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This map is completly wrong and POV! It states, wrongly, that the Portuguese possessions in South America were part of the Spanish Empire, that was never the case, not even in the period of the Iberian Union, between 1580 and 1640, when the two countries had the same kings. But it was not a union of the countries and their respective empires - it was a personal union of the crowns in one dynasty - the Habsburgs. I am changing the image. The Ogre 19:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I am not sure how current audiencia is as an accepted English-language term for a Spanish political /judicial administration ("audience" is the appropriate but possibly misleading alternative,) but real should certainly be translated on every page using it to "Royal," which is what is meant. Also Ogre is correct in his point above. - LlywelynII ( talk) 08:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Finally, was the audience at Lima a separate entity from the Viceroyalty of Peru? If not, the currently dead link could be redirected to the viceroyalty article. - LlywelynII ( talk) 08:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
The size of this template was MASSIVELY increased about a year ago. See how the template used to look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Spanish_Empire&oldid=694967308 And its current size: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Spanish_Empire&oldid=752139399
This isn't what templates are supposed to be for. It's not "Every possible link", it's an overview of related topics, in this case governmental organization & administration, not every person ever associated with it. I'd be in favor of just plain straight up reverting to the old version, although maybe a few of the additions can stay, and other additions can perhaps be spun off into their own new template. Notably, the "battles" section might be okay for a new template along the lines of "Battles of the Spanish Empire", but that has nothing to do with your average Viceroyalty. (And... separting by "won" vs. "lost" is super-weird and not normally done. Separation by war or date seems to make a lot more sense.)
@ Vvven: , any thoughts, since I see you expanded this a lot? SnowFire ( talk) 07:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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This map is completly wrong and POV! It states, wrongly, that the Portuguese possessions in South America were part of the Spanish Empire, that was never the case, not even in the period of the Iberian Union, between 1580 and 1640, when the two countries had the same kings. But it was not a union of the countries and their respective empires - it was a personal union of the crowns in one dynasty - the Habsburgs. I am changing the image. The Ogre 19:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I am not sure how current audiencia is as an accepted English-language term for a Spanish political /judicial administration ("audience" is the appropriate but possibly misleading alternative,) but real should certainly be translated on every page using it to "Royal," which is what is meant. Also Ogre is correct in his point above. - LlywelynII ( talk) 08:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Finally, was the audience at Lima a separate entity from the Viceroyalty of Peru? If not, the currently dead link could be redirected to the viceroyalty article. - LlywelynII ( talk) 08:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
The size of this template was MASSIVELY increased about a year ago. See how the template used to look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Spanish_Empire&oldid=694967308 And its current size: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Spanish_Empire&oldid=752139399
This isn't what templates are supposed to be for. It's not "Every possible link", it's an overview of related topics, in this case governmental organization & administration, not every person ever associated with it. I'd be in favor of just plain straight up reverting to the old version, although maybe a few of the additions can stay, and other additions can perhaps be spun off into their own new template. Notably, the "battles" section might be okay for a new template along the lines of "Battles of the Spanish Empire", but that has nothing to do with your average Viceroyalty. (And... separting by "won" vs. "lost" is super-weird and not normally done. Separation by war or date seems to make a lot more sense.)
@ Vvven: , any thoughts, since I see you expanded this a lot? SnowFire ( talk) 07:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)