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Luthor enjoys eating cakes? Where did this come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.16.35 ( talk) 09:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Like too many Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics character entries, this suffers from an absurdly over-detailed fictography that run completely afoul of WP:CMOS#PLOT, which says in part:
plot discussions must be concise summaries, not detailed abridgements that can serve as a substitute for the reading of the actual story. Summarising should never be on a per-issue basis and should only outline the plot rather than describe minor details. Additionally, plot descriptions must include cited reference to critical analysis published in secondary sources. Editors should approach the discussion of fictional concepts within a "real world context"; this means editors should describe fictional elements in terms of how they relate to the real world, as fictional characters or topics.
I've tagged this article's "Fictional character biography", which needs to be much more concise and with real-world citations as to significance. This over-detailed, blow-by-blow biography is overwhelming and unnecessary for the general-audience reader at which Wikipedia is aimed, and verges on turning this into a fansite. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 22:16, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Would a section for "associated places" be okay? Things like his bases and other locations asscioated with him (L-Island, LexCorp, Lexor, etc).-- Amelia-the-comic-geek ( talk) 20:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Is there a secondary source that explains the name? Superman characters characteristically have their first and family names start with the same letter or phoneme (e.g., Lana Lang, Clark Kent) Lex means law. Luthor means famous soldier, more or less ( https://www.houseofnames.com/luthor-family-crest). Also, E.T.A. Hoffmann's character Lothar rings a bell. But this is just my speculation, unless someone can find material on the name's source. Kdammers ( talk) 05:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- In 1944 Lex Luthor was the first character in a comic book (and one of the first in fiction) to use an atomic bomb. The United States Department of War asked this story line be delayed from publication, which it was until 1946, to protect the secrecy of the Manhattan Project.[10]
- 10. _The Superman Files._ Matthew K. Manning (trans.). p. 91.
This is pretty dodgy. One, this is not a great source — it's not really "translated" ("translated from the original Interlac" — the conceit of the book is that Brainiac 5 wrote it). Second, I looked it up and page 91 in the edition I have (Andrews McMeel Publishing LLC, 2013) doesn't have anything about this at that page (it is about the Justice League). The entire book is "in universe," not a secondary source of any sort. I looked over the other pages and found nothing on this.
The 1945 censorship of the cyclotron comic is well-known and easy to document from real sources. This one is not. I am removing the above line until someone volunteers a better source for it. -- NuclearSecrets ( talk) 18:16, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
This is incorrect - he appeared right thought the 1940's and 1950's...
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Superman #4 (The Challenge of Luthor) Spring 1940 1940-02-15 Superman #4 (Luthor's Undersea City) Spring 1940 1940-02-15 Action Comics #23 (Europe at War) April 1940 1940-02-22 Superman #5 (Luthor's Incense Menace) Summer 1940 1940-05-10 Superman #10 (The Invisible Luthor) May/Jun 1941 1941-03-05 Superman #12 (The Beasts of Luthor) Sep/Oct 1941 1941-07-02 Superman #13 (The Light) Nov/Dec 1941 1941-08-29 Action Comics #42 (City in the Stratosphere) November 1941 1941-09-24 Action Comics #47 "Powerstone" April 1942 1942-02-18 Superman #17 "When Titans Clash" Jul/Aug 1942 1942-05-06 Superman #18 "The Heat Horror" Sep/Oct 1942 1942-07-03 Superman #20 "Superman's Secret Revealed" Jan/Feb 1943 1942-11-04 Superman #31 "Tune Up Time for Crime" Nov/Dec 1944 1944-08-30 Superman #34 "When the World Got Tired" May/Jun 1945 1945-02-28 Superman #38 "The Battle of the Atoms" Jan/Feb 1946 1945-10-31 Superman #43 "The Molten World" Nov/Dec 1946 1946-08-28 World's Finest Comics #28 "Superman's Super-Self" May/Jun 1947 1947-03-28 Superman #48 "The Man Who Stole the Sun" Sep/Oct 1947 1947-07-02 Action Comics #125 "The Modern Nostradamus" October 1948 1948-08-18 Superman #57 "The Menace of the Machine Men" Mar/Apr 1949 1948-12-31 Action Comics #131 "The Scrambled Superman" April 1949 1949-02-16 Action Comics #141 "Luthor's Secret Weapon" February 1950 1949-12-14 Action Comics #146 "The Statues That Came to Life" July 1950 1950-05-12 Action Comics #151 "Superman's Super-Magic Show" December 1950 1950-10-13 Superman #68 "The Six Elements of Crime" Jan/Feb 1951 1950-10-27 Action Comics #156 "The Girl of Steel" May 1951 1951-03-16 Superman #71 "The Man Who Stole the Oceans" Jul/Aug 1951 1951-05-04 Superman #74 "The Lost Secrets of Krypton" Jan/Feb 1952 1951-11-07 Action Comics #166 "The Three Scoops of Death" March 1952 1952-01-30 World's Finest Comics #59 "Superman's Super Hold-Up" Jul/Aug 1952 1952-05-30 Superman #79 "Citadel of Doom" Nov/Dec 1952 1952-09-10 World's Finest Comics #62 "The Seven Secrets of Superman" Jan/Feb 1953 1952-11-26 Superman #81 "Superman's Secret Workshop" Mar/Apr 1953 1953-01-14 Action Comics #183 "The Perfect Plot to Kill Superman" August 1953 1953-07-01 Superman #85 "Luthor – Hero" Nov/Dec 1953 1953-09-09 Superman #88 "The Terrible Trio" March 1954 1954-01-27 Superman #89 "One Hour to Doom" May 1954 1954-03-10 Superman #90 "The Titanic Thefts" July 1954 1954-05-05 Action Comics #199 "The Phantom Superman" December 1954 1954-10-28 Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen #5 "The Story of Superman's Souvenirs" May/Jun 1955 1955-03-17 Superman #101 "Luthor's Amazing Rebus" November 1955 1955-09-01 Action Comics #210 "Superman in Superman Land" November 1955 1955-09-29 Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #9 "The Million Dollar Question" December 1955 1955-10-13 Superman #106 "The Super-Outlaw of Metropolis" July 1956 1956-05-10 Superman #110 "The Defeat of Superman" January 1957 1956-11-06 Action Comics #226 "The Invulnerable Enemy" March 1957 1957-01-29 Superman #112 "Superman's Fatal Costume" March 1957 1957-01-29 World's Finest Comics #88 "Superman's and Batman's Greatest Foes" May/Jun 1957 1957-03-21 Action Comics #228 "Superman's Super Skyscraper" May 1957 1957-03-28 Superman #114 "The Soundproof Superman" July 1957 1957-05-09 Superboy #59 "Superboy Meets Amazing Man" September 1957 1957-07-03 Superman #117 "The Secret of Fort Superman" November 1957 1957-09-10 Action Comics #236 "Superman's New Uniform" January 1958 1957-11-27 World's Finest Comics #94 "The Origin of the Superman-Batman Team" May/Jun 1958 1958-03-25 Adventure Comics #253 "Superboy Meets Robin the Boy Wonder" October 1958 1958-08-28 Action Comics #249 "The Kryptonite Man" February 1959 1958-12-30 World's Finest Comics #100 "The Dictator of Krypton City" March 1959 1959-01-15 Action Comics #254 "The Battle with Bizarro" July 1959 1959-05-28 World's Finest Comics #104 "The Plot to Destroy Superman" September 1959 1959-07-16 Action Comics #257 "The Reporter of Steel" October 1959 1959-08-27 Action Comics #259 "The Revenge of Luthor" December 1959 1959-10-29 Superman #135 "When Lois First Suspected Clark Was Superman" February 1960 1959-12-17 |
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Luthor enjoys eating cakes? Where did this come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.16.35 ( talk) 09:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Like too many Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics character entries, this suffers from an absurdly over-detailed fictography that run completely afoul of WP:CMOS#PLOT, which says in part:
plot discussions must be concise summaries, not detailed abridgements that can serve as a substitute for the reading of the actual story. Summarising should never be on a per-issue basis and should only outline the plot rather than describe minor details. Additionally, plot descriptions must include cited reference to critical analysis published in secondary sources. Editors should approach the discussion of fictional concepts within a "real world context"; this means editors should describe fictional elements in terms of how they relate to the real world, as fictional characters or topics.
I've tagged this article's "Fictional character biography", which needs to be much more concise and with real-world citations as to significance. This over-detailed, blow-by-blow biography is overwhelming and unnecessary for the general-audience reader at which Wikipedia is aimed, and verges on turning this into a fansite. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 22:16, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Would a section for "associated places" be okay? Things like his bases and other locations asscioated with him (L-Island, LexCorp, Lexor, etc).-- Amelia-the-comic-geek ( talk) 20:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Is there a secondary source that explains the name? Superman characters characteristically have their first and family names start with the same letter or phoneme (e.g., Lana Lang, Clark Kent) Lex means law. Luthor means famous soldier, more or less ( https://www.houseofnames.com/luthor-family-crest). Also, E.T.A. Hoffmann's character Lothar rings a bell. But this is just my speculation, unless someone can find material on the name's source. Kdammers ( talk) 05:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- In 1944 Lex Luthor was the first character in a comic book (and one of the first in fiction) to use an atomic bomb. The United States Department of War asked this story line be delayed from publication, which it was until 1946, to protect the secrecy of the Manhattan Project.[10]
- 10. _The Superman Files._ Matthew K. Manning (trans.). p. 91.
This is pretty dodgy. One, this is not a great source — it's not really "translated" ("translated from the original Interlac" — the conceit of the book is that Brainiac 5 wrote it). Second, I looked it up and page 91 in the edition I have (Andrews McMeel Publishing LLC, 2013) doesn't have anything about this at that page (it is about the Justice League). The entire book is "in universe," not a secondary source of any sort. I looked over the other pages and found nothing on this.
The 1945 censorship of the cyclotron comic is well-known and easy to document from real sources. This one is not. I am removing the above line until someone volunteers a better source for it. -- NuclearSecrets ( talk) 18:16, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
This is incorrect - he appeared right thought the 1940's and 1950's...
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Superman #4 (The Challenge of Luthor) Spring 1940 1940-02-15 Superman #4 (Luthor's Undersea City) Spring 1940 1940-02-15 Action Comics #23 (Europe at War) April 1940 1940-02-22 Superman #5 (Luthor's Incense Menace) Summer 1940 1940-05-10 Superman #10 (The Invisible Luthor) May/Jun 1941 1941-03-05 Superman #12 (The Beasts of Luthor) Sep/Oct 1941 1941-07-02 Superman #13 (The Light) Nov/Dec 1941 1941-08-29 Action Comics #42 (City in the Stratosphere) November 1941 1941-09-24 Action Comics #47 "Powerstone" April 1942 1942-02-18 Superman #17 "When Titans Clash" Jul/Aug 1942 1942-05-06 Superman #18 "The Heat Horror" Sep/Oct 1942 1942-07-03 Superman #20 "Superman's Secret Revealed" Jan/Feb 1943 1942-11-04 Superman #31 "Tune Up Time for Crime" Nov/Dec 1944 1944-08-30 Superman #34 "When the World Got Tired" May/Jun 1945 1945-02-28 Superman #38 "The Battle of the Atoms" Jan/Feb 1946 1945-10-31 Superman #43 "The Molten World" Nov/Dec 1946 1946-08-28 World's Finest Comics #28 "Superman's Super-Self" May/Jun 1947 1947-03-28 Superman #48 "The Man Who Stole the Sun" Sep/Oct 1947 1947-07-02 Action Comics #125 "The Modern Nostradamus" October 1948 1948-08-18 Superman #57 "The Menace of the Machine Men" Mar/Apr 1949 1948-12-31 Action Comics #131 "The Scrambled Superman" April 1949 1949-02-16 Action Comics #141 "Luthor's Secret Weapon" February 1950 1949-12-14 Action Comics #146 "The Statues That Came to Life" July 1950 1950-05-12 Action Comics #151 "Superman's Super-Magic Show" December 1950 1950-10-13 Superman #68 "The Six Elements of Crime" Jan/Feb 1951 1950-10-27 Action Comics #156 "The Girl of Steel" May 1951 1951-03-16 Superman #71 "The Man Who Stole the Oceans" Jul/Aug 1951 1951-05-04 Superman #74 "The Lost Secrets of Krypton" Jan/Feb 1952 1951-11-07 Action Comics #166 "The Three Scoops of Death" March 1952 1952-01-30 World's Finest Comics #59 "Superman's Super Hold-Up" Jul/Aug 1952 1952-05-30 Superman #79 "Citadel of Doom" Nov/Dec 1952 1952-09-10 World's Finest Comics #62 "The Seven Secrets of Superman" Jan/Feb 1953 1952-11-26 Superman #81 "Superman's Secret Workshop" Mar/Apr 1953 1953-01-14 Action Comics #183 "The Perfect Plot to Kill Superman" August 1953 1953-07-01 Superman #85 "Luthor – Hero" Nov/Dec 1953 1953-09-09 Superman #88 "The Terrible Trio" March 1954 1954-01-27 Superman #89 "One Hour to Doom" May 1954 1954-03-10 Superman #90 "The Titanic Thefts" July 1954 1954-05-05 Action Comics #199 "The Phantom Superman" December 1954 1954-10-28 Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen #5 "The Story of Superman's Souvenirs" May/Jun 1955 1955-03-17 Superman #101 "Luthor's Amazing Rebus" November 1955 1955-09-01 Action Comics #210 "Superman in Superman Land" November 1955 1955-09-29 Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #9 "The Million Dollar Question" December 1955 1955-10-13 Superman #106 "The Super-Outlaw of Metropolis" July 1956 1956-05-10 Superman #110 "The Defeat of Superman" January 1957 1956-11-06 Action Comics #226 "The Invulnerable Enemy" March 1957 1957-01-29 Superman #112 "Superman's Fatal Costume" March 1957 1957-01-29 World's Finest Comics #88 "Superman's and Batman's Greatest Foes" May/Jun 1957 1957-03-21 Action Comics #228 "Superman's Super Skyscraper" May 1957 1957-03-28 Superman #114 "The Soundproof Superman" July 1957 1957-05-09 Superboy #59 "Superboy Meets Amazing Man" September 1957 1957-07-03 Superman #117 "The Secret of Fort Superman" November 1957 1957-09-10 Action Comics #236 "Superman's New Uniform" January 1958 1957-11-27 World's Finest Comics #94 "The Origin of the Superman-Batman Team" May/Jun 1958 1958-03-25 Adventure Comics #253 "Superboy Meets Robin the Boy Wonder" October 1958 1958-08-28 Action Comics #249 "The Kryptonite Man" February 1959 1958-12-30 World's Finest Comics #100 "The Dictator of Krypton City" March 1959 1959-01-15 Action Comics #254 "The Battle with Bizarro" July 1959 1959-05-28 World's Finest Comics #104 "The Plot to Destroy Superman" September 1959 1959-07-16 Action Comics #257 "The Reporter of Steel" October 1959 1959-08-27 Action Comics #259 "The Revenge of Luthor" December 1959 1959-10-29 Superman #135 "When Lois First Suspected Clark Was Superman" February 1960 1959-12-17 |
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