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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 22:14, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Created by Philafrenzy ( talk) and Whispyhistory ( talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy ( talk) at 21:48, 13 December 2019 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image eligibility:
QPQ: - TBD
Overall:
Notability not evaluated. Second hook ok without picture. Please do not move DYK nom subpages, it leads to unexpected results (if you click the review link, you will see what I mean)
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Here are a couple of Alts (2nd pic relates to Alt 3):
Giving this a fresh review as it's been some time and there have been over 50 edits to the page since being nominated:
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Previous issues have been addressed. This article is good to go. Prefer ALT2 over others, personally find it most interesting. ~ riley ( talk) 21:39, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
A patent is self-published and cannot be used as a source for anything. See WP:SOURCES. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 15:10, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
References
Enix150 ( talk) 22:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
None of the sources used in this edit are reliable. The 'forbes.com' cite isn't actually forbes. (See WP:FORBESCON). Parolaanalytics is consulting company's content marketing blog. The Daily Beast is an opinion source, and one that doesn't do well in WP:RSN discussions. This is not the level of sourcing we'd need to suggest that Pais has invented aircraft that fly in apparent violation of the known laws of physics. MrOllie ( talk) 03:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
No academic grades except where they are useful), but the paragraph is doomed anyway. It is only there because of stubbornness. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 06:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
JFYI. The man himself speaking about the patents, (trying to explain) the physics behind, and also addressing all the criticism. Probably good to extract a few quotes from and put those in the article? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5E6QyAhTB3o 2A02:8106:208:9200:25EB:89F2:BD87:750F ( talk) 06:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Edit: He also talks about being Romanian(-born) and coming to the US at age 13 and that his first language is Romanian and having a hard time (quote "confused about language") with English language
Edit2: Part 2 of the interview, with additional guest Stephon Alexander https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PE4C7OI7Frg
@ JPxG: Just came across this and I'm not really getting the arguments against including these interviews as external links. The youtube channel is "fringe because all the subs are probably just bots" and "this guy sees himself as a social media influencer"...? Wtf? No one is trying to link to his IG "merch page" and he's not some kid posting gopro clips of himself lighting farts on a college dorm room couch, or doing wipe-outs on a skateboard. He has filed several notable patents on behalf of the US Navy, has done research and development work for them, the Space Force and is now doing the same for Air Force. There is only two known interviews with the guy, both are available to link to, but they can't be included here because two guys don't think the links to said video clips should be included for... reasons? This right here is a wiki-bureaucracy failure. - wolf 03:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
This article appears to lend undue weight to certain ideas and controversies, and without contextualization to balance out such material. So, I have re-added the UNDUE tag per normal editing practices. Please do not remove this tag again. Also, this article's reliance for referencing to the The Drive website and patents (primary sources) also present NPOV issues. None of these are reliable sources. Independent third party sources are needed. ---- Steve Quinn ( talk) 20:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
References
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https://twitter.com/tinyklaus/status/1686591279377911808 Foerdi ( talk) 06:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7aCrznDR6mw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RfJ6cC5TEPQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N94mw4ZXDmQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lkky3pKaseA
The man clearly wants to talk respectively "someone" wants him to talk more
A fact from Salvatore Pais appeared on Wikipedia's
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Did you know column on 11 January 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 22:14, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Created by Philafrenzy ( talk) and Whispyhistory ( talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy ( talk) at 21:48, 13 December 2019 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image eligibility:
QPQ: - TBD
Overall:
Notability not evaluated. Second hook ok without picture. Please do not move DYK nom subpages, it leads to unexpected results (if you click the review link, you will see what I mean)
b
uidh
e 22:36, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Here are a couple of Alts (2nd pic relates to Alt 3):
Giving this a fresh review as it's been some time and there have been over 50 edits to the page since being nominated:
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Previous issues have been addressed. This article is good to go. Prefer ALT2 over others, personally find it most interesting. ~ riley ( talk) 21:39, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
A patent is self-published and cannot be used as a source for anything. See WP:SOURCES. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 15:10, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
References
Enix150 ( talk) 22:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
None of the sources used in this edit are reliable. The 'forbes.com' cite isn't actually forbes. (See WP:FORBESCON). Parolaanalytics is consulting company's content marketing blog. The Daily Beast is an opinion source, and one that doesn't do well in WP:RSN discussions. This is not the level of sourcing we'd need to suggest that Pais has invented aircraft that fly in apparent violation of the known laws of physics. MrOllie ( talk) 03:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
No academic grades except where they are useful), but the paragraph is doomed anyway. It is only there because of stubbornness. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 06:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
JFYI. The man himself speaking about the patents, (trying to explain) the physics behind, and also addressing all the criticism. Probably good to extract a few quotes from and put those in the article? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5E6QyAhTB3o 2A02:8106:208:9200:25EB:89F2:BD87:750F ( talk) 06:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Edit: He also talks about being Romanian(-born) and coming to the US at age 13 and that his first language is Romanian and having a hard time (quote "confused about language") with English language
Edit2: Part 2 of the interview, with additional guest Stephon Alexander https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PE4C7OI7Frg
@ JPxG: Just came across this and I'm not really getting the arguments against including these interviews as external links. The youtube channel is "fringe because all the subs are probably just bots" and "this guy sees himself as a social media influencer"...? Wtf? No one is trying to link to his IG "merch page" and he's not some kid posting gopro clips of himself lighting farts on a college dorm room couch, or doing wipe-outs on a skateboard. He has filed several notable patents on behalf of the US Navy, has done research and development work for them, the Space Force and is now doing the same for Air Force. There is only two known interviews with the guy, both are available to link to, but they can't be included here because two guys don't think the links to said video clips should be included for... reasons? This right here is a wiki-bureaucracy failure. - wolf 03:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
This article appears to lend undue weight to certain ideas and controversies, and without contextualization to balance out such material. So, I have re-added the UNDUE tag per normal editing practices. Please do not remove this tag again. Also, this article's reliance for referencing to the The Drive website and patents (primary sources) also present NPOV issues. None of these are reliable sources. Independent third party sources are needed. ---- Steve Quinn ( talk) 20:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
References
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: url-status (
link)
https://twitter.com/tinyklaus/status/1686591279377911808 Foerdi ( talk) 06:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7aCrznDR6mw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RfJ6cC5TEPQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N94mw4ZXDmQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lkky3pKaseA
The man clearly wants to talk respectively "someone" wants him to talk more