing at Talk:Treasure Island/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
If you're going to say an article creator might be a known hoaxer then wouldn't it follow to at least create a cursory SPI case so you can find out? OK, so the account is too stale to be of any use but it's worth a shot I feel if you're willing to say it is a sock. Your other accounts (including one recent one) are:
Happy hunting. treelo radda 12:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
None of the other films have refernces. Also, Smurfs Movie has it's own page, and other references can be found on Jonny Quest, Yogi Bear, Tom and Jerry and The Jetsons articles.-- Snowman Guy ( talk) 05:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
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OK, it's the least fun thing to deal with but Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show now has an article (apparently badly translated from another wiki or seemingly a forum) and lemme tell ya, it's a pain to read through. Basically following on from other undeserved spinouts for feature length episodes, this needs either redirecting, given a non-fanboi oriented rewrite or plain deleted. Given that though, seems we have work on our hands, I didn't notice this before but over in the fetid cage of KND, every single link on their episode list goes out to the Wikia-based KND wiki. It's been that way ever since 2007 (thank this froot loop for doing it) and it's not really kosher given Wikia's low bar for any form of notability assesment and how each link looks as if it'll keep you on the same server as the list. We need to enlist TTN to try and clear up some of the mess with the feature length episode articles with no notability or sourcing, he does a decent job and is very much anti-cruft and seemingly anti-douchebag fanboi too. So, see what you can do about it, there's a lot to redirect and judiciously smerge. treelo radda 23:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Gonna let it sit for a day or two, and ponder yet another AFD. I'm not willing to do an outright redirect, and I figure an AFD (even given the presumed outcome) will at least allow more "airtime" on this morass. It's not gonna go away, and IMO the only way to get something to "stick" is to show consensus. Yngvarr (t) (c) 21:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
(merp) FYI chucklebutt, when making an AfD regarding something that now exists but use previous AfDs as some form of corroboration for deletion though they don't have relevance directly to the current AfD, don't mention why or link to them if the reason for their deletion doesn't apply to this one. Sometimes people don't read AfD reasons over two sentences long, they drift over and only catch that it hasn't been released and non-notable even though it does say hadn't and also makes issue of the lack of sourcing. Be short, be specific, be succinct. I expect that it might very well be protected after this, it'll be the fifth time. Also, go bug Tenpy some more, we only got one day out of him before he mooched off to protect his twangy noise stuff. treelo radda 08:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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So, Lambo Boy has come back to start crapping on about how the templates still don't fit his vision of them. Given a little peeking at his contribs I do reckon now we do have a multiple user account on our hands and as we know, it's a no-no and a blockable offense. So, we have one person with an interest in public transportation systems in and around Washington, one with an interest in cartoons. Both use the account and there's usually a few days lull inbetween the uses switching. Except for a few irregularities where the switch happens within hours and on occasions minutes its usually a case of buses, buses, buses, lull then TV, TV, TV, lull and the circle of life is complete. The fact one knows how to sign whereas the other patently doesn't know or doesn't want to sign is sending off five alarm warnings for me, it's either two people or a split personality case. Any idea what to do? It's almost as if whatever we've told him he's ignored and is proceeding as if he is still right in a sorta truthiness way. I'm not going to respond to his "idea" over at WT:TOON, it isn't worth my effort doing so because I really dislike repeating myself but it's possible this one has forgotten. treelo radda 04:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
(merp) How many times can I get edit conflicts? Right, I was going to give some good faith to your explanation right upto your last edit where you just took it away with the same aggressive tone you gave to Eugene Krabs yesterday. The problem here is you, it's always you and even though you seem to think you know how things are now it doesn't seem that way as its the same old shit just in a different place. This time you decided to do it for another list once again dealing with co-prods and once again in a nice display of being bold then saying "fuck that, I'm right" (or rather "FUCK THAT, IM RIGHT!!" as caps make your point more correct) upon being reverted in a small scale editwar. If you are consistently finding others aren't happy when it comes to your "fixing" things, the problem isn't everyone else. There does need to be a touch of cleanup on the article but you're not the guy to do it, leave a note on the talkpage if you get reverted about it but don't try and reassert your changes and move onto something less contentious. Read up on WP:BRD because you keep skipping the D part and cycle through B and R repeatedly when it comes to things like this. As for the accounts, not one person ever said you operated multiple accounts so I guess I came from yourself. What I said was that there's more than one person using the account and I'm yet to see any reason to figure otherwise and no, your saying there's only one person won't convince me. treelo radda 14:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
(undent) To start with, I would like to reinforce the WP:BRD issue. The changes you've been making are controversial and have been reverted by three different people. I'm not necessarily interested in apologies, that's for you to discuss with Eugene. Disagreements are inevitable. How people deal with those disagreements is a good barometer. And I'm generally not a stickler for process of this nature. But so far, we're going in circles. What sources can you provide for the information which is in dispute? Wikipedia itself (in any language variant), wikias, and the pretty much any user-editable database is not considered reliable by the very nature of being user-editable. The article talk pages are usually a good place to start when you're considering making significant changes, and it is better to talk on article pages rather than user pages, so at least it can be peer-reviewed by any interested parties. Here is a good (recent) example of I how I see the whole thing coming together. I'll throw you some good faith, but we need an exhibition of your intentions, and so far, the Eugene Crabs interaction does not really fill me confidence. If you are serious in your claims, then again, we'll start at the beginning: use the talk page, bring forth something that we all can agree on. If your having a hard time with the reliable sources issue, there are a number of examples. If something is still unclear, then use the [Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]] and get an outside opinion. Yngvarr (t) (c) 16:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you deal with Ben 10? I don't as you know, action series seem to attract bigger lunkheads than EEnE do and just dealing with the Transformers: Animated char list split annoyed the crap out of me. From what I see there's nobody who knows the difference between cruft and content to an acute enough degree to be able to tell the rest to stop adding the shit in, only the hardcore douches like yourself give a fuck. So, because of this I'd like to turn your attention to convincing the circlejerkers there to split the godawful rat king we call
List of characters in Ben 10 (or rather
List of Ben 10 characters because some fuck moved it against our own MOS) into more manageable chunks. I know, wrong venue but I figure here is good enough as most conversation will occur on the talkpage so no point drifting it out to
WT:TOON. It's the single biggest issue for the Ben 10 archipelago as it requires some clipping and a spinout because of the length at a fairly hefty... wait... 114 kilobytes. That is more than both
Ben 10 and
Ben 10: Alien Force put together.
Problem is simple, a huge article with too much dross and that which is worth a damn needs splitting off so one list doesn't have to cover the whole Ben 10 Mythos. I'd suggest because of the way the series go to split out core characters to their own articles should content be found (sourcing is much heavier a demand on standalone articles so extra legwork will be needed, episodic references aren't any good) and split the rest down to heroes and villains or by series should enough content remain. Above all, make sure the title convention is adhered to and none of this
List of Ben 10 villains or
Ben Tennyson (Ben 10) bullcrap.
treelo
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Thanks for
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, producing
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contribs); I just put a : instead of a |. Just FYI, really, and thx.
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I left him a level 4 vandalism warning on his talk page. That Mime Trio garbage is so overt that we don't have to go through the steps. If he does it again, report him for vandalism after level 4 warning. Thanks for keeping the faith. 69.236.142.21 ( talk) 03:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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Just went for a browse on
Talk:Ed, Edd n Eddy to see if that godforsaken episode had managed to find a source and finally silenced the kids who type in all caps AS THEN THEIR POINT IS MORE RIGHT!!!!1! even if their grammar and spelling remains sub 5th grade. No, if anything it's inflamed them, made them even more prone to hitting caps lock with their chubby pinkies and still doing the circlejerk. It's pathetic in that it doesn't matter if the episode is mentioned, it doesn't matter if it exists to the point you're willing to argue apoplectically just so you get the right to say "nah nah, I'm right and you're wroo-ong" and it really doesn't matter when it becomes so ludicrously petty and whiny you'd rather delete the articles and tell them to fuck off elsewhere if they want teh dramaz.
When it has gotten to the point when very few people besides entrenched article owners and fanboi anons want to maintain, something needs to give and why not reduce it back to one article, basic bios for characters and no episode list? It's for the good of the article, not its editors or what few it has left. I'm not saying cut them loose as it's not worth the mind-numbing kiddiefights but in a way that's exactly what I'm saying.
treelo
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12:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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[1] I didn't know there was a nocoins tag. treelo radda 20:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of the article as part of the GA sweeps process. The article needs some work to meet WP:GAC so has been delisted. You can find details of issues that need addressing at Talk:Treasure Island/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
If you're going to say an article creator might be a known hoaxer then wouldn't it follow to at least create a cursory SPI case so you can find out? OK, so the account is too stale to be of any use but it's worth a shot I feel if you're willing to say it is a sock. Your other accounts (including one recent one) are:
Happy hunting. treelo radda 12:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
None of the other films have refernces. Also, Smurfs Movie has it's own page, and other references can be found on Jonny Quest, Yogi Bear, Tom and Jerry and The Jetsons articles.-- Snowman Guy ( talk) 05:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
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OK, it's the least fun thing to deal with but Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show now has an article (apparently badly translated from another wiki or seemingly a forum) and lemme tell ya, it's a pain to read through. Basically following on from other undeserved spinouts for feature length episodes, this needs either redirecting, given a non-fanboi oriented rewrite or plain deleted. Given that though, seems we have work on our hands, I didn't notice this before but over in the fetid cage of KND, every single link on their episode list goes out to the Wikia-based KND wiki. It's been that way ever since 2007 (thank this froot loop for doing it) and it's not really kosher given Wikia's low bar for any form of notability assesment and how each link looks as if it'll keep you on the same server as the list. We need to enlist TTN to try and clear up some of the mess with the feature length episode articles with no notability or sourcing, he does a decent job and is very much anti-cruft and seemingly anti-douchebag fanboi too. So, see what you can do about it, there's a lot to redirect and judiciously smerge. treelo radda 23:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Gonna let it sit for a day or two, and ponder yet another AFD. I'm not willing to do an outright redirect, and I figure an AFD (even given the presumed outcome) will at least allow more "airtime" on this morass. It's not gonna go away, and IMO the only way to get something to "stick" is to show consensus. Yngvarr (t) (c) 21:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
(merp) FYI chucklebutt, when making an AfD regarding something that now exists but use previous AfDs as some form of corroboration for deletion though they don't have relevance directly to the current AfD, don't mention why or link to them if the reason for their deletion doesn't apply to this one. Sometimes people don't read AfD reasons over two sentences long, they drift over and only catch that it hasn't been released and non-notable even though it does say hadn't and also makes issue of the lack of sourcing. Be short, be specific, be succinct. I expect that it might very well be protected after this, it'll be the fifth time. Also, go bug Tenpy some more, we only got one day out of him before he mooched off to protect his twangy noise stuff. treelo radda 08:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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