I answered your question regarding my Candidate statement. I also made comments you my be interested in @ Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2005/Straw_poll#No_more_appointees. Cheers, Sam Spade 22:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I think your action against Keetoowah is outside your authority and exceeds the recommendations of the arbitration committee. I mean, 60 days, that’s a bit harsh especially considering your apparent personal relationship with LuLu. I hope you reconsider. TDC 22:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you reverting this page several times to remove a particular disputed paragraph, could I ask you to join the discussion on the talk page Talk:Phoenix Park please?
Thanks,
Demiurge 23:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
As if in subconscious rebellion for the excellent advice I gave, I suffered a relapse at Wikipedia:Deletion policy yesterday. 0_ο
I know it's difficult, but really try to just do nothing. Think of it as a Zen version of extreme sports, where they shove
wasabi up your nose and you have to sit perfectly still and smile.
brenneman
(t)
(c)
23:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
In my opinion This edit in which you describe Pigsonthewing's conduct as bullying, violates the personal attack injunction placed on you by the arbitration committee for the duration of the case, as does this in which you characterize his conduct as trolling. I don't think a block is yet merited in your case, but I am warning you not to engage in this kind of characterization again. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 05:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
If you can think of a better word to describe Leonig Mig having to have a secret account due to his constant harrassment other than "bullying", please let me know, Tony. karmafist 14:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I'm not sure how much I can help, but I'll do what I can. Jokermage Timor Mentum Occidit 19:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello,
Karmafist!
Just wanna say everyhthing been fine for the past few days. Looks like it's shaping to be My first successful week on this site. I haven't heard from You, though. How have You been? --
Eddie
21:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a way to view currently online Administrators? You're the only Administrator I know at the moment, so if you're not here when I see a spammer, I don't know what to do. Any suggestions? I searched for a relevant manual page on Wikipedia, but I failed to see anything. Meepster 00:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
To answer your question, I removed my previous entry on your talk page for cleanliness. I figured you didn't want a moot entry.
Thank you for being so helpful and responsive!
Meepster 00:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's up with this edit...it reads to me that you're implying that you added the section on Tim Tolkien to Pigsonthewing's Talk page to help him save time, which is not supported by the edit history, so I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. However, your comment "awaiting impending "desist personal attack" comment" was, in my opinion, sarcastic, provocative, and out of line. As such, per the temporary injuction in the Arbitration case between you and Pigsonthewing, I am blocking you for 24 hours for violation of your personal attack parole. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix Burn! 03:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I guess that explains the tens of thousands of edits before I met him, huh CBD? karmafist 13:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't mess up, and I still don't think I had a choice(Potw had gone on with this for years now, and nothing had even slowed him down before, apparently) but you're right, I'm going to back away from the edge. Listening and respecting others, like you, is the only thing separating me from Andy right now, and I have to hold on to that as hard as I can here. karmafist 17:00, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Not a problem. I wish I could too, but he would need to listen first, and I just don't think that's his style considering the line of people who seem to have issues with him in one sort of another (me, LockeCole, LeonigMig, Nick Boulevard, Linuxbeak, Phroziac, Scottfisher, Evilphoenix, Bishonen, etc.) seems to extend around the block. I'm sure one way or another, things will be settled, i'm just glad the rfar is concluded so I don't have to feel like it's my problem anymore. karmafist 19:06, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the project is still live, but before/if you nominate it for deletion could you let me no so that the Wikipediology project will have time to preserve some of the materials for users who can't see deleted items and provide a historical perspective. Also, since you haven't figured out where to put permanently put your Political Perspectives of Wikipedians project, IW would be happy to host your project. Thanks. - JCarriker 03:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Karmafist,
First, you're not going to quit Wikipedia because of Pigsonthewing. If you do, I'll be annoyed at you. So stop saying you will, because an annoyed Nandesuka is not something you want to have to see.
Secondly, just sit out the block and then stop picking at the scab. Engage in right thought, right speech, and right action, and satisfy yourself that things will turn out OK. Turning a molehill of a 24 hour block into a mountain of a tearful farewell is just what would make certain people happy. Take a deep breath, have a beer or a cup of coffee (I recommend decaf) or whatever your favorite drink is, and relax. OK? Nandesuka 14:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Karmafist. I hear you're under a bit of stress. Come on IRC and have a chat with me. We don't want to lose you! [[Sam Korn]] 22:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't give in to the trolls. They want you to leave, but your friends and all real Wikipedians want you to stay. Take some time to relax and clear your mind. Then, when you come back, you can put all the controversy behind you. -- Tantalum T e lluride 23:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you, Karmafist, for bringing the fist of your karma down in support of my RfA - I was going to tell you all about how I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream, but instead, I'm going to talk about Chewbacca. Why would a Wookie, an eight-foot tall Wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does NOT MAKE SENSE! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this RfA? Nothing. Karmafist, it has nothing to do with this RfA! It does NOT MAKE SENSE! Look at me. I'm a lawyer thanking people for passing an RfA, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Karmafist, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! BD2412 T 02:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC) <--note new "admin gold" sig :-D
Just what the heck do you think you're doing by thinking about leaving Wikipedia? I strongly recommend you pick some random articles and just do some regular ole editing for awhile. Stay away from the stressful situations and don't try to be super admin. We are all but human you know and if you leave entirely it will be the lose of us all. Some users are just worthless and have no interest in writing an encyclopedia or comtributing in a constructive manner, so don't let trolls like that win. Pick a project of interest to you and deal with that instead for awhile, or add balance to you life by simply stepping back from Wikipedia some. Whatever I can do to help, let me know...and if you prefer, I have email. Cheer up and look at all the good you've done!-- MONGO 03:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Karmafist/Archive7,
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. It has done very well and is currently at 67/0/2. As such, I am posting this in advance of its closure. If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know. Thank you once again! – NSLE ( T+ C+ CVU) 06:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)Oh dear oh dear... you missed a few things, most importantly that new stub types are proposed before creation, and we've been busy deleting general stub templates for individual states where there is no state-specific wikiproject! You really should propose these things first at WP:WSS/P! As for red-linked categories, all you need to do is follow the link and create the category. They don't automatically get created when a template is created. See the instructions at Wikipedia:Stub. Grutness... wha? 23:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't scare us again like that! Or I shall have to beat you with a cluestick. :P Hehehe... it's good to hear you're ok, though. Tito xd( ?!? - did you read this?) 04:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
ahoy there,
i can't believe this, you actually gave me a barnstar wow I am so touched (and surprised), thanks alot. don't let trolls or disputes get you down, I know how it feels like and it can be very frustrating, but don't let it drive you away. thanks alot again, if you ever need anything feel free to contact me as well obviously :-) cheers mate Gryffindor 08:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar. =) And yeah, I was under the impression ArbCom cases closed 24 hours after they got enough votes to close. So either this is the longest 24 hours in history, or it's all a lie. :P Anyways, take heart, it's over now, and maybe some of the remedies will help him. — Locke Cole 09:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! It's nice to see you perky again. [[Sam Korn]] 12:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Man, you've gone deeper into the wikipedia workings that I ever did ... stubs and templates and all that is just the kind of software debate that what made me flee the copy desk and return to reporting! I don't really understand what the debate is about, and I'm afraid I'm too lazy to figure it out. I voted keep because you know what you're talking about, but if somebody demands justification for my vote, I will run and hide. - DavidWBrooks 14:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
The arbitration commitee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing case. Raul654 18:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
See my response to your Object, Thanks. Scifiintel 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
karmafist:
Just wanted to drop you a note to say thanks for supporting me in my recent RFA. As you may have seen, my RFA succeeded and I am now an admin. My table creation powers are beyond compare now, thanks to the s33kr1t admin table editing tools. Moohahaha and all that.
All the best.
→
Ξxtreme Unction {
yakł
blah}
20:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
I answered your question regarding my Candidate statement. I also made comments you my be interested in @ Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2005/Straw_poll#No_more_appointees. Cheers, Sam Spade 22:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I think your action against Keetoowah is outside your authority and exceeds the recommendations of the arbitration committee. I mean, 60 days, that’s a bit harsh especially considering your apparent personal relationship with LuLu. I hope you reconsider. TDC 22:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you reverting this page several times to remove a particular disputed paragraph, could I ask you to join the discussion on the talk page Talk:Phoenix Park please?
Thanks,
Demiurge 23:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
As if in subconscious rebellion for the excellent advice I gave, I suffered a relapse at Wikipedia:Deletion policy yesterday. 0_ο
I know it's difficult, but really try to just do nothing. Think of it as a Zen version of extreme sports, where they shove
wasabi up your nose and you have to sit perfectly still and smile.
brenneman
(t)
(c)
23:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
In my opinion This edit in which you describe Pigsonthewing's conduct as bullying, violates the personal attack injunction placed on you by the arbitration committee for the duration of the case, as does this in which you characterize his conduct as trolling. I don't think a block is yet merited in your case, but I am warning you not to engage in this kind of characterization again. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 05:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
If you can think of a better word to describe Leonig Mig having to have a secret account due to his constant harrassment other than "bullying", please let me know, Tony. karmafist 14:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I'm not sure how much I can help, but I'll do what I can. Jokermage Timor Mentum Occidit 19:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello,
Karmafist!
Just wanna say everyhthing been fine for the past few days. Looks like it's shaping to be My first successful week on this site. I haven't heard from You, though. How have You been? --
Eddie
21:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a way to view currently online Administrators? You're the only Administrator I know at the moment, so if you're not here when I see a spammer, I don't know what to do. Any suggestions? I searched for a relevant manual page on Wikipedia, but I failed to see anything. Meepster 00:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
To answer your question, I removed my previous entry on your talk page for cleanliness. I figured you didn't want a moot entry.
Thank you for being so helpful and responsive!
Meepster 00:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's up with this edit...it reads to me that you're implying that you added the section on Tim Tolkien to Pigsonthewing's Talk page to help him save time, which is not supported by the edit history, so I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. However, your comment "awaiting impending "desist personal attack" comment" was, in my opinion, sarcastic, provocative, and out of line. As such, per the temporary injuction in the Arbitration case between you and Pigsonthewing, I am blocking you for 24 hours for violation of your personal attack parole. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix Burn! 03:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I guess that explains the tens of thousands of edits before I met him, huh CBD? karmafist 13:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I didn't mess up, and I still don't think I had a choice(Potw had gone on with this for years now, and nothing had even slowed him down before, apparently) but you're right, I'm going to back away from the edge. Listening and respecting others, like you, is the only thing separating me from Andy right now, and I have to hold on to that as hard as I can here. karmafist 17:00, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Not a problem. I wish I could too, but he would need to listen first, and I just don't think that's his style considering the line of people who seem to have issues with him in one sort of another (me, LockeCole, LeonigMig, Nick Boulevard, Linuxbeak, Phroziac, Scottfisher, Evilphoenix, Bishonen, etc.) seems to extend around the block. I'm sure one way or another, things will be settled, i'm just glad the rfar is concluded so I don't have to feel like it's my problem anymore. karmafist 19:06, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the project is still live, but before/if you nominate it for deletion could you let me no so that the Wikipediology project will have time to preserve some of the materials for users who can't see deleted items and provide a historical perspective. Also, since you haven't figured out where to put permanently put your Political Perspectives of Wikipedians project, IW would be happy to host your project. Thanks. - JCarriker 03:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Karmafist,
First, you're not going to quit Wikipedia because of Pigsonthewing. If you do, I'll be annoyed at you. So stop saying you will, because an annoyed Nandesuka is not something you want to have to see.
Secondly, just sit out the block and then stop picking at the scab. Engage in right thought, right speech, and right action, and satisfy yourself that things will turn out OK. Turning a molehill of a 24 hour block into a mountain of a tearful farewell is just what would make certain people happy. Take a deep breath, have a beer or a cup of coffee (I recommend decaf) or whatever your favorite drink is, and relax. OK? Nandesuka 14:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Karmafist. I hear you're under a bit of stress. Come on IRC and have a chat with me. We don't want to lose you! [[Sam Korn]] 22:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't give in to the trolls. They want you to leave, but your friends and all real Wikipedians want you to stay. Take some time to relax and clear your mind. Then, when you come back, you can put all the controversy behind you. -- Tantalum T e lluride 23:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you, Karmafist, for bringing the fist of your karma down in support of my RfA - I was going to tell you all about how I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream, but instead, I'm going to talk about Chewbacca. Why would a Wookie, an eight-foot tall Wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does NOT MAKE SENSE! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this RfA? Nothing. Karmafist, it has nothing to do with this RfA! It does NOT MAKE SENSE! Look at me. I'm a lawyer thanking people for passing an RfA, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Karmafist, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! BD2412 T 02:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC) <--note new "admin gold" sig :-D
Just what the heck do you think you're doing by thinking about leaving Wikipedia? I strongly recommend you pick some random articles and just do some regular ole editing for awhile. Stay away from the stressful situations and don't try to be super admin. We are all but human you know and if you leave entirely it will be the lose of us all. Some users are just worthless and have no interest in writing an encyclopedia or comtributing in a constructive manner, so don't let trolls like that win. Pick a project of interest to you and deal with that instead for awhile, or add balance to you life by simply stepping back from Wikipedia some. Whatever I can do to help, let me know...and if you prefer, I have email. Cheer up and look at all the good you've done!-- MONGO 03:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Karmafist/Archive7,
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. It has done very well and is currently at 67/0/2. As such, I am posting this in advance of its closure. If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know. Thank you once again! – NSLE ( T+ C+ CVU) 06:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)Oh dear oh dear... you missed a few things, most importantly that new stub types are proposed before creation, and we've been busy deleting general stub templates for individual states where there is no state-specific wikiproject! You really should propose these things first at WP:WSS/P! As for red-linked categories, all you need to do is follow the link and create the category. They don't automatically get created when a template is created. See the instructions at Wikipedia:Stub. Grutness... wha? 23:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't scare us again like that! Or I shall have to beat you with a cluestick. :P Hehehe... it's good to hear you're ok, though. Tito xd( ?!? - did you read this?) 04:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
ahoy there,
i can't believe this, you actually gave me a barnstar wow I am so touched (and surprised), thanks alot. don't let trolls or disputes get you down, I know how it feels like and it can be very frustrating, but don't let it drive you away. thanks alot again, if you ever need anything feel free to contact me as well obviously :-) cheers mate Gryffindor 08:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar. =) And yeah, I was under the impression ArbCom cases closed 24 hours after they got enough votes to close. So either this is the longest 24 hours in history, or it's all a lie. :P Anyways, take heart, it's over now, and maybe some of the remedies will help him. — Locke Cole 09:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! It's nice to see you perky again. [[Sam Korn]] 12:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Man, you've gone deeper into the wikipedia workings that I ever did ... stubs and templates and all that is just the kind of software debate that what made me flee the copy desk and return to reporting! I don't really understand what the debate is about, and I'm afraid I'm too lazy to figure it out. I voted keep because you know what you're talking about, but if somebody demands justification for my vote, I will run and hide. - DavidWBrooks 14:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
The arbitration commitee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing case. Raul654 18:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
See my response to your Object, Thanks. Scifiintel 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
karmafist:
Just wanted to drop you a note to say thanks for supporting me in my recent RFA. As you may have seen, my RFA succeeded and I am now an admin. My table creation powers are beyond compare now, thanks to the s33kr1t admin table editing tools. Moohahaha and all that.
All the best.
→
Ξxtreme Unction {
yakł
blah}
20:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)