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The bulk of this article's materials seems to be a list of sources claiming Jesus either was or wasn't mentally fit, but not a lot of details into the argument. Is that something we can expand upon? What evidence or clues are these sources using? For example, Binet-Sangle is quoted as saying "the nature of the hallucinations..." leads him to the conclusion of mental affliction, but what nature is he talking about? Obviously anyone who doesn't believe in divine revelation can call it a hallucination, but I assume they offer more evidence than that. 2600:8800:23A5:5D00:6837:1C32:8B39:603 ( talk) 19:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply

This article is a compilation of the sources for and against Jesus' mental disorders. If someone wants, he can expand it with a detailed argumentation. The sources are linked (full text) – especially the two main authors – Binet-Sanglé and Hirsch. Wikipek ( talk) 21:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply

@ MaxwellWinnie102: It is simply unknown how the twelve apostles died. See Talk:Apostles in the New Testament#Unexplained deletion. So neither claim is right: neither "they were martyred", nor "they weren't martyred". We simply don't know what happened to them. tgeorgescu ( talk) 06:38, 19 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Ah I did not know that. MaxwellWinnie102 ( talk) 15:29, 19 December 2021 (UTC) reply

But still it shouldn’t say it like it’s a fact. MaxwellWinnie102 ( talk) 16:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Most of the people cited in this article belonged to psychiatry before it had matured (and it still has a lot of room for growth. However, back in the early 1900s, we were closer to lobotomizing people than we were to treating them). It'd be like an article on alchemy discussing it solely through quotes of alchemists in the 1600s without the judgment of modern science. Perhaps, the title should be "The Historical Investigation of Jesus' Sanity" with pop culture being a separate section rather than laymen books being treated as serious philosophical or scientific works. Then, there could be an article on his sanity that is reserved for authoritative, modern analysis. Alternatively, the sections could be branded: Early Conjecture, Pop Culture, and Modern Analysis. To be clear, both sections suffer similar problems other than the study at Harvard, but I do suggest, given how this article is, that someone with knowledge of psychiatry read it for everyone's sake.

To understand what I'm talking about better, one linked author couldn't be found through a Google search. One was quoted from his blog. The last to mention was labeled a "lay theologian". Many of the people just mentioned have little authority on this topic unlike how the article reads now ("Mental Health of Jesus"). We're talking about outdated conjecture from before the DSM 4 or 5 had been created. A different title like "The Historical views about Jesus' sanity" could improve things. One article would be about the historical jabs and parries while the other is about the actual best guess of Jesus' mental status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.212.102 ( talk) 05:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Every reasonably clever reader knows very well that when people who were contemporaries of Jesus (relatives, other Jews) claimed that he was "mad" (J 10:20), "beside himself" (Mk 3:21), they did so on the basis of their common knowledge. 19th-century writers also did so on the basis of the knowledge available to them. 20th century psychiatrists and psychologists also did it on the basis of psychiatric and psychological knowledge of the time. The 21st century neuropsychiatrists did the same (2012). Theologians, too, could do so only on the basis of the knowledge available to them. There are not so many of these opinions to create separate sections or even articles for specific fields of knowledge or time periods. If some opinions come from, for example, the first half of the 20th century, it is well known that they are, in a sense, historical. It does not need to be emphasized too much. Wikipek ( talk) 07:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply

For the article title, see: Category:Health by individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipek ( talk • contribs) 09:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Hello, to whomever has moderation authority over entire articles,

The very nature of this page is horrifically offensive and blasphemous, and it’s existence seems unusual compared to what you would see for any other religion.

I see no articles referencing the mental health of Moses, or Abraham, or Noah, or Muhammad, or Buddha. Of course, it is always Christianity that is used as the punching bag of the bitter western intellectuals.

There is absolutely no way to give a reasonable mental evaluation of a man who lived 2,000 years ago in any capacity anyways.

The only evidence cited here are verses from the New Testament, which clearly are meant to depict the priests not fully grasping the capabilities of Jesus and not understanding where his power comes from.

Besides that, Jesus displays phenomenal levels of intelligence, religious education, common sense, and speaks in powerful and easy to understand parable and metaphors throughout the Bible. Nothing he says would lead anybody to question his psychiatric state.

The only thing you could criticize would be his claim of divinity, in which case that can be applied to all and any prophets, chosen people, divine leaders, gurus, etc. And in that case an article about religious leadership itself should be established.

But here it is specifically and only against Jesus Christ in an obvious backhanded, passive aggressive attack on Christianity specifically.

Would recommend removal of the page. 2600:1700:1EF0:9E30:468:17BB:DABB:AF2E ( talk) 08:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC) reply

This is an article about the discussion that has taken place and continues to take place about Jesus' mental health. Participants in this discussion include psychiatrists, neurologists, psychologists, philosophers, theologians, priests, journalists, and others. Arguments for and against are presented along with a detailed and comprehensive reference to the sources of information. There are many similar articles about discussions and disputes on specific topics on Wikipedia, for example: Comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany, Public image of Hugo Chávez, Macedonia (terminology), Muhammad and the Bible, New Perspective on Paul, Brothers of Jesus, Sexuality of Jesus, Sexuality of Adolf Hitler, Possible monorchism of Adolf Hitler, Psychopathography of Adolf Hitler. Wikipek ( talk) 10:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC) reply

WP:CRYBLASPHEMY.

First, "Messiah=God", "Son of God=God", and "Son of Man=God" are typical Christian misunderstandings. The Jews did not and do not believe something like that. Neither did the historical Jesus. So, he was not having the delusion that he is God Almighty. Psychiatrists who think he did don't know history.

Second, for Ancient Jews declaring themselves to the Messiah was a method of inciting riots. And the Romans knew this, too, being especially alert during Passover. So, there was nothing crazy in an apocalyptic Jew declaring himself the Messiah. tgeorgescu ( talk) 06:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Provided he didn't want to be crucified and wasn't planning on it. Because if he wanted and planned his death..... And if he thought that after death he would come back "in clouds with great power and glory"... Quote from source 4:

In advance, he explained to his followers the necessity of his death as prelude for his return (Matthew 16:21–28; Mark 8:31; John 16:16–28). If this occurred in the manner described, then Jesus appears to have deliberately placed himself in circumstances wherein he anticipated his execution.

Wikipek ( talk) 09:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC) reply