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Not the first openly transgender person to serve in any US state legislature?

Danica Roem was earlier, elected to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017, entering office in 2018. - Emil Sayahi ( talk) 00:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Laughton appears to have been elected back in 2012 but resigned before she could serve. Daniel Case ( talk) 02:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply
First to get elected, not the first to actually serve. LM2000 ( talk) 08:25, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Stacie Laughton was first elected in 2012. 2601:18C:9080:2510:B0D9:7440:E0B1:22C ( talk) 18:28, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2023

He is a man. 2601:283:487E:4F0:A460:127C:8D79:9FD8 ( talk) 14:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Probably nonsense/meaningless message. ☀DefenderTienMinh⛤☯☽ ( talk) 14:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect date of 2023 charges

The article reads "On June 17, she was further charged with aiding and abetting in the sexual exploitation of children". However, as per the cited source this date should read "July 17". 23.93.93.23 ( talk) 14:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Aight. I will fix it. EytanMelech ( talk) 19:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Detailing the CP charges

There was a previous edit made by an IP that detailed the text messages between Laughton and the other person in the text conversation. It was removed, and I assumed it was because of misgendering - the IP referred to Laughton as “he.” I then added the changes back and removed the misgendering, but it was again removed. Isn’t this information that is highly relevant to Laughton, and therefore worthy of being in the article? I was told that consensus should be reached here, so maybe I’m missing something, but is there a reason why the light specifics would NOT be included? Pufferfishe ( talk) 23:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

See WP:BLPCRIME. An accusation, allegation, arrest, or even being charged, is not a conviction and we have to be very careful about what we include in an article when someone is accused of committing a crime. We have no way to know if the allegations within the WMUR article are correct or not, and it's not our role to find out. We leave that to the court system.
Secondly, it's WP:UNDUE. I've tried searching for the specific quotation, and can't seem to find any reliable sources that have included it. That immediately seems like including it would be giving undue weight. Even for Laughton's arrest there's very few reliable sources other than the two we already cite (WMUR and AP News), so until there's a progression on the case and more reliable sources cover that, there doesn't seem to be much scope for extending this beyond the fact that she was arrested in June and charged in July. It's important to remember that Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and we don't include everything that is verifiable. It has to meet other relevant policies, like NPOV and BLP, and be considered of encyclopaedic value before it can be included. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:01, 26 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect listing of her position

She should be referred to as Selectwoman, not Selectman 24.80.180.3 ( talk) 06:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the first openly transgender person to serve in any US state legislature?

Danica Roem was earlier, elected to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017, entering office in 2018. - Emil Sayahi ( talk) 00:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Laughton appears to have been elected back in 2012 but resigned before she could serve. Daniel Case ( talk) 02:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply
First to get elected, not the first to actually serve. LM2000 ( talk) 08:25, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Stacie Laughton was first elected in 2012. 2601:18C:9080:2510:B0D9:7440:E0B1:22C ( talk) 18:28, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2023

He is a man. 2601:283:487E:4F0:A460:127C:8D79:9FD8 ( talk) 14:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Probably nonsense/meaningless message. ☀DefenderTienMinh⛤☯☽ ( talk) 14:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect date of 2023 charges

The article reads "On June 17, she was further charged with aiding and abetting in the sexual exploitation of children". However, as per the cited source this date should read "July 17". 23.93.93.23 ( talk) 14:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Aight. I will fix it. EytanMelech ( talk) 19:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Detailing the CP charges

There was a previous edit made by an IP that detailed the text messages between Laughton and the other person in the text conversation. It was removed, and I assumed it was because of misgendering - the IP referred to Laughton as “he.” I then added the changes back and removed the misgendering, but it was again removed. Isn’t this information that is highly relevant to Laughton, and therefore worthy of being in the article? I was told that consensus should be reached here, so maybe I’m missing something, but is there a reason why the light specifics would NOT be included? Pufferfishe ( talk) 23:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC) reply

See WP:BLPCRIME. An accusation, allegation, arrest, or even being charged, is not a conviction and we have to be very careful about what we include in an article when someone is accused of committing a crime. We have no way to know if the allegations within the WMUR article are correct or not, and it's not our role to find out. We leave that to the court system.
Secondly, it's WP:UNDUE. I've tried searching for the specific quotation, and can't seem to find any reliable sources that have included it. That immediately seems like including it would be giving undue weight. Even for Laughton's arrest there's very few reliable sources other than the two we already cite (WMUR and AP News), so until there's a progression on the case and more reliable sources cover that, there doesn't seem to be much scope for extending this beyond the fact that she was arrested in June and charged in July. It's important to remember that Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and we don't include everything that is verifiable. It has to meet other relevant policies, like NPOV and BLP, and be considered of encyclopaedic value before it can be included. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:01, 26 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect listing of her position

She should be referred to as Selectwoman, not Selectman 24.80.180.3 ( talk) 06:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC) reply


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