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Did you know... that Cheekface announced their third album via postcards sent to fans?
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The result was: promoted by
LordPeterII (
talk) 18:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)reply
... that Cheekface(pictured) announced their third album via postcards sent to fans? Source:
Schonfeld 2022: "In late July, Greg Katz, the lead singer of Cheekface, mailed identical postcards to fans who had bought merch from the Los Angeles indie-rock trio. On one side was an announcement of a new record, which would be surprise-released Aug. 2. 'Depending on when you are reading this, our new album Too Much to Ask is out now, or it's about to come out,'"
ALT1: ... that before choosing their name, the band Cheekface(pictured) considered calling themselves Ryan Gosling's Huge Freakin' Delts? Source:
Schonfeld 2022: "They considered names such as Plumping and Ryan Gosling's Huge Freakin' Delts before settling on Cheekface."
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
Hi there, I'll be reviewing this article. From a quick readthrough I don't see any glaring issues; I would be concerned about notability if it weren't for the Alternative Press profile. I anticipate completing this by Monday.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 14:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
A few minor points, and one blatant grammatical issue. Nothing that can't be fixed easily.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Nothing here that would be a GA concern. FA reviewers might nitpick some things, but that's beyond my scope here as GA reviewer.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
All sources are reliable, predominantly reputable online music publications. Checked
WP:RSP and none came up as unreliable.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Since it supports so much of the article, I gave reference 3 (Alternative Press) a read (interesting article!) and confirmed it backs up everything cited to it. Ditto for reference 7. I'd do a more formal spotcheck for a longer article, but for this one I believe this is sufficient.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Earwig check came back clean, and there are no offline sources. I also took a read of reference 3, which supports much of the article, and confirmed no copying or close paraphrasing.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm being a bit nitpicky here, but there's almost no coverage of any of the band's songs, and several references (3 and 7 are ones I checked) do discuss them. I think key singles should at least get a brief mention.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Article gives a proper encyclopedic overview of the band without getting bogged down in detail. If anything, it could be expanded a bit more.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status!
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
Prose comments
Cheekface formed in Los Angeles in 2017 with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with Edwards from the city's music scene. Either change to "with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with from the city's music scene" or split this into two sentences. This isn't grammatically correct as written.
While not expecting an enthusiastic response to their music, in 2019 while playing a set at The Satellite in Los Angeles, Katz was startled when a small group of attendees sang along to every word in one of the band's tracks, temporarily causing him to forget his own lyrics for several lines. This is a run-on sentence; please either use a semicolon or split it into two sentences for better readability.
In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., and later in the year they released an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'. Suggest shortening as "In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., followed by an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'."
Be consistent about including or not including the period in "Emphatically No.", you don't use it in the sentence after you introduce the album.
In August 2022 the band released their third album, Too Much to Ask, after announcing it only to fans via postcards sent the month before. This is rather awkwardly written, try "In August 2022, after teasing the album to fans via postcards, the band released their third album Too Much to Ask."
In a 2022 review, Chris Deville compared Who is Chris Deville? Previously, you mention that Zach Schonfeld was covering the band for Alternative Press, so you should mention Deville was writing in Stereogum.
The discography section doesn't give any distinctions between full albums, EPs, and the live album. Suggest adding some basic information about each album for the table beyond just release date. At minimum, distinguish between LPs, EPs, and the live album. Also, I don't see any singles listed, should those be included?
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 22:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Having read through reference 3, I would like to see the article expanded a bit more. That source talks about the band's singles, which largely aren't covered in the Wikipedia article.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for this review
Trainsandotherthings! I'm still working through the comments but should be able to finish addressing them sometime this week. I think most everything is done now except adding text about singles and reformatting the discography section. —
Collintc 14:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for letting me know. Give me a ping when you're all done.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 14:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Hey
Trainsandotherthings! I believe I've addressed all these points but do let me know if there's anything else that could be improved. Thanks again for the review. —
Collintc 20:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A fact from Cheekface appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 October 2022 (
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Did you know... that Cheekface announced their third album via postcards sent to fans?
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The result was: promoted by
LordPeterII (
talk) 18:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)reply
... that Cheekface(pictured) announced their third album via postcards sent to fans? Source:
Schonfeld 2022: "In late July, Greg Katz, the lead singer of Cheekface, mailed identical postcards to fans who had bought merch from the Los Angeles indie-rock trio. On one side was an announcement of a new record, which would be surprise-released Aug. 2. 'Depending on when you are reading this, our new album Too Much to Ask is out now, or it's about to come out,'"
ALT1: ... that before choosing their name, the band Cheekface(pictured) considered calling themselves Ryan Gosling's Huge Freakin' Delts? Source:
Schonfeld 2022: "They considered names such as Plumping and Ryan Gosling's Huge Freakin' Delts before settling on Cheekface."
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
Hi there, I'll be reviewing this article. From a quick readthrough I don't see any glaring issues; I would be concerned about notability if it weren't for the Alternative Press profile. I anticipate completing this by Monday.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 14:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
A few minor points, and one blatant grammatical issue. Nothing that can't be fixed easily.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Nothing here that would be a GA concern. FA reviewers might nitpick some things, but that's beyond my scope here as GA reviewer.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
All sources are reliable, predominantly reputable online music publications. Checked
WP:RSP and none came up as unreliable.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 15:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Since it supports so much of the article, I gave reference 3 (Alternative Press) a read (interesting article!) and confirmed it backs up everything cited to it. Ditto for reference 7. I'd do a more formal spotcheck for a longer article, but for this one I believe this is sufficient.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Earwig check came back clean, and there are no offline sources. I also took a read of reference 3, which supports much of the article, and confirmed no copying or close paraphrasing.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm being a bit nitpicky here, but there's almost no coverage of any of the band's songs, and several references (3 and 7 are ones I checked) do discuss them. I think key singles should at least get a brief mention.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Article gives a proper encyclopedic overview of the band without getting bogged down in detail. If anything, it could be expanded a bit more.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Placing on hold so the nominator has time to address my comments. This is close to GA status!
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
Prose comments
Cheekface formed in Los Angeles in 2017 with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with Edwards from the city's music scene. Either change to "with the recruitment of Edwards, whom Katz was familiar with from the city's music scene" or split this into two sentences. This isn't grammatically correct as written.
While not expecting an enthusiastic response to their music, in 2019 while playing a set at The Satellite in Los Angeles, Katz was startled when a small group of attendees sang along to every word in one of the band's tracks, temporarily causing him to forget his own lyrics for several lines. This is a run-on sentence; please either use a semicolon or split it into two sentences for better readability.
In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., and later in the year they released an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'. Suggest shortening as "In January 2021, the band released its second album, Emphatically No., followed by an EP of B-sides from that record, titled Emphatically Mo'."
Be consistent about including or not including the period in "Emphatically No.", you don't use it in the sentence after you introduce the album.
In August 2022 the band released their third album, Too Much to Ask, after announcing it only to fans via postcards sent the month before. This is rather awkwardly written, try "In August 2022, after teasing the album to fans via postcards, the band released their third album Too Much to Ask."
In a 2022 review, Chris Deville compared Who is Chris Deville? Previously, you mention that Zach Schonfeld was covering the band for Alternative Press, so you should mention Deville was writing in Stereogum.
The discography section doesn't give any distinctions between full albums, EPs, and the live album. Suggest adding some basic information about each album for the table beyond just release date. At minimum, distinguish between LPs, EPs, and the live album. Also, I don't see any singles listed, should those be included?
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 22:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Having read through reference 3, I would like to see the article expanded a bit more. That source talks about the band's singles, which largely aren't covered in the Wikipedia article.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 23:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for this review
Trainsandotherthings! I'm still working through the comments but should be able to finish addressing them sometime this week. I think most everything is done now except adding text about singles and reformatting the discography section. —
Collintc 14:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for letting me know. Give me a ping when you're all done.
Trainsandotherthings (
talk) 14:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Hey
Trainsandotherthings! I believe I've addressed all these points but do let me know if there's anything else that could be improved. Thanks again for the review. —
Collintc 20:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.