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The following sentence seems potentially misleading:
"Some children do not speak at all, others speak in limited phrases or conversations, and some have relatively normal language development."
"Speech development" may be a more appropriate phrase than "language development". I have PDD-NOS, and as a child I didn't have "relatively normal language development". In terms of reading and writing ("language" skills), I had exceptional development. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can say that. The current phrasing of the quoted sentence could easily be misconstrued to imply that people like me are either lying or deluded about our "development" ; )
Thank you, Karada. I agree that the text you removed sounded "wrong", I felt the same way but didn't dare to remove it, being a newbie and not wanting to anger people on my first day as a Wikipedian. -- Woggly 10:59, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No problems. Some general principles:
If you set your preferences to add articles you edit to your watchlist, replies to your comments will automatically pop up in your watchlist. -- Karada 11:07, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"PDD is not fatal and does not affect normal life expectancy." Does suicide count? Asperger's Syndrome says "People with AS attempt suicide at a staggeringly high rate in comparison to the general population, although whether this is due to AS or depression comorbid to AS is a matter of debate." Tualha 21:40, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'd recommend including some references to research demonstrating a correlation between PDD and suicides etc, instead of links to the pages of those words' definitions. 217.166.66.2 ( talk) 08:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I added content about a treatment that I read about at http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=46768.
I felt that it was an important sounding new alternative and couldn't see that it would be too controversal. I also included a link to http://www.responsiveteaching.org/ (usigned, contributed by IP User: 24.18.191.84 )
An interesting treatment that we have been using (with great success) with my daughter, who is PDD/NOS, is NIDS
http://nids.net/. We use the clinic in Northern NY
http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/ The whole basis of this being Neuro and immunological makes a lot of sense. Worth reading up on if someone wants to run with it, be my guest.
I was told by a professional in the autism community that PDD is know being refered as Autism Spectrum Disorder. Can someone clarify this for me. -- JFred 22:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I work for a mental health agency in the USA and the terms Pervasive Developmental Disorder and Autistic Spectrum Disorders are used interchangably.
Someone else here said "there are a few pervasive developmental disorders that are not part of the autistic spectrum." This seems inaccurate to me. BAP (Broader Autistic Spectrum) appears to be a group of diagnoses with symptoms that share similiarities with Autism/PDD. Schizophrenia would probably fall under this category, but Schizophrenia is not considered a form of Autism/PDD.
I have no idea what the article means about how having la Yes, PDD is category, not a specific disorder. But if a clinician indicates only "PDD" there is no choice but to consider it "PDD NOS." NOS means "not otherwise specified"; since nothing is specified, that's what "NOS" is intended to indicate.
Another part of the article seems inaccurate to me. I never heard that having a label of either Autistic Spectrum Disorder as opposed to PDD makes any difference in qualifying for any kind of service. Unless the person who wrote it is talking about some kind of unusual stipulation that is only used in a particular state or by a particular agency. It sounds like an unreasonable rule to me since PDD and Autistic Spectrum Disorder are the same thing.
71.14.67.20 (
talk) 17:40, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Everything I've ever read or heard about autism, including everything on Wikipedia, indicates that it is primarily a social condition; that persons with autism don't develop normal social skills. My best friend's child (I think of him as my nephew, though there is no blood relationship) has just been diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorder. His mother says the doctor told her it is a very mild form of autism.
I know this child well, and spend a lot of time with him and his mother. No one who spends even five minutes with this child can deny that his development is simply not normal. When she first said PDD, I said, "well, that's sort of like when someone goes to their doctor and says they are tired all the time and the doctor diagnoses them with Chronic Fatigue Syndrom." That's when she said no, it is an actual diagnosis, it is a mild form of autism.
But this child, while his development is certianly not normal, I don't believe he is autistic. He is almost 3, and his primary developmental delays seem to be that he cannot yet walk, and he cannot yet talk. However, except for the complete lack of language abilities, he seems to interact normally with other children and adults. His body language and facial expressions are not impaired, he recognizes people and is genuinly glad to see them, he smiles, laughs, crys, etc. in a normal fashion. He also seems to understand other people's body language. He loves to cuddle, kiss, and generally do all the social things that autistic kids generally do not do. Moreover, it seems that delayed motor skills are not a major function of autism or PDD, but the delayed motor skills are even more pronounced in this child than the delayed communication.
I know Wikipedia talk pages aren't the right location for this... I just don't understand, and was hoping the article could increase my understanding. And it didn't. ONUnicorn 15:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
This article gives a goodly amount of information on PDD, but neglects to mention a skeptics POV on the designation of PDD/NOS as a catchall for too many merely subjective impressions of the 'patients'. My daughter was 'diagnosed' with PDD/NOS at about age 2, yet I think this was more of a result of an hysterical mother who is overly concerned with the tiniest of differences between our daughter and the 'normal' behavior of a two year old. If you look closely enough, you could find almost anyone atypical in some way; as my daughter grew older, 7yo now, she more than compensated for any perceived anomolies and she seems as bright, articulate and sociable as any 7yo, yet she still carries the stigma her mother essentially lobbied for, and from which doctors were only too willing to create a new patient for future continuing revenues. PDD/NOS is another way of saying ideopathic, and like giving antibiotics for a viral infection, is often given just to sooth the patients' (guardians) concerns. It is being misapplied far too often. Unsigned. Revision as of 05:42, 24 September 2011, user:Garyonthenet.
What is the main difference between PDD and NVLD? Does it is lack of theory of mind, weak central coherence and imaginative play or the main problem is poor ability to emotional experience with others with stereotyped and restricted activities?
What is between AS and NVLD? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.106.22 ( talk) 10:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted a substantial addition of text because of:
Please be aware of WP:COPYVIO, WP:PARAPHRASE, WP:MEDMOS (on structure), and read Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:48, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
The article is outdated and is lacking information. I included some bullet points of what could be fixed, what could be expanded on, and what could be further clarrified. Though no one has updated the article in quite some time, it is important to take into account what others have said in the talk section. It should be noted that sensitivity should be taken when writing this article and provide bias free information that is informative.
OSandoval Future UCSF PharmD ( talk) 20:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
The "Behavior" subsection of "Diagnosis" seems really out of place. Since it exclusively talks about the relationship between crime and Autism, it almost seems like it should be in a different article/page, and not under PDD (perhaps it would fit under the Autism page?), though certainly having it under diagnosis seems like an odd choice. Also, the abbreviation HFA is never explained -- does that stand for High Functioning Autism? I don't want to move or modify the segment without understanding why it is there, so if anyone could explain or move it, it'd be much appreciated. Polynumeric ( talk) 16:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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The following sentence seems potentially misleading:
"Some children do not speak at all, others speak in limited phrases or conversations, and some have relatively normal language development."
"Speech development" may be a more appropriate phrase than "language development". I have PDD-NOS, and as a child I didn't have "relatively normal language development". In terms of reading and writing ("language" skills), I had exceptional development. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can say that. The current phrasing of the quoted sentence could easily be misconstrued to imply that people like me are either lying or deluded about our "development" ; )
Thank you, Karada. I agree that the text you removed sounded "wrong", I felt the same way but didn't dare to remove it, being a newbie and not wanting to anger people on my first day as a Wikipedian. -- Woggly 10:59, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No problems. Some general principles:
If you set your preferences to add articles you edit to your watchlist, replies to your comments will automatically pop up in your watchlist. -- Karada 11:07, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"PDD is not fatal and does not affect normal life expectancy." Does suicide count? Asperger's Syndrome says "People with AS attempt suicide at a staggeringly high rate in comparison to the general population, although whether this is due to AS or depression comorbid to AS is a matter of debate." Tualha 21:40, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'd recommend including some references to research demonstrating a correlation between PDD and suicides etc, instead of links to the pages of those words' definitions. 217.166.66.2 ( talk) 08:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I added content about a treatment that I read about at http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=46768.
I felt that it was an important sounding new alternative and couldn't see that it would be too controversal. I also included a link to http://www.responsiveteaching.org/ (usigned, contributed by IP User: 24.18.191.84 )
An interesting treatment that we have been using (with great success) with my daughter, who is PDD/NOS, is NIDS
http://nids.net/. We use the clinic in Northern NY
http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/ The whole basis of this being Neuro and immunological makes a lot of sense. Worth reading up on if someone wants to run with it, be my guest.
I was told by a professional in the autism community that PDD is know being refered as Autism Spectrum Disorder. Can someone clarify this for me. -- JFred 22:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I work for a mental health agency in the USA and the terms Pervasive Developmental Disorder and Autistic Spectrum Disorders are used interchangably.
Someone else here said "there are a few pervasive developmental disorders that are not part of the autistic spectrum." This seems inaccurate to me. BAP (Broader Autistic Spectrum) appears to be a group of diagnoses with symptoms that share similiarities with Autism/PDD. Schizophrenia would probably fall under this category, but Schizophrenia is not considered a form of Autism/PDD.
I have no idea what the article means about how having la Yes, PDD is category, not a specific disorder. But if a clinician indicates only "PDD" there is no choice but to consider it "PDD NOS." NOS means "not otherwise specified"; since nothing is specified, that's what "NOS" is intended to indicate.
Another part of the article seems inaccurate to me. I never heard that having a label of either Autistic Spectrum Disorder as opposed to PDD makes any difference in qualifying for any kind of service. Unless the person who wrote it is talking about some kind of unusual stipulation that is only used in a particular state or by a particular agency. It sounds like an unreasonable rule to me since PDD and Autistic Spectrum Disorder are the same thing.
71.14.67.20 (
talk) 17:40, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Everything I've ever read or heard about autism, including everything on Wikipedia, indicates that it is primarily a social condition; that persons with autism don't develop normal social skills. My best friend's child (I think of him as my nephew, though there is no blood relationship) has just been diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorder. His mother says the doctor told her it is a very mild form of autism.
I know this child well, and spend a lot of time with him and his mother. No one who spends even five minutes with this child can deny that his development is simply not normal. When she first said PDD, I said, "well, that's sort of like when someone goes to their doctor and says they are tired all the time and the doctor diagnoses them with Chronic Fatigue Syndrom." That's when she said no, it is an actual diagnosis, it is a mild form of autism.
But this child, while his development is certianly not normal, I don't believe he is autistic. He is almost 3, and his primary developmental delays seem to be that he cannot yet walk, and he cannot yet talk. However, except for the complete lack of language abilities, he seems to interact normally with other children and adults. His body language and facial expressions are not impaired, he recognizes people and is genuinly glad to see them, he smiles, laughs, crys, etc. in a normal fashion. He also seems to understand other people's body language. He loves to cuddle, kiss, and generally do all the social things that autistic kids generally do not do. Moreover, it seems that delayed motor skills are not a major function of autism or PDD, but the delayed motor skills are even more pronounced in this child than the delayed communication.
I know Wikipedia talk pages aren't the right location for this... I just don't understand, and was hoping the article could increase my understanding. And it didn't. ONUnicorn 15:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
This article gives a goodly amount of information on PDD, but neglects to mention a skeptics POV on the designation of PDD/NOS as a catchall for too many merely subjective impressions of the 'patients'. My daughter was 'diagnosed' with PDD/NOS at about age 2, yet I think this was more of a result of an hysterical mother who is overly concerned with the tiniest of differences between our daughter and the 'normal' behavior of a two year old. If you look closely enough, you could find almost anyone atypical in some way; as my daughter grew older, 7yo now, she more than compensated for any perceived anomolies and she seems as bright, articulate and sociable as any 7yo, yet she still carries the stigma her mother essentially lobbied for, and from which doctors were only too willing to create a new patient for future continuing revenues. PDD/NOS is another way of saying ideopathic, and like giving antibiotics for a viral infection, is often given just to sooth the patients' (guardians) concerns. It is being misapplied far too often. Unsigned. Revision as of 05:42, 24 September 2011, user:Garyonthenet.
What is the main difference between PDD and NVLD? Does it is lack of theory of mind, weak central coherence and imaginative play or the main problem is poor ability to emotional experience with others with stereotyped and restricted activities?
What is between AS and NVLD? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.106.22 ( talk) 10:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted a substantial addition of text because of:
Please be aware of WP:COPYVIO, WP:PARAPHRASE, WP:MEDMOS (on structure), and read Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:48, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
The article is outdated and is lacking information. I included some bullet points of what could be fixed, what could be expanded on, and what could be further clarrified. Though no one has updated the article in quite some time, it is important to take into account what others have said in the talk section. It should be noted that sensitivity should be taken when writing this article and provide bias free information that is informative.
OSandoval Future UCSF PharmD ( talk) 20:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
The "Behavior" subsection of "Diagnosis" seems really out of place. Since it exclusively talks about the relationship between crime and Autism, it almost seems like it should be in a different article/page, and not under PDD (perhaps it would fit under the Autism page?), though certainly having it under diagnosis seems like an odd choice. Also, the abbreviation HFA is never explained -- does that stand for High Functioning Autism? I don't want to move or modify the segment without understanding why it is there, so if anyone could explain or move it, it'd be much appreciated. Polynumeric ( talk) 16:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)