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Will this page last? cornince 1441 6 February 2005 CST

I think it is much more likely to last if the list only included people who were identified in the piece of work or by the author as being autistic. If someone was added to the list because it is the personal opinion of a Wikipedian that the person exhibited autistic traits, but was not identified as autistic in the piece of work or was not identified as autistic by any of the work's creators, then it would constitute POV and original research, which might get this page in trouble. Q0 14:45, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous user adds, June 13 2005:

It will now I edited it into 'known' and 'suspected'.

I really think the external link to fictional characters needs to be removed. The page is calling Lisa Simpson and Alex Keaton spectrumy -- this is very pop-y, and very misleading, particularly if the author is not going to list the traits he/she sees represented in each individual.

VfD results

This article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. For details, please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of fictional characters on the autistic spectrum. --  BD2412 talk 05:10, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

I removed the following content from this list:

The character of Stevie, in Joseph Conrad's novel, The Secret Agent is a classic example of an autist from fiction, showing how autism existed in the popular imagination long before Kanner named it. Stevie, though literate, is unable to work, as his absence of 'theory of mind' makes hime easily led, he is disorientated by noise and crowds (sensory overload), interprets figurative language literally, becoming highly distressed. His chief occupation is drawing circles with a pair of compasses (repetitive, stereotyped behaviour). His brother-in-law, Verloc, the secret agent of the title, exploits Stevie's vulnerability by asking him to plant a bomb, which explodes prematurely in Greenwich Park and kills him.

Clearly, Joseph did not describe the character as autistic, and I can't find any indication that there has been academic speculation of his autism. I'd be happy to have it back if some references can be provided. Pburka 20:59, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Robert Goren

Hi! I was very surpriced as Rober Goren from Law and Order, Criminal Intent, was missing from that list. I have worked years with both autistic and asperger-kids and my own 8 year old has mild asperger symptoms. One of the finest and real accurate picture of asperger that I have seen made in fictionally is Robert Goren.

≈≈≈≈ 12.8.2013≈≈≈≈K.Laine≈≈≈≈≈

Just me keeping sources from earlier talk entries from spilling into my section

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Will this page last? cornince 1441 6 February 2005 CST

I think it is much more likely to last if the list only included people who were identified in the piece of work or by the author as being autistic. If someone was added to the list because it is the personal opinion of a Wikipedian that the person exhibited autistic traits, but was not identified as autistic in the piece of work or was not identified as autistic by any of the work's creators, then it would constitute POV and original research, which might get this page in trouble. Q0 14:45, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous user adds, June 13 2005:

It will now I edited it into 'known' and 'suspected'.

I really think the external link to fictional characters needs to be removed. The page is calling Lisa Simpson and Alex Keaton spectrumy -- this is very pop-y, and very misleading, particularly if the author is not going to list the traits he/she sees represented in each individual.

VfD results

This article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. For details, please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of fictional characters on the autistic spectrum. --  BD2412 talk 05:10, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

I removed the following content from this list:

The character of Stevie, in Joseph Conrad's novel, The Secret Agent is a classic example of an autist from fiction, showing how autism existed in the popular imagination long before Kanner named it. Stevie, though literate, is unable to work, as his absence of 'theory of mind' makes hime easily led, he is disorientated by noise and crowds (sensory overload), interprets figurative language literally, becoming highly distressed. His chief occupation is drawing circles with a pair of compasses (repetitive, stereotyped behaviour). His brother-in-law, Verloc, the secret agent of the title, exploits Stevie's vulnerability by asking him to plant a bomb, which explodes prematurely in Greenwich Park and kills him.

Clearly, Joseph did not describe the character as autistic, and I can't find any indication that there has been academic speculation of his autism. I'd be happy to have it back if some references can be provided. Pburka 20:59, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Robert Goren

Hi! I was very surpriced as Rober Goren from Law and Order, Criminal Intent, was missing from that list. I have worked years with both autistic and asperger-kids and my own 8 year old has mild asperger symptoms. One of the finest and real accurate picture of asperger that I have seen made in fictionally is Robert Goren.

≈≈≈≈ 12.8.2013≈≈≈≈K.Laine≈≈≈≈≈

Just me keeping sources from earlier talk entries from spilling into my section


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