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Where does it explain what bronchitis actually is in a way that most people understand? Is it a viral/bacterial infection? Is it something else? Does the inflammation make you open to these, or is one a by-product of the rest? SOMEBODY HELP!!!!!
Also, why is most of the stuff repeated??? PLease improve the quality of this article. 2.98.225.116 ( talk) 20:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I am only a second year science student so I am hesitant to edit this article. However from my understanding it is a common misconception that the overuse of antibiotics causes antibiotic resistant bacteria. Think about it. If you are prescribed antibiotics for a bacterial bronchitis and you have viral bronchitis, you lack the bacterium that causes bronchitis, so it can’t mutate to become antibiotic resistant as it doesn’t exist in your system. The real cause of antibiotic resistant bacteria is when people don’t finish all of their antibiotics as prescribed. If you are prescribed 10 days worth and you stop taking them at 5 days, because you start feeling better, you still have some bacteria which caused your illness that survives. That bacteria will mutate and become antibiotic resistant. So I think this article needs to be fixed to say that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.96.66 ( talk) 18:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I am jjjgoing to take off the line in the "references" portion of the article that says "It often leads to a sudden, violent death", because this doesn't seem to be a reference. csieb2011 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC).
I need to know if at anytime Chronic Bronchitis can become contagious. I live in a house with a 2 month old baby and he just got over RSV. At the time he contracted RSV I had Chronic Bronchitis flare-up. Could I have been the cause of it?-- 70.210.254.122 ( talk) 21:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
My 16 month old son who recently started going to child care came down with Bronchialitis (as diagnosed by an experienced doctor). Then I got it a week later (after having a mild flu).
I think the viral and bacterial Bronchitis is contagious. I feel like a living test subject! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.112.41 ( talk) 05:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
The article listed two conflicting definitions of chronic bronchitis (symptoms over 2 vs 3 years). I've reconciled the two definitions to point to '2 years', in accordance to a report I found and referenced at the CDC. That report though referenced other documents as part of its definition, so perhaps the original source would be a better reference? - William McVey, Oct 21, 2009
"is characterized by the presence of the grim reaper seriously??? Was This added as a joke-- someone fix please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.54.89 ( talk) 20:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I have removed portions of this article which seem to have been copied from Kidshealth.org.
Shijaz ( talk) 07:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
In an effort to improve the quality of this article, I think we would find it beneficial to add a main picture to the article. Perhaps we could add a diagram of how Bronchitis affects the lungs. Please feel free to express your thoughts. If you think I should find a picture and upload it, I would be more than happy to do so. Tyrol5 [Talk] 17:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
It is proposed that Bronchitis be part of the trial of a new template; see the green strip at the top of Pain where it has been in place for a couple of months. The purpose of this project is to encourage readers to edit, while equipping them with the basic tools. If you perceive a problem with this, or have any suggestions for improvement, please discuss at the project talk page -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 09:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC).
A doctor I saw after seven full days of being sick diagnosed bronchitis and ordered a chest x-ray. I was given clarithromycin 500 mg 2x/day for "underlying illness." I'm also using antibacterial lozenges and mouthwash because my most severe symptom is sore throat, at times reaching about 6 out of 10 on the pain scale. So it seems that the prohibition on prescribing antibiotics and antibacterials for bronchitis is not universal, and perhaps the article should reflect that. 66.49.178.132 ( talk) 19:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
[1] not great quality source, but often you have to compromise for the history section. lesion ( talk) 06:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
(moved from article.) This whole damn article is too complex some people can't understand these terms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.212.96 ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 29 January 2013
I added some external links to medlineplus & the mayo clinic, which should help people looking for a non-technical treatment summary. This is one of the most highly-trafficked medical articles on Wikipedia, per WP:5000 -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 18:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
These are two completely different conditions. It does not make sense to discuss them together. Propose we cut this article short and just provide a brief overview of the two in separate section and than provide links to the main articles. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:21, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Infections or lung irritants cause acute bronchitis ( http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/brnchi/causes.html). However I am having a hard time to find some literature on this? Richiez ( talk) 22:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
"In 2013, it resulted in 2.9 million deaths, up from 2.4 million deaths in 1990" This makes it sound as if it has become more widespread, while in reality world population grew much more than that in the same period. Ibmua ( talk) 13:11, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
"Bronchial wall thickening, as can be seen on CT scan, generally (but not always) impies inflammation of the bronchi. [1] Normally, the ratio of the bronchial wall thickness and the bronchial diameter is between 0.17 and 0.23. [2]"
This is not used in diagnosis? Last think we want to imply is that those with bronchitis should request a CT. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Not sure what is wrong with "Most people with chronic bronchitis have chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)."?
Not all of them do by the way, just most of them. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 23:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
User:Iztwoz what text in the reference Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine supported your word change? I assume you pulled the textbook and read that section? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 07:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Lets go through the NIH source you have used to try to say "Chronic bronchitis is a type of COPD". The source says [3]:
"Chronic bronchitis is an ongoing cough that lasts for several months and comes back two or more years in a row."
"Chronic bronchitis is often part of a serious condition called chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)."
Yes both of these statements are correct and consistent with the rest of the literature and neither one says it is a type of COPD. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
For "Chronic bronchitis is a component of COPD."Petty, TL (2006). "The history of COPD". International journal of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. 1 (1): 3–14. PMID 18046898."
It would support that it was a component but we already say that.
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 08:15, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
This is no longer true. MESH is from 2002.
https://meshb.nlm.nih.gov/record/ui?ui=D029481
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Someone is simply using the old terminology!? Is this someone the person responsible for making 8.6 million diagnoses of Chronic bronchitis in 2016 in America?-- Iztwoz ( talk) 10:15, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
That is so wrong. Chronic bronchitis already links to that beause you made the redirect. which is a bit off since it is a type of bronchitis and therefore better covered on Bronchitis page.
The comments above were added before reading your later edits. it seems that you have allowed the use of the word disease and the ref - so if that's a stable edit - thank you.
"COPD includes emphysema, an anatomically defined condition characterized by destruction of the lung alveoli with air space enlargement; chronic bronchitis, a clinically defined condition with chronic cough and phlegm; and small airway disease, a condition in which small bronchioles are narrowed and reduced in number"
"Emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and small airway disease are present in varying degrees in different COPD patients. Patients with a history of cigarette smoking without chronic airflow obstruction may have chronic bronchitis, emphysema, and dyspnea. Although these patients are not included within the classic definition of COPD, they may have similar disease processes... Although traditional teaching is that patients with predominant emphysema, termed “pink puffers,” are thin and noncyanotic at rest and have prominent use of accessory muscles, and patients with chronic bronchitis are more likely to be heavy and cyanotic (“blue bloaters”), current evidence demonstrates that most patients have elements of both chronic bronchitis and emphysema and that the physical examination does not reliably differentiate the two entities."
"Cigarette smoking often results in mucus gland enlargement and goblet cell hyperplasia, leading to cough and mucus production that define chronic bronchitis, but these abnormalities are not related to airflow limitation."
User:Doc James Firstly the CDC states that COPD refers to a group of diseases..(see below). You say (again) that these are not separate diseases yet either can exist and not be a COPD. The fact that over 8 million Americans were diagnosed with chronic bronchitis must mean that it is very clearly treated as a separate disease. They were not all diagnosed with COPD. The same for emphysema - they are only included in COPD when there is definable airflow limitation. So when they are not included logic must dictate that they exist in their own right.
CDC also states (if you click on their link on the page you give, in Related links) [5] - "Chronic obstructive disease (COPD) refers to a group of diseases that cause airflow blockage and breathing-related problems. It includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis". It need not be so necessary to point out that these are included diseases - it says nowhere, anywhere, that these diseases do not exist outside of the definition of COPD. They exist as distinct listed diseases. How can it be said that in 2016 over 8 million Americans were diagnosed with chronic bronchitis, and at the same time that they were diagnosed with COPD. It is a fact that not every case of chronic bronchitis is also a COPD and not every case of emphysema is a COPD. These are both listed in the ICD and MeSH as diseases - are you saying that they are wrong.? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 22:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Is Medscape an allowed source? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 06:53, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I do not understand were this text comes from "The ICD-11 lists chronic bronchitis with emphysema as "emphysematous bronchitis" which it lists as a "certain specified COPD"." Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
just to note that edits changed in Treatment section need re-doing. (Info does not now match refs)-- Iztwoz ( talk) 15:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
https://books.google.bg/books?id=enY4yvTkS9oC&pg=PA34
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I don’t understand why you adjusted a good edit , in my view well explained and completely supported by the refs , with the introduction of some sort of urban slang? If this is the intent I suggest it’s culture specific as the British version would need the ‘’innit’’ tag. "Well no longer used, innit?" Also, your edit introduced the use of "distinct types" which none of the references refer to. Each one was used as a label for COPD.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 06:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Ref says "The more familiar terms 'chronic bronchitis' and 'emphysema' are no longer used, but are now included within the COPD diagnosis." [6]
Other ref says "The more familiar terms “chronic bronchitis” and “emphysema” have often been used as labels for the condition." [7]
Both of them are current. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 23:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
The following quotes are from current usage:
“Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are common types of COPD” [8]
“COPD is an umbrella term used to describe progresssive lung diseases including emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and refractory asthma” [9]
“COPD is a group of lung conditions including bronchitis and emphysema” [10]
“Chronic bronchitis is one type of COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).” [11]
You are stating that previously chronic bronchitis was used for a type of COPD — which must mean that now it is either used for something else, or is not a type of COPD — yet all current definitions call it a type of COPD even if that is modified by airflow limitation.
And to call it a "term" on the page that is its subject is plainly wrong.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 12:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Or - before the introduction of COPD as an umbrella term for chronic bronchitis and emphysema both were treated as chronic and obstructive lung diseases - hence "the terms are no longer used" instead COPD is. They were not types of COPD previously - they became types of COPD when the umbrella term was introduced.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 13:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
For any interested editor - on the chronic obstructive pulmonary disease talk page there is a request for comments relating to the redirect of Chronic bronchitis.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 14:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Have reinstated the word hypersecretion - this is a simple enough word! and mucus hypersecretion is the term choice of almost all studies evidenced by citations. To use overproduction is to diminish and obscure the meaning of hypersecretion - mucus is overproduced in colds and flu and is clearly different from the hypersecretion of chronic bronchitis - it is the hypersecretion that is responsible for the chronic productive cough. Also removed ref to Chinese consensus - this is the general view held shall add GOLD ref. -- Iztwoz ( talk) 07:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
This is a Chinese consensus and we need to state that.
Thus "COPD includes chronic bronchitis as a phenotype, includes an emphysematous phenotype, and also a third phenotype of frequent exacerbations is recognised." is not appropriate.
Also were does the source mention "emphysematous phenotype" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5796802/
When you use GOLD instead (which you should) than one can remove the Chinese bit. Excessive mucus secretion is fine. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 08:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
How on earth do you cope with words like 'hypertension', 'hyperthyroid', 'hyperventilate', 'hyperactive'.........? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 15:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
The polish article is written and not connected: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostre_zapalenie_oskrzelik%C3%B3w ShalokShalom ( talk) 13:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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My nephew is currently struggling with bronchitis. I’ve researched, and smoking is a likely contributor. He smoked for a short time and has since been using the artificial smoke device. Is this an issue with his current condition? 2603:7081:2401:AB69:B872:7E41:7D89:A0DB ( talk) 06:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 16:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Where does it explain what bronchitis actually is in a way that most people understand? Is it a viral/bacterial infection? Is it something else? Does the inflammation make you open to these, or is one a by-product of the rest? SOMEBODY HELP!!!!!
Also, why is most of the stuff repeated??? PLease improve the quality of this article. 2.98.225.116 ( talk) 20:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I am only a second year science student so I am hesitant to edit this article. However from my understanding it is a common misconception that the overuse of antibiotics causes antibiotic resistant bacteria. Think about it. If you are prescribed antibiotics for a bacterial bronchitis and you have viral bronchitis, you lack the bacterium that causes bronchitis, so it can’t mutate to become antibiotic resistant as it doesn’t exist in your system. The real cause of antibiotic resistant bacteria is when people don’t finish all of their antibiotics as prescribed. If you are prescribed 10 days worth and you stop taking them at 5 days, because you start feeling better, you still have some bacteria which caused your illness that survives. That bacteria will mutate and become antibiotic resistant. So I think this article needs to be fixed to say that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.96.66 ( talk) 18:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I am jjjgoing to take off the line in the "references" portion of the article that says "It often leads to a sudden, violent death", because this doesn't seem to be a reference. csieb2011 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC).
I need to know if at anytime Chronic Bronchitis can become contagious. I live in a house with a 2 month old baby and he just got over RSV. At the time he contracted RSV I had Chronic Bronchitis flare-up. Could I have been the cause of it?-- 70.210.254.122 ( talk) 21:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
My 16 month old son who recently started going to child care came down with Bronchialitis (as diagnosed by an experienced doctor). Then I got it a week later (after having a mild flu).
I think the viral and bacterial Bronchitis is contagious. I feel like a living test subject! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.112.41 ( talk) 05:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
The article listed two conflicting definitions of chronic bronchitis (symptoms over 2 vs 3 years). I've reconciled the two definitions to point to '2 years', in accordance to a report I found and referenced at the CDC. That report though referenced other documents as part of its definition, so perhaps the original source would be a better reference? - William McVey, Oct 21, 2009
"is characterized by the presence of the grim reaper seriously??? Was This added as a joke-- someone fix please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.54.89 ( talk) 20:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I have removed portions of this article which seem to have been copied from Kidshealth.org.
Shijaz ( talk) 07:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
In an effort to improve the quality of this article, I think we would find it beneficial to add a main picture to the article. Perhaps we could add a diagram of how Bronchitis affects the lungs. Please feel free to express your thoughts. If you think I should find a picture and upload it, I would be more than happy to do so. Tyrol5 [Talk] 17:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
It is proposed that Bronchitis be part of the trial of a new template; see the green strip at the top of Pain where it has been in place for a couple of months. The purpose of this project is to encourage readers to edit, while equipping them with the basic tools. If you perceive a problem with this, or have any suggestions for improvement, please discuss at the project talk page -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 09:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC).
A doctor I saw after seven full days of being sick diagnosed bronchitis and ordered a chest x-ray. I was given clarithromycin 500 mg 2x/day for "underlying illness." I'm also using antibacterial lozenges and mouthwash because my most severe symptom is sore throat, at times reaching about 6 out of 10 on the pain scale. So it seems that the prohibition on prescribing antibiotics and antibacterials for bronchitis is not universal, and perhaps the article should reflect that. 66.49.178.132 ( talk) 19:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
[1] not great quality source, but often you have to compromise for the history section. lesion ( talk) 06:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
(moved from article.) This whole damn article is too complex some people can't understand these terms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.212.96 ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 29 January 2013
I added some external links to medlineplus & the mayo clinic, which should help people looking for a non-technical treatment summary. This is one of the most highly-trafficked medical articles on Wikipedia, per WP:5000 -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 18:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
These are two completely different conditions. It does not make sense to discuss them together. Propose we cut this article short and just provide a brief overview of the two in separate section and than provide links to the main articles. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:21, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Infections or lung irritants cause acute bronchitis ( http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/brnchi/causes.html). However I am having a hard time to find some literature on this? Richiez ( talk) 22:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
"In 2013, it resulted in 2.9 million deaths, up from 2.4 million deaths in 1990" This makes it sound as if it has become more widespread, while in reality world population grew much more than that in the same period. Ibmua ( talk) 13:11, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
"Bronchial wall thickening, as can be seen on CT scan, generally (but not always) impies inflammation of the bronchi. [1] Normally, the ratio of the bronchial wall thickness and the bronchial diameter is between 0.17 and 0.23. [2]"
This is not used in diagnosis? Last think we want to imply is that those with bronchitis should request a CT. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Not sure what is wrong with "Most people with chronic bronchitis have chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)."?
Not all of them do by the way, just most of them. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 23:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
User:Iztwoz what text in the reference Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine supported your word change? I assume you pulled the textbook and read that section? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 07:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Lets go through the NIH source you have used to try to say "Chronic bronchitis is a type of COPD". The source says [3]:
"Chronic bronchitis is an ongoing cough that lasts for several months and comes back two or more years in a row."
"Chronic bronchitis is often part of a serious condition called chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)."
Yes both of these statements are correct and consistent with the rest of the literature and neither one says it is a type of COPD. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 19:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
For "Chronic bronchitis is a component of COPD."Petty, TL (2006). "The history of COPD". International journal of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. 1 (1): 3–14. PMID 18046898."
It would support that it was a component but we already say that.
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 08:15, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
This is no longer true. MESH is from 2002.
https://meshb.nlm.nih.gov/record/ui?ui=D029481
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Someone is simply using the old terminology!? Is this someone the person responsible for making 8.6 million diagnoses of Chronic bronchitis in 2016 in America?-- Iztwoz ( talk) 10:15, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
That is so wrong. Chronic bronchitis already links to that beause you made the redirect. which is a bit off since it is a type of bronchitis and therefore better covered on Bronchitis page.
The comments above were added before reading your later edits. it seems that you have allowed the use of the word disease and the ref - so if that's a stable edit - thank you.
"COPD includes emphysema, an anatomically defined condition characterized by destruction of the lung alveoli with air space enlargement; chronic bronchitis, a clinically defined condition with chronic cough and phlegm; and small airway disease, a condition in which small bronchioles are narrowed and reduced in number"
"Emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and small airway disease are present in varying degrees in different COPD patients. Patients with a history of cigarette smoking without chronic airflow obstruction may have chronic bronchitis, emphysema, and dyspnea. Although these patients are not included within the classic definition of COPD, they may have similar disease processes... Although traditional teaching is that patients with predominant emphysema, termed “pink puffers,” are thin and noncyanotic at rest and have prominent use of accessory muscles, and patients with chronic bronchitis are more likely to be heavy and cyanotic (“blue bloaters”), current evidence demonstrates that most patients have elements of both chronic bronchitis and emphysema and that the physical examination does not reliably differentiate the two entities."
"Cigarette smoking often results in mucus gland enlargement and goblet cell hyperplasia, leading to cough and mucus production that define chronic bronchitis, but these abnormalities are not related to airflow limitation."
User:Doc James Firstly the CDC states that COPD refers to a group of diseases..(see below). You say (again) that these are not separate diseases yet either can exist and not be a COPD. The fact that over 8 million Americans were diagnosed with chronic bronchitis must mean that it is very clearly treated as a separate disease. They were not all diagnosed with COPD. The same for emphysema - they are only included in COPD when there is definable airflow limitation. So when they are not included logic must dictate that they exist in their own right.
CDC also states (if you click on their link on the page you give, in Related links) [5] - "Chronic obstructive disease (COPD) refers to a group of diseases that cause airflow blockage and breathing-related problems. It includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis". It need not be so necessary to point out that these are included diseases - it says nowhere, anywhere, that these diseases do not exist outside of the definition of COPD. They exist as distinct listed diseases. How can it be said that in 2016 over 8 million Americans were diagnosed with chronic bronchitis, and at the same time that they were diagnosed with COPD. It is a fact that not every case of chronic bronchitis is also a COPD and not every case of emphysema is a COPD. These are both listed in the ICD and MeSH as diseases - are you saying that they are wrong.? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 22:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Is Medscape an allowed source? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 06:53, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I do not understand were this text comes from "The ICD-11 lists chronic bronchitis with emphysema as "emphysematous bronchitis" which it lists as a "certain specified COPD"." Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
just to note that edits changed in Treatment section need re-doing. (Info does not now match refs)-- Iztwoz ( talk) 15:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
https://books.google.bg/books?id=enY4yvTkS9oC&pg=PA34
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I don’t understand why you adjusted a good edit , in my view well explained and completely supported by the refs , with the introduction of some sort of urban slang? If this is the intent I suggest it’s culture specific as the British version would need the ‘’innit’’ tag. "Well no longer used, innit?" Also, your edit introduced the use of "distinct types" which none of the references refer to. Each one was used as a label for COPD.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 06:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Ref says "The more familiar terms 'chronic bronchitis' and 'emphysema' are no longer used, but are now included within the COPD diagnosis." [6]
Other ref says "The more familiar terms “chronic bronchitis” and “emphysema” have often been used as labels for the condition." [7]
Both of them are current. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 23:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
The following quotes are from current usage:
“Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are common types of COPD” [8]
“COPD is an umbrella term used to describe progresssive lung diseases including emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and refractory asthma” [9]
“COPD is a group of lung conditions including bronchitis and emphysema” [10]
“Chronic bronchitis is one type of COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).” [11]
You are stating that previously chronic bronchitis was used for a type of COPD — which must mean that now it is either used for something else, or is not a type of COPD — yet all current definitions call it a type of COPD even if that is modified by airflow limitation.
And to call it a "term" on the page that is its subject is plainly wrong.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 12:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Or - before the introduction of COPD as an umbrella term for chronic bronchitis and emphysema both were treated as chronic and obstructive lung diseases - hence "the terms are no longer used" instead COPD is. They were not types of COPD previously - they became types of COPD when the umbrella term was introduced.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 13:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
For any interested editor - on the chronic obstructive pulmonary disease talk page there is a request for comments relating to the redirect of Chronic bronchitis.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 14:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Have reinstated the word hypersecretion - this is a simple enough word! and mucus hypersecretion is the term choice of almost all studies evidenced by citations. To use overproduction is to diminish and obscure the meaning of hypersecretion - mucus is overproduced in colds and flu and is clearly different from the hypersecretion of chronic bronchitis - it is the hypersecretion that is responsible for the chronic productive cough. Also removed ref to Chinese consensus - this is the general view held shall add GOLD ref. -- Iztwoz ( talk) 07:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
This is a Chinese consensus and we need to state that.
Thus "COPD includes chronic bronchitis as a phenotype, includes an emphysematous phenotype, and also a third phenotype of frequent exacerbations is recognised." is not appropriate.
Also were does the source mention "emphysematous phenotype" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5796802/
When you use GOLD instead (which you should) than one can remove the Chinese bit. Excessive mucus secretion is fine. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 08:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
How on earth do you cope with words like 'hypertension', 'hyperthyroid', 'hyperventilate', 'hyperactive'.........? -- Iztwoz ( talk) 15:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
The polish article is written and not connected: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostre_zapalenie_oskrzelik%C3%B3w ShalokShalom ( talk) 13:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Bdndndhdhdhjejehrjdjdjrjrjjrjrn 100.14.28.102 ( talk) 06:53, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
My nephew is currently struggling with bronchitis. I’ve researched, and smoking is a likely contributor. He smoked for a short time and has since been using the artificial smoke device. Is this an issue with his current condition? 2603:7081:2401:AB69:B872:7E41:7D89:A0DB ( talk) 06:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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