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You have done good work FF! :) ~ty ( talk) 17:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC) reply

I am a volunteer (student member - paid) for ISSTD specifically looking at updating the Wikipedia entry. I am part of a small working group on this matter. We are looking at other professional organisations pages and seeking ISSTD board approval for proposed changes resembling other similar pages. Significant changes will be an ISSTD approved process. We understand that there have been conflicting views of the work of ISSTD and its members since the 1980's. These updates are not intended to rebut the hostility or to silence critics. I notice that a significant edit was made by an editor who only made changes to this page on one day and has not been seen on Wikipedia again. All were criticisms, and quite dated. There are criticisms that use a single source but list its chapters separately and so it appears that there are several unique citations when there are not.

I appreciatte the bias and wish it to be known that i have an interest in the ISSTD and am making edits on their behalf.

Advice and cautions from more experienced editors are welcome.

Should i be using the sandtray to prepare major edits?

many thanks Gljsalkj ( talk) 11:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Alerting WP:FTN. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 11:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Gljsalkj:, when you remove souced information from an article, you should provide at least an informative edit summary stating why the source used is questioned. Edit summaries such as "grammer" or "moved to top of page for context rather than leaving at the bottom" do not let other editors know why a source or the information it supports is being removed. Even better, please state specifically which sources you think are not up to snuff and why here on this talk page. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Ah! i did not notice changes happening to the citations. Should we roll it back and i have another go? I thought i was just repositioning chunks of text in the page without changing or emoving any content. The "grammer" edit was a mispelling. Very much a novice editor here Gljsalkj ( talk) 22:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Gljsalkj:, I have already rolled it back to prior to your changes. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I have rewritten and restructured the article. Here is a structured and detailed list of changes made to the page as per my comment regarding my revision. I was unable to add links to archived conference proceedings, so eventually I will request that they be allowed through the spam filter (ISSD(.)org was blocked.) Update: I have requested that the links be allowed through the filter here, so we will see. If not, I can upload PDFs if that works too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lefthandedlion ( talk • contribs) 04:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Intro/preamble: I have added a note under the intro to add context that while the organization exists as a professional nonprofit and does not completely exist as a fringe organization, significant controversies exist regarding the organization and regarding its promoted fringe beliefs and practices. I have noted that these claims are unfounded as per WP: FRINGE, added a few refuting sources and I do this several times throughout the article in accordance with WP: GEVAL.

Profile: I have removed an unsourced section regarding the name change of DID. I think it is fairly clear that the name changes of DID correspond to the name changes of the organization and moreover, it is tangentially related to the organization article. I have changed the organization of the profile section to start with its founding and then move towards its expansion of focus. I have added criticisms of the published guidelines, yet maintained the original text correctly noting that they are often referenced as per WP: FRINGE/QS. I have added a section regarding the ISSTD’s current programming and training offerings for a more holistic understanding of the organization’s purview.

Criticisms and controversies: The criticisms and controversies regarding this organization are lengthy, and make up a substantial portion of the article. I have started the section with existing text, leaving it as a preamble and divided the section into subcategories for readability. This section could have been much longer, but for brevity’s sake, I have combined several years of happenings into intervals. I included the amount I did plus the historical background to indicate that the fringe beliefs have been expressed from the 1980s onward into recent history. I have removed brief sections that do not in fact, reflect controversial ideas. I have also removed some sections which reflect opinions or speculation. If anybody believes this section is too long and could be condensed further, I invite you to discuss it here.

History: I have added more information regarding the founding of the organization, its name changes and original co-sponsor. ~LHL Lefthandedlion ( talk) 21:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hope Wikipedia solves its pedo problem someday 2601:601:703:3D70:3754:F187:D8F6:FB67 ( talk) 09:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply