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Can someone note in the article how do we pronounce this disease? -- Sav_vas ( talk) 10:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The link to the Center for Non-proliferation in reference 29 doesn't work when I click it through my browser. It currently points to http://cns.miis.edu/cbw/possess.htm which is identical to what I get when I Google the title of the reference but it doesn't work straight from Wiki. I think I'll go through the document myself and expand the BW section using the CNPO article's references as base over the next week or so if there's no other interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.19.228 ( talk) 12:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2903258. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Maralia ( talk) 15:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Have removed this text again [1]. The source [2] is not really reliable as it contradicts more reliable sources such as this 2013 review [3] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
There first reference is to Wikipedia. This disqualifies it as a reliable source for disease related content. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
First i would like to tell you all that the content i added is only to mention the fact that how in India, government is trying to manage chikungunya using traditional medicine which is exactly given in the pdf link. Sathishmls ( talk) 02:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I have added the modified content. Please do not blank the section. Sathishmls ( talk) 03:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Till now you were saying this is not a reliable source. Now you have accepted because you know that you cannot block a nation-wide fact. Now you are trying to put the content to some place in the article to make it negligible and unrelated. Please do not do this. Sathishmls ( talk) 01:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I would call this a medical claim "are used to combat pyrexial and post-pyrexial states of Chikungunya" and thus would require a proper medical ref.
Doc James (
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I have nothing added on my own. I have added the same lines given in the document prepared by the Chief Doctors and Directors of India. In the same document, the statistics is also given with details of treatment. There is nothing to discuss about your personal thoughts here.
Sathishmls (
talk) 01:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little late to this party(just got interested from reading the DRN case filing), but I don't see how this source can possibly meet MEDRS. Besides the concerns with methodology that have already been raised in this thread, in the clinical trials it describes, the patients are never confirmed to have Chikungunya at all, they are simply screened based on symptoms and the source describes them as "probable cases of Chikungunya". Surely to know if a treatment works for an ailment, the patients you are treating must actually have that ailment? And perhaps this is due to a language barrier, but it appears that the clinical criteria they were using to diagnose Chikungunya were inconsistent and varied based on locale, not to mention very vague as well. Jonathanfu ( talk) 17:50, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Sathishmls the compromise suggested by Doc James on 18/Jan sounds fair to me. Move it to the "society and culture" section. When the findings of our Indian doctors are accepted by their peers as an option, it can move to the "Treatment section. Prodigyhk ( talk) 12:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The pdf document is a peer reviewed and it is done by the Review Board consists of the Indian Council of Medical Research (The Apex body in India for the Formulation, Coordination and Promotion of Biomedical Research), Ministry of Health and Family Welfare (The Authority for setting of standards for drugs, pharmaceuticals and healthcare devices and technologies in India]] and National Institute of Virology (Designated as WHO H5 reference Laboratory for SE Asia region)
Please check WhatamIdoing summary at dispute page, which confirms that the content is well suited for the Treatment section. Sathishmls ( talk) 07:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I have never seen a journal with an impact factor of zero before [6] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
This sentence seems broken. Does anyone know what it should say?
Long-term symptoms are not completely a recent observation with long-term arthritis observed following an outbreak in 1979.
Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
I think that's what was meant, can;t access the cited article Cannolis ( talk) 15:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Long-term symptoms are not an entirely new observation; long-term arthritis was observed following an outbreak in 1979.
I see we also have an article on Chikungunya outbreaks. I put a link to that article into this one as a "See also" because previously it did not seemed to be linked in this one. I am not an expert on how to work on disease articles, but I added info on reports from another two Caribbean islands to the other article. I see there is some info on Caribbean outbreaks in the Epidemiology section here so I added to that also, but is that a mistake? Should the second article be linked as a hat note in an "Outbreaks" subsection of the Epidemiology section so that more info of that nature is not added to this article? What do you think Doc James? (Also as someone previously suggested, can we have a note on how to pronounce the name?) Thanks, Invertzoo ( talk) 13:08, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
can be found here. Not sure if it can be uploaded though. Ian Furst ( talk) 12:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
We have had a few cases in Massachusetts. It's those who catch it down south and come up here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6:7700:3A3:7DF6:E28F:E993:D19B ( talk) 19:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I expanded the External Links section a bit today. But I've just learned that it's best to exclude ELs which "[can] be integrated into the Wikipedia article" as it says in #3 of ELYES. Two of those links (NPR and Reuters) might meet that criteria. I'd like to try to incorporate information from those sources into the article and make those links citations instead. Meanwhile, I've moved those links to Further Reading for now. Hope that's ok, and hope it helps. :) Msannakoval ( talk) 21:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
. . .
Sigh.
Why are the introductory paragraphs focusing on the "US" ?
This is a global enyclopedia, and should not be US-centric, unless the article is actually about something that mostly concerns the US.
According to WHO, the virus is hitting other parts of the world much harder than the United States. http://www.who.int/denguecontrol/arbo-viral/other_arboviral_chikungunya/en/
Avaiki ( talk) 04:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
. . .
In the Celebrities section, it states that "Lindsay Lohan was hospitalized for contracting Chikungunya. Most people filed this news under: 'No one cares.' " While I may share the sentiment, it seems a bit counterproductive to the wiki to include what appears to be a statement of opinion not backed by references to sources, statistics, or evidence. I recommend the bold statement's removal, and it may help to include specific dates and locations. 71.246.41.50 ( talk) 02:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
NEJM doi:10.1056/NEJMra1406035 JFW | T@lk 10:34, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Can we move the outbreak list to the outbreaks /info/en/?search=Chikungunya_outbreaks page? Right now the article has a very unwieldy epidemiology section.
Mjbailey ( talk) 18:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The virus doi:10.1016/S1473-3099(16)30385-1 JFW | T@lk 14:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm doing some updating on this article -- Chikungunya has hit the big time since some of this material was written. I'm pulling a bit of info out of the article that I don't see in more recent sources and stashing it here for a moment. If I find it in other more recent sources I'll add it back:
Stashing info here
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These initial symptoms last around a week, after which there is a "convalescent stage" where symptoms improve for around ten days and the virus cannot be detected in the blood. [1] |
Ajpolino ( talk) 03:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 September 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Calebboudreau.
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This
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content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: |
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Ideal sources for Wikipedia's health content are defined in the guideline
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically
review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about Chikungunya.
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Can someone note in the article how do we pronounce this disease? -- Sav_vas ( talk) 10:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The link to the Center for Non-proliferation in reference 29 doesn't work when I click it through my browser. It currently points to http://cns.miis.edu/cbw/possess.htm which is identical to what I get when I Google the title of the reference but it doesn't work straight from Wiki. I think I'll go through the document myself and expand the BW section using the CNPO article's references as base over the next week or so if there's no other interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.19.228 ( talk) 12:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2903258. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Maralia ( talk) 15:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Have removed this text again [1]. The source [2] is not really reliable as it contradicts more reliable sources such as this 2013 review [3] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
There first reference is to Wikipedia. This disqualifies it as a reliable source for disease related content. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
First i would like to tell you all that the content i added is only to mention the fact that how in India, government is trying to manage chikungunya using traditional medicine which is exactly given in the pdf link. Sathishmls ( talk) 02:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I have added the modified content. Please do not blank the section. Sathishmls ( talk) 03:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Till now you were saying this is not a reliable source. Now you have accepted because you know that you cannot block a nation-wide fact. Now you are trying to put the content to some place in the article to make it negligible and unrelated. Please do not do this. Sathishmls ( talk) 01:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I would call this a medical claim "are used to combat pyrexial and post-pyrexial states of Chikungunya" and thus would require a proper medical ref.
Doc James (
talk ·
contribs ·
email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I have nothing added on my own. I have added the same lines given in the document prepared by the Chief Doctors and Directors of India. In the same document, the statistics is also given with details of treatment. There is nothing to discuss about your personal thoughts here.
Sathishmls (
talk) 01:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little late to this party(just got interested from reading the DRN case filing), but I don't see how this source can possibly meet MEDRS. Besides the concerns with methodology that have already been raised in this thread, in the clinical trials it describes, the patients are never confirmed to have Chikungunya at all, they are simply screened based on symptoms and the source describes them as "probable cases of Chikungunya". Surely to know if a treatment works for an ailment, the patients you are treating must actually have that ailment? And perhaps this is due to a language barrier, but it appears that the clinical criteria they were using to diagnose Chikungunya were inconsistent and varied based on locale, not to mention very vague as well. Jonathanfu ( talk) 17:50, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Sathishmls the compromise suggested by Doc James on 18/Jan sounds fair to me. Move it to the "society and culture" section. When the findings of our Indian doctors are accepted by their peers as an option, it can move to the "Treatment section. Prodigyhk ( talk) 12:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The pdf document is a peer reviewed and it is done by the Review Board consists of the Indian Council of Medical Research (The Apex body in India for the Formulation, Coordination and Promotion of Biomedical Research), Ministry of Health and Family Welfare (The Authority for setting of standards for drugs, pharmaceuticals and healthcare devices and technologies in India]] and National Institute of Virology (Designated as WHO H5 reference Laboratory for SE Asia region)
Please check WhatamIdoing summary at dispute page, which confirms that the content is well suited for the Treatment section. Sathishmls ( talk) 07:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I have never seen a journal with an impact factor of zero before [6] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
This sentence seems broken. Does anyone know what it should say?
Long-term symptoms are not completely a recent observation with long-term arthritis observed following an outbreak in 1979.
Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
I think that's what was meant, can;t access the cited article Cannolis ( talk) 15:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Long-term symptoms are not an entirely new observation; long-term arthritis was observed following an outbreak in 1979.
I see we also have an article on Chikungunya outbreaks. I put a link to that article into this one as a "See also" because previously it did not seemed to be linked in this one. I am not an expert on how to work on disease articles, but I added info on reports from another two Caribbean islands to the other article. I see there is some info on Caribbean outbreaks in the Epidemiology section here so I added to that also, but is that a mistake? Should the second article be linked as a hat note in an "Outbreaks" subsection of the Epidemiology section so that more info of that nature is not added to this article? What do you think Doc James? (Also as someone previously suggested, can we have a note on how to pronounce the name?) Thanks, Invertzoo ( talk) 13:08, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
can be found here. Not sure if it can be uploaded though. Ian Furst ( talk) 12:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
We have had a few cases in Massachusetts. It's those who catch it down south and come up here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6:7700:3A3:7DF6:E28F:E993:D19B ( talk) 19:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I expanded the External Links section a bit today. But I've just learned that it's best to exclude ELs which "[can] be integrated into the Wikipedia article" as it says in #3 of ELYES. Two of those links (NPR and Reuters) might meet that criteria. I'd like to try to incorporate information from those sources into the article and make those links citations instead. Meanwhile, I've moved those links to Further Reading for now. Hope that's ok, and hope it helps. :) Msannakoval ( talk) 21:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
. . .
Sigh.
Why are the introductory paragraphs focusing on the "US" ?
This is a global enyclopedia, and should not be US-centric, unless the article is actually about something that mostly concerns the US.
According to WHO, the virus is hitting other parts of the world much harder than the United States. http://www.who.int/denguecontrol/arbo-viral/other_arboviral_chikungunya/en/
Avaiki ( talk) 04:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
. . .
In the Celebrities section, it states that "Lindsay Lohan was hospitalized for contracting Chikungunya. Most people filed this news under: 'No one cares.' " While I may share the sentiment, it seems a bit counterproductive to the wiki to include what appears to be a statement of opinion not backed by references to sources, statistics, or evidence. I recommend the bold statement's removal, and it may help to include specific dates and locations. 71.246.41.50 ( talk) 02:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
NEJM doi:10.1056/NEJMra1406035 JFW | T@lk 10:34, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Can we move the outbreak list to the outbreaks /info/en/?search=Chikungunya_outbreaks page? Right now the article has a very unwieldy epidemiology section.
Mjbailey ( talk) 18:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The virus doi:10.1016/S1473-3099(16)30385-1 JFW | T@lk 14:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm doing some updating on this article -- Chikungunya has hit the big time since some of this material was written. I'm pulling a bit of info out of the article that I don't see in more recent sources and stashing it here for a moment. If I find it in other more recent sources I'll add it back:
Stashing info here
|
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These initial symptoms last around a week, after which there is a "convalescent stage" where symptoms improve for around ten days and the virus cannot be detected in the blood. [1] |
Ajpolino ( talk) 03:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 September 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Calebboudreau.
— Assignment last updated by Calebboudreau ( talk) 14:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)