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The section discussing Mozart's use of scatological humor as having its origin in Tourette syndrome gives undue weight to that hypothesis and Benjamin Simkin's views, which do not enjoy widespread medical consensus. See the sources at Sociological and cultural aspects of Tourette syndrome. Also, see WP:LAYOUT on the correct use of hatnotes, removing self-references to other Wiki articles, and WP:MSH (the article has duplicate and repetitive headings). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Some people really have too much time on their hands. And somebody who still believes that Spaethling presents a usable translation of Mozart's letters, cannot be wrapped too tight!-- 62.47.129.156 ( talk) 13:32, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Just saying. LOL — Rickyrab | Talk 18:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this attempt to correct the spelling and its reversal: I agree that Mozart's (lack of) use of capital letters should be preserved, but I strongly suspect that the word "macht" (English "might") ought to be changed to "nacht" ("night"). -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 07:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
This article is poorly written, POV, contains original research, uses medical sources incorrectly, and has multiple MOS issues. I have been meaning to address this for almost a year, but have been busy moving; I am rewriting it in sandbox. User:SandyGeorgia/Sandbox/Mozart and scatology SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Did what I could, done for now, but if any of the original research is added back in, I would like to see quotes from the sources placed here on talk. There is some very good material in the sources which is unexplored as yet in this article-- it is not only the TS hypothesis that is soundly refuted, but other psychiatric hypothetical diagnoses as well, with illustrative descriptions of the wit of the time associated with Mozart's scatology-- the TS hypothesis does not belong in the lead because it is so minor to the entire issue, and the other psychiatric diagnoses postulated can be equally refuted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:04, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
No matter how well-sourced this article is, I don't think it should be it's own article, rather, it should be merged into the main article on Mozart.
Afterall, do we start writing pages like this for everyone who had a controversial side? Solntsa90 ( talk) 23:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
The Thatcher anecdote should be deleted as it tells us nothing about Mozart. It's nothing but a true reflection of Thatcher's own character: her narrow-mindedness, her bigotry to the point of stupidity, her indifference to facts that contravened her prejudices.... Get her out of this article! 82.26.122.179 ( talk) 20:55, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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Seriously, it's actually wrong in so many ways ...
lezt wünsch ich eine gute nacht
scheissen sie ins bett dass es kracht
schlafens gesund
reckens den arsch zum mund
closest translation intention-wise I can come up with is:
lastly I wish you a good night
shit into your bed with vigor
have a healthy sleep
stretch that ass to the mouth
Source: Native German speaker.
german language swearing is very fecal matter centric. in the times of martin luther in the times of mozart and today. it's like a modern day american movie using the word f u c k a lot 06:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:f4:df1e:90ab:75a7:e267:37f5:e49b ( talk) 06:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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The section discussing Mozart's use of scatological humor as having its origin in Tourette syndrome gives undue weight to that hypothesis and Benjamin Simkin's views, which do not enjoy widespread medical consensus. See the sources at Sociological and cultural aspects of Tourette syndrome. Also, see WP:LAYOUT on the correct use of hatnotes, removing self-references to other Wiki articles, and WP:MSH (the article has duplicate and repetitive headings). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Some people really have too much time on their hands. And somebody who still believes that Spaethling presents a usable translation of Mozart's letters, cannot be wrapped too tight!-- 62.47.129.156 ( talk) 13:32, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Just saying. LOL — Rickyrab | Talk 18:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this attempt to correct the spelling and its reversal: I agree that Mozart's (lack of) use of capital letters should be preserved, but I strongly suspect that the word "macht" (English "might") ought to be changed to "nacht" ("night"). -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 07:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
This article is poorly written, POV, contains original research, uses medical sources incorrectly, and has multiple MOS issues. I have been meaning to address this for almost a year, but have been busy moving; I am rewriting it in sandbox. User:SandyGeorgia/Sandbox/Mozart and scatology SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Did what I could, done for now, but if any of the original research is added back in, I would like to see quotes from the sources placed here on talk. There is some very good material in the sources which is unexplored as yet in this article-- it is not only the TS hypothesis that is soundly refuted, but other psychiatric hypothetical diagnoses as well, with illustrative descriptions of the wit of the time associated with Mozart's scatology-- the TS hypothesis does not belong in the lead because it is so minor to the entire issue, and the other psychiatric diagnoses postulated can be equally refuted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:04, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
No matter how well-sourced this article is, I don't think it should be it's own article, rather, it should be merged into the main article on Mozart.
Afterall, do we start writing pages like this for everyone who had a controversial side? Solntsa90 ( talk) 23:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
The Thatcher anecdote should be deleted as it tells us nothing about Mozart. It's nothing but a true reflection of Thatcher's own character: her narrow-mindedness, her bigotry to the point of stupidity, her indifference to facts that contravened her prejudices.... Get her out of this article! 82.26.122.179 ( talk) 20:55, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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Seriously, it's actually wrong in so many ways ...
lezt wünsch ich eine gute nacht
scheissen sie ins bett dass es kracht
schlafens gesund
reckens den arsch zum mund
closest translation intention-wise I can come up with is:
lastly I wish you a good night
shit into your bed with vigor
have a healthy sleep
stretch that ass to the mouth
Source: Native German speaker.
german language swearing is very fecal matter centric. in the times of martin luther in the times of mozart and today. it's like a modern day american movie using the word f u c k a lot 06:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:f4:df1e:90ab:75a7:e267:37f5:e49b ( talk) 06:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)