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If you have never used this tool before, I recommend it: http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/. You just type (or copy) the name of an article in the box, and Nick rummages through your article, to end up by suggesting many different internal links which you might have overlooked. Most of them are good; some are not (you have to check). Nick won't make any suggestions until the syntax of your article is correct: Usually bad syntax is caused by stray brackets or apostrophes in the copy. Nick provides you with a list of the bad apples, but then you have to seek them out. A fairly easy way is to copy the text into a word processor and then search for the stray marks there. (The new links for this article are indicated here.) Of course one must be cautious in doing so and not engage in linking just for the sake of linking. I hope this has been helpful. Again, I recommend using Nick's very valuable tool. Yours sincerely,

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2023

Fix the spelling mistakes in the last sentence of the second paragraph of the education section. Currently the sentence reads "Under the influence of Peter Fraser, whom Dirac called the best mathematics teacher, he had the most interest in prjective geometry, and began applying it to the geometrical version of relativity Minkowski developped". The words "projective" and "developed" are misspelled. Hp 1215 ( talk) 04:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

 Done AnnaMankad ( talk) 04:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023

Add to the end of relevant personal life:

A bust of Paul Dirac now resides at Florida State University near Dirac Library along with other notable figures in STEM, many of which he brought with him to Florida State. ChrisBernhardt ( talk) 04:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC) reply

I think this would fit in best in the Legacy section, but there are already several images there and it would overrun the text. This is a useful photo, but I'm not sure where it could go.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:20, 17 June 2023 (UTC) reply

 Done - added the image in the FSU section, rearranged some of the other images to prevent bunching. Polyamorph ( talk) 14:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Gravitational waves were postulated in the 19th century.

I'm removing this claim: "Dirac further postulated the existence of gravitational waves, declaring them to have "physical significance" in his 1959 lecture at the Lindau Meetings"

Gravitational waves have a long history, including postulates by Laplace and Poincare. See for example Cervantes-Cota, Jorge L., Salvador Galindo-Uribarri, and George F. Smoot. "A brief history of gravitational waves." Universe 2.3 (2016): 22. or https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-secret-history-of-gravitational-waves Johnjbarton ( talk) 14:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Undue emphasis on religion.

The view on religion section is, IMO, too large compared to its role in Dirac's life. It is 4 times longer than the section on Honors. That seems out of whack. Johnjbarton ( talk) 22:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Helikon vortex separation process

The current article claims Dirac worked on centrifuges in 1934. This seems unlikely. We should have a citation and and explanation of the context since such work is out of context for this period of Dirac's career.

Two sources date as joining the UK Tubes project which developed the centrifuge:

  • Kragh, Helge. Dirac: a scientific biography. United Kingdom, Cambridge University Press, 1990.
  • PAUL DIRAC: THE ATOMIC CENTRIFUGE AND THE TUBE ALLOYS PROJECT By DANIEL P. VROBEL

There is comment in the Kragh book about something in "Chapter 6" which I cannot access. Johnjbarton ( talk) 16:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Reaper1945 Thanks for the ref, but I still dispute the date. The ref does not say anything about when Dirac did this work. Johnjbarton ( talk) 19:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Can someone help with the source code for harvnb references? Farmelo explains Dirac's isotope separation experiments on p.248-249, and then confirms the 1934 by saying on p.249 that "During a visit to Cambridge in May 1934, Wigner saw the apparatus and asked Dirac questions about it,". I tried to cite these two pages in the article, but my cite only shows the text of p.248 and says that p.249 is unavailable. Can someone fix this? Dirac66 ( talk) 02:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess your harvnb is not the problem. Google Books does not have the preview for Farmelo. So no content for you. No worries, Google Books links are a gift that only work sometimes.
IMO it would be great if the article could clarify why an all time genius in QM theory would be Lucasian Professor of Mathematics one year, invent an isotope separation, the cosmology? Seems like there would be a nice story even in one sentence that would explain why he would work on separation before WWII. Johnjbarton ( talk) 02:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Re harvnb I tried adding quote= after my citation and it worked (to my surprise).
And re Dirac's varied interests at Cambridge, I think most people are interested in more than one topic. Also separating an element into isotopes would have been a challenge of interest as soon as isotopes were discovered. This does not imply that he foresaw the eventual military application. Dirac66 ( talk) 23:03, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Internal links and syntax

If you have never used this tool before, I recommend it: http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/. You just type (or copy) the name of an article in the box, and Nick rummages through your article, to end up by suggesting many different internal links which you might have overlooked. Most of them are good; some are not (you have to check). Nick won't make any suggestions until the syntax of your article is correct: Usually bad syntax is caused by stray brackets or apostrophes in the copy. Nick provides you with a list of the bad apples, but then you have to seek them out. A fairly easy way is to copy the text into a word processor and then search for the stray marks there. (The new links for this article are indicated here.) Of course one must be cautious in doing so and not engage in linking just for the sake of linking. I hope this has been helpful. Again, I recommend using Nick's very valuable tool. Yours sincerely,

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2023

Fix the spelling mistakes in the last sentence of the second paragraph of the education section. Currently the sentence reads "Under the influence of Peter Fraser, whom Dirac called the best mathematics teacher, he had the most interest in prjective geometry, and began applying it to the geometrical version of relativity Minkowski developped". The words "projective" and "developed" are misspelled. Hp 1215 ( talk) 04:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

 Done AnnaMankad ( talk) 04:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023

Add to the end of relevant personal life:

A bust of Paul Dirac now resides at Florida State University near Dirac Library along with other notable figures in STEM, many of which he brought with him to Florida State. ChrisBernhardt ( talk) 04:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC) reply

I think this would fit in best in the Legacy section, but there are already several images there and it would overrun the text. This is a useful photo, but I'm not sure where it could go.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:20, 17 June 2023 (UTC) reply

 Done - added the image in the FSU section, rearranged some of the other images to prevent bunching. Polyamorph ( talk) 14:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Gravitational waves were postulated in the 19th century.

I'm removing this claim: "Dirac further postulated the existence of gravitational waves, declaring them to have "physical significance" in his 1959 lecture at the Lindau Meetings"

Gravitational waves have a long history, including postulates by Laplace and Poincare. See for example Cervantes-Cota, Jorge L., Salvador Galindo-Uribarri, and George F. Smoot. "A brief history of gravitational waves." Universe 2.3 (2016): 22. or https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-secret-history-of-gravitational-waves Johnjbarton ( talk) 14:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Undue emphasis on religion.

The view on religion section is, IMO, too large compared to its role in Dirac's life. It is 4 times longer than the section on Honors. That seems out of whack. Johnjbarton ( talk) 22:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Helikon vortex separation process

The current article claims Dirac worked on centrifuges in 1934. This seems unlikely. We should have a citation and and explanation of the context since such work is out of context for this period of Dirac's career.

Two sources date as joining the UK Tubes project which developed the centrifuge:

  • Kragh, Helge. Dirac: a scientific biography. United Kingdom, Cambridge University Press, 1990.
  • PAUL DIRAC: THE ATOMIC CENTRIFUGE AND THE TUBE ALLOYS PROJECT By DANIEL P. VROBEL

There is comment in the Kragh book about something in "Chapter 6" which I cannot access. Johnjbarton ( talk) 16:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Reaper1945 Thanks for the ref, but I still dispute the date. The ref does not say anything about when Dirac did this work. Johnjbarton ( talk) 19:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Can someone help with the source code for harvnb references? Farmelo explains Dirac's isotope separation experiments on p.248-249, and then confirms the 1934 by saying on p.249 that "During a visit to Cambridge in May 1934, Wigner saw the apparatus and asked Dirac questions about it,". I tried to cite these two pages in the article, but my cite only shows the text of p.248 and says that p.249 is unavailable. Can someone fix this? Dirac66 ( talk) 02:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess your harvnb is not the problem. Google Books does not have the preview for Farmelo. So no content for you. No worries, Google Books links are a gift that only work sometimes.
IMO it would be great if the article could clarify why an all time genius in QM theory would be Lucasian Professor of Mathematics one year, invent an isotope separation, the cosmology? Seems like there would be a nice story even in one sentence that would explain why he would work on separation before WWII. Johnjbarton ( talk) 02:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Re harvnb I tried adding quote= after my citation and it worked (to my surprise).
And re Dirac's varied interests at Cambridge, I think most people are interested in more than one topic. Also separating an element into isotopes would have been a challenge of interest as soon as isotopes were discovered. This does not imply that he foresaw the eventual military application. Dirac66 ( talk) 23:03, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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