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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC) reply

ADHD classification

I have a feeling someone will move ADHD back to "emotional and behavioural disorders" so I want to ask that you please remove the example altogether instead if you must. Many find the classification of ADHD as a behavioural disorder is stigmatising as it characterises it primarily by its effects on other people, downplaying the internal symptoms and effects on individuals. Furthermore, research in the last 10-20 years has identified that people with ADHD often have no obvious behavioural or emotional symptoms at all. It is first and foremost a cognitive impairment on executive functions. A child with ADHD could be perfectly happy and well behaved, and still fall behind at school due to their ADHD. Please, if you feel ADHD doesn't belong in its current place, I only ask that you don't reclassify it as an emotional or behavioural disorder. Thank you. Djelibey ( talk) 10:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC) reply

I moved it to neurodevelopmental disorders. I agree that it's not an emotional or behavioral disorder but it's also not a learning disorder. Queenofconfusion ( talk) 18:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

abuse in special ed

 I think that the abuse in special education is very important to include in this article. lots of students have reported abuse and I feel that there should be more information on the abuse and overuse physical restraint of students. Whippersnapper12345 ( talk) 19:15, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

There are many sources online discussing this subject I will link a few.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/seclusion-enforcement-recent-investigations
https://projects.seattletimes.com/2022/local/washington-special-education-schools-nonpublic-agencies-abuse-complaints/
https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-dramatically-limits-use-of-seclusion-and-face-down-restraints-in-schools Whippersnapper12345 ( talk) 20:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Whippersnapper12345, all of those sources are about the same country. Country-specific information should normally go in Special education in the United States. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 04:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC) reply
I have done my own research and have found more claims of abuse and negative policies from all over the world.
here are the links.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58885635
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1198901.pdf ArthurEisler1978 ( talk) 23:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Seclusion rooms

 students at school are often being locked in what are called seclusion rooms as punishment.

https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-dramatically-limits-use-of-seclusion-and-face-down-restraints-in-schools

I think this should go somewhere in the special education article. anyone with any ideas of including this in the article should share their thoughts. Snowman680 ( talk) 18:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC) reply

Although we may not do a very good job of managing the US-centric bias in this article, information that is only about the US (or in this case, one small part of the US) should probably be considered for Special education in the United States, rather than the worldwide article.
If you decided to write something about seclusion, then I suggest writing about the whole 'story': Why they exist, what benefits were expected, what the prior practice was, etc. That includes naming effective alternatives. As in: if a special-needs teen is having a violent moment and isn't allowed to go into a quiet room by themselves to calm down, what exactly is the school supposed to do to prevent harm to all the other students and staff in the building? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:24, 11 October 2023 (UTC) reply

The redirect Seclusion room has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 7 § Seclusion room until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 07:47, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply

seclusion room is now a redirects to padded cell I think it should be the it should be the other way around. padded cell should redirect to seclusion room Epsteindidnotkillhimself smith ( talk) 19:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Chadowelf.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC) reply

ADHD classification

I have a feeling someone will move ADHD back to "emotional and behavioural disorders" so I want to ask that you please remove the example altogether instead if you must. Many find the classification of ADHD as a behavioural disorder is stigmatising as it characterises it primarily by its effects on other people, downplaying the internal symptoms and effects on individuals. Furthermore, research in the last 10-20 years has identified that people with ADHD often have no obvious behavioural or emotional symptoms at all. It is first and foremost a cognitive impairment on executive functions. A child with ADHD could be perfectly happy and well behaved, and still fall behind at school due to their ADHD. Please, if you feel ADHD doesn't belong in its current place, I only ask that you don't reclassify it as an emotional or behavioural disorder. Thank you. Djelibey ( talk) 10:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC) reply

I moved it to neurodevelopmental disorders. I agree that it's not an emotional or behavioral disorder but it's also not a learning disorder. Queenofconfusion ( talk) 18:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC) reply

abuse in special ed

 I think that the abuse in special education is very important to include in this article. lots of students have reported abuse and I feel that there should be more information on the abuse and overuse physical restraint of students. Whippersnapper12345 ( talk) 19:15, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

There are many sources online discussing this subject I will link a few.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/seclusion-enforcement-recent-investigations
https://projects.seattletimes.com/2022/local/washington-special-education-schools-nonpublic-agencies-abuse-complaints/
https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-dramatically-limits-use-of-seclusion-and-face-down-restraints-in-schools Whippersnapper12345 ( talk) 20:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Whippersnapper12345, all of those sources are about the same country. Country-specific information should normally go in Special education in the United States. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 04:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC) reply
I have done my own research and have found more claims of abuse and negative policies from all over the world.
here are the links.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58885635
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1198901.pdf ArthurEisler1978 ( talk) 23:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Seclusion rooms

 students at school are often being locked in what are called seclusion rooms as punishment.

https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-dramatically-limits-use-of-seclusion-and-face-down-restraints-in-schools

I think this should go somewhere in the special education article. anyone with any ideas of including this in the article should share their thoughts. Snowman680 ( talk) 18:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC) reply

Although we may not do a very good job of managing the US-centric bias in this article, information that is only about the US (or in this case, one small part of the US) should probably be considered for Special education in the United States, rather than the worldwide article.
If you decided to write something about seclusion, then I suggest writing about the whole 'story': Why they exist, what benefits were expected, what the prior practice was, etc. That includes naming effective alternatives. As in: if a special-needs teen is having a violent moment and isn't allowed to go into a quiet room by themselves to calm down, what exactly is the school supposed to do to prevent harm to all the other students and staff in the building? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:24, 11 October 2023 (UTC) reply

The redirect Seclusion room has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 7 § Seclusion room until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 07:47, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply

seclusion room is now a redirects to padded cell I think it should be the it should be the other way around. padded cell should redirect to seclusion room Epsteindidnotkillhimself smith ( talk) 19:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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