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If we're going to redesign it, can we change it to CSS instead of tables for layout at the same time? - Quiddity 22:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Should I add the other Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Submanuals that aren't listed here yet? -- Quiddity 04:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
How about Wikipedia:Summary style? - jc37 11:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
And I have now added Infoboxes Frelke 12:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Record charts be added? This list keeps getting longer... what if we start to merge some pages (e.g. Wikipedia:Record charts with Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music))? It's not really a problem belonging to this specific template, which is just a result of the underlying problem of too many guidelines on too many pages... it makes it hard to find certain information. - Rocket000 19:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Yet another one: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (diagrams and maps). Should i just add it? -- Jokes Free4Me ( talk) 16:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_94#Overhaul_of_the_so-called_Style_Template. Tony (talk) 04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I've moved all the "ThisCountry-related articles" to a COMMON sub-section. I think it doesn't matter that some of them are policies and other guides, because there is no clash for any country, i.e. there is no policy about France and guide about France. Furthermore, I propose splitting them to a completely different template. I think that some more over-specific links should join, like Chemistry, Math, etc. Let's leave only very general and very basic stuff here. Comments? -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 18:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) link be in the "Related to specific cultures" section? It is very out of place where it is now. I am going to be bold and move it down the template, but feel free to revert me. Plasticup T/ C 22:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Although numbers is included in the list, it's not immediately obvious (being listed under "D" for "Dates and numbers"). For something so basic, I think it ought to have its own entry and have been bold and made it so. Bazza ( talk) 14:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
This template is really long. Can we get some "hide/show" sections, so that pages that are primarily connected to a single aspect could display a shorter list? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 17:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to have subsections appear on the list, once a main page is highlighted. For example Wikipedia:Words to avoid has its own entry, Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words is in the articles 'See also' section and seems closely related. it would make sense to me if once you were on 'words to avoid', that the navbox then displayed the pages that are related so one would get:
I'm sure I've seen this done in other templates, but not sure how easy it is. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 11:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to Eubulides for removing the excess white space in the template. Tony (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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It has the {{ style-guideline}} warning. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 04:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
User:Gnevin/sandbox6. Thoughts ? Gnevin ( talk) 17:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why WP:MOSFILM is not included in the template? Almogo ( talk) 16:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Change the text in the button from 'Search the MoS' to 'Search the Manual'. Just to avoid the acronym. cheers -- Boy.pockets ( talk) 10:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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I have a picture of Dave Keon. How do I insert it.
Midager (
talk) 09:33, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion in MOS Talk page regarding ways to improve searching/indexing for the many Manual Of Style (MOS) pages in WP. It seems to me that this template Template:Style could be vastly improved: in addition to pointing the reader to the MOS categories (which this template already does) it could also list all the important of the MOS-related articles. The key goal is to help readers quickly find MOS-related articles, and help them save time so they dont have to visit the categories, etc. Putting the important MOS articles directly in the NavBox will help readers quickly and directly find the info they need. I'm willing to improve the template in that manner, but I welcome comments. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is a draft of a proposed improvement: Template talk:Style/draft A: -- Noleander ( talk) 21:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
If the size is the major objection, a compromise would be to have a Show/Hide choice next to each section, as is shown in "draft B": Template talk:Style/draft B (shown at right). That way the navbox would initially be small (as it currently is) but users could expand by clicking the Show button. And the Navbox would then be consistent with the other WP navboxes, by listing articles/pages. -- Noleander ( talk) 01:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
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Not seeing any additional feedback, I've moved "draft B" into the public template. More feedback and ideas are always useful. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
An aspect of this navbox that may confuse some users is when a section, such as "Music", (which has a Category) also has a dedicated "Music" page. When a user clicks on the "Music" section link, where should the user be vectored: to the MOS Music category? or to the MOS-Music page? -- Noleander ( talk) 18:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) has a long list of country-specific issues regarding names. Most of these are too short to warrant their own pages, but should nevertheless be included within WP:MOS in one way or another. I have taken the bull by the horns and added them to the Regional section of this list. I trust that this is in order. Martinvl ( talk) 09:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
can we move this to template:Manual of Style? I have been cleaning up transclusions in article space for several hours today. most of them are from {} typos like this one, but some are from confusion with maintenance tags. Frietjes ( talk) 17:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What should I do if I want to expand more than one section? Corphine ( talk) 07:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. EdJohnston ( talk) 22:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Template:Style → ? – "Style" alone too general.
Sardanaphalus (
talk) 09:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Manual of style should probably be removed as it is not part of the MOS. 207.161.86.162 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi there,
I worked on making the MoS templates (Template:style + template:manual of style)match each other in terms of what they contained. They should now each contain all of the links that the other contain, and that the respective MoS categories contain.
I did not, however, alphabetize the lists, determine notability of certain WikiProject guidelines in the categories, or add some of the pages from the MoS sports categories to the templates.
Let me know if any changes need to be made or if I was too WP:BOLD!
JuxtaposedJacob ( talk) 05:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Style template. |
|
Manual of Style | ||||||||||
|
Please add issues below as you see fit.
If we're going to redesign it, can we change it to CSS instead of tables for layout at the same time? - Quiddity 22:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Should I add the other Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Submanuals that aren't listed here yet? -- Quiddity 04:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
How about Wikipedia:Summary style? - jc37 11:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
And I have now added Infoboxes Frelke 12:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Record charts be added? This list keeps getting longer... what if we start to merge some pages (e.g. Wikipedia:Record charts with Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music))? It's not really a problem belonging to this specific template, which is just a result of the underlying problem of too many guidelines on too many pages... it makes it hard to find certain information. - Rocket000 19:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Yet another one: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (diagrams and maps). Should i just add it? -- Jokes Free4Me ( talk) 16:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_94#Overhaul_of_the_so-called_Style_Template. Tony (talk) 04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I've moved all the "ThisCountry-related articles" to a COMMON sub-section. I think it doesn't matter that some of them are policies and other guides, because there is no clash for any country, i.e. there is no policy about France and guide about France. Furthermore, I propose splitting them to a completely different template. I think that some more over-specific links should join, like Chemistry, Math, etc. Let's leave only very general and very basic stuff here. Comments? -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 18:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) link be in the "Related to specific cultures" section? It is very out of place where it is now. I am going to be bold and move it down the template, but feel free to revert me. Plasticup T/ C 22:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Although numbers is included in the list, it's not immediately obvious (being listed under "D" for "Dates and numbers"). For something so basic, I think it ought to have its own entry and have been bold and made it so. Bazza ( talk) 14:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
This template is really long. Can we get some "hide/show" sections, so that pages that are primarily connected to a single aspect could display a shorter list? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 17:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to have subsections appear on the list, once a main page is highlighted. For example Wikipedia:Words to avoid has its own entry, Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words is in the articles 'See also' section and seems closely related. it would make sense to me if once you were on 'words to avoid', that the navbox then displayed the pages that are related so one would get:
I'm sure I've seen this done in other templates, but not sure how easy it is. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 11:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to Eubulides for removing the excess white space in the template. Tony (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}}
Add
It has the {{ style-guideline}} warning. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 04:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
User:Gnevin/sandbox6. Thoughts ? Gnevin ( talk) 17:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason why WP:MOSFILM is not included in the template? Almogo ( talk) 16:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Change the text in the button from 'Search the MoS' to 'Search the Manual'. Just to avoid the acronym. cheers -- Boy.pockets ( talk) 10:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I have a picture of Dave Keon. How do I insert it.
Midager (
talk) 09:33, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion in MOS Talk page regarding ways to improve searching/indexing for the many Manual Of Style (MOS) pages in WP. It seems to me that this template Template:Style could be vastly improved: in addition to pointing the reader to the MOS categories (which this template already does) it could also list all the important of the MOS-related articles. The key goal is to help readers quickly find MOS-related articles, and help them save time so they dont have to visit the categories, etc. Putting the important MOS articles directly in the NavBox will help readers quickly and directly find the info they need. I'm willing to improve the template in that manner, but I welcome comments. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is a draft of a proposed improvement: Template talk:Style/draft A: -- Noleander ( talk) 21:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
If the size is the major objection, a compromise would be to have a Show/Hide choice next to each section, as is shown in "draft B": Template talk:Style/draft B (shown at right). That way the navbox would initially be small (as it currently is) but users could expand by clicking the Show button. And the Navbox would then be consistent with the other WP navboxes, by listing articles/pages. -- Noleander ( talk) 01:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Manual of Style |
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Related guidelines
|
Not seeing any additional feedback, I've moved "draft B" into the public template. More feedback and ideas are always useful. -- Noleander ( talk) 18:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
An aspect of this navbox that may confuse some users is when a section, such as "Music", (which has a Category) also has a dedicated "Music" page. When a user clicks on the "Music" section link, where should the user be vectored: to the MOS Music category? or to the MOS-Music page? -- Noleander ( talk) 18:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) has a long list of country-specific issues regarding names. Most of these are too short to warrant their own pages, but should nevertheless be included within WP:MOS in one way or another. I have taken the bull by the horns and added them to the Regional section of this list. I trust that this is in order. Martinvl ( talk) 09:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
can we move this to template:Manual of Style? I have been cleaning up transclusions in article space for several hours today. most of them are from {} typos like this one, but some are from confusion with maintenance tags. Frietjes ( talk) 17:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What should I do if I want to expand more than one section? Corphine ( talk) 07:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. EdJohnston ( talk) 22:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Template:Style → ? – "Style" alone too general.
Sardanaphalus (
talk) 09:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Manual of style should probably be removed as it is not part of the MOS. 207.161.86.162 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi there,
I worked on making the MoS templates (Template:style + template:manual of style)match each other in terms of what they contained. They should now each contain all of the links that the other contain, and that the respective MoS categories contain.
I did not, however, alphabetize the lists, determine notability of certain WikiProject guidelines in the categories, or add some of the pages from the MoS sports categories to the templates.
Let me know if any changes need to be made or if I was too WP:BOLD!
JuxtaposedJacob ( talk) 05:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)