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I see the recent B-52 crash at Guam affected (=destroyed) a B-52 wich was one of six airplanes sent from Minot AFB for a short stage at Guam. The aforementioned list was completed with this event. Could the airplanes serial be found and added? I did not find the info anywhere; but I would know, since my cherished 1:72 model, Nº 61040, the last one to roll out from Boeing around 1966, was (short time after to Captn Hollands accident at Fairchild AFB) reassigned to Minot AFB so there is a chance that "mine" could be the one now missing. Best regards and thanks 190.113.164.2 ( talk) 18:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Samf4u I object, and think the crash is important to add. Note, notability does not to contents of articles. CuriousMind01 ( talk) 00:07, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
I was minded to restore, but noticed there was a discussion here. IMHO, as the aircraft was written off, AIRCRASH is met. I probably wouldn't support a stand-alone article, but it is certainly worth a mention. Mjroots ( talk) 05:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
I did not know about WPCRASH. The reason I thought the the B-52 loss was important, is because the number of planes is small, with no new B-52s being built, and no actual replacement aircraft for the B-52 mission.
Also, a suggestion, it would help explain in WPCRASH the reason for not listing all crashes, "A list of hull losses for most military would run into hundreds or thousands (or even tens of thousands for second world war types)" per above. Thank you CuriousMind01 ( talk) 12:52, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Should the 1963 crash near Grantsville, MA be included in this list? 3 crew members died and a broken arrow incident. [1] and [2] 313-matt ( talk) 18:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)313-matt
I started to add to the article more of the hull losses and deaths/severe injuries with the B-52. I was surprised at the number and then came here and found this Talk discussion. I think including all losses, as mentioned above, would make this article very large and overwhelm the article. I am proposing to create a separate article List of accidents and incidents involving the Boeing B-52 Stratofortress (from above) and then link this to the main article and reduce the main article to include only those incidents with a loss of control of nuclear bombs. I am open to suggestions. Darrend1967 ( talk) 16:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Not sure I understand the encyclopedic value of the cost table for individual bits of eaach model, propose it can be removed as not notable. MilborneOne ( talk) 12:39, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
The article says: "The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952.". Boeing says "The first B-52A flew Aug. 5, 1954." http://www.boeing.com/history/products/b-52-stratofortress.page. The previous flights seem to have been of the YB-52. Anyone see any reason why this correction should not be made? Jim Whitaker ( talk) 08:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
The article implies that all B-52 models prior to the B-52H were armed with .50 caliber machine guns and expressly states this was the armament for the B-52A. Through the first half-dozen B-52Bs, the planes were armed with two 20mm guns, which used an entirely different fire control system than was installed for the quad 50s. -- Lineagegeek ( talk) 21:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Strategic Air Command was, in fact, disestablished. This was accomplished by inactivating Headquarters, Strategic Air Command. However, the command is an establishment, not a unit (unlike its headquarters) and is established and disestablished, not activated and inactivated. The cited source for changing "disestablished" to "inactivated" is a Public Affairs caption to the command's emblem. A minor technicality, and not worth making the change. Lineagegeek ( talk) 00:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
The current CERP program is going to include alot more than just engines, as laid out in my recent addition to the upgrades section. I think that the portion on the various historical programs that aimed to upgrade the engines should remain where it is but the information about the current program (that has led to the selection of the rolse royce engine) should moved into the upgrades section of the article. Obviously I want to seek some consensus here before I do this but it makes more sense to have the information about the CERP program located in one place in the article rather than either duplicated or having information about the sensor/radar/communications ect upgrades in the engine retrofit section or having the information split as it currently is. Tamoraboys ( talk) 22:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
The ARRW program was recently canceled. Maabonnet ( talk) 23:01, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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The number in inventory says 72, but the contingent numbers after add up to 98. My request is for clarification. 2600:1700:3130:AE10:542C:B6B2:B104:D923 ( talk) 13:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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I see the recent B-52 crash at Guam affected (=destroyed) a B-52 wich was one of six airplanes sent from Minot AFB for a short stage at Guam. The aforementioned list was completed with this event. Could the airplanes serial be found and added? I did not find the info anywhere; but I would know, since my cherished 1:72 model, Nº 61040, the last one to roll out from Boeing around 1966, was (short time after to Captn Hollands accident at Fairchild AFB) reassigned to Minot AFB so there is a chance that "mine" could be the one now missing. Best regards and thanks 190.113.164.2 ( talk) 18:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Samf4u I object, and think the crash is important to add. Note, notability does not to contents of articles. CuriousMind01 ( talk) 00:07, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
I was minded to restore, but noticed there was a discussion here. IMHO, as the aircraft was written off, AIRCRASH is met. I probably wouldn't support a stand-alone article, but it is certainly worth a mention. Mjroots ( talk) 05:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
I did not know about WPCRASH. The reason I thought the the B-52 loss was important, is because the number of planes is small, with no new B-52s being built, and no actual replacement aircraft for the B-52 mission.
Also, a suggestion, it would help explain in WPCRASH the reason for not listing all crashes, "A list of hull losses for most military would run into hundreds or thousands (or even tens of thousands for second world war types)" per above. Thank you CuriousMind01 ( talk) 12:52, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Should the 1963 crash near Grantsville, MA be included in this list? 3 crew members died and a broken arrow incident. [1] and [2] 313-matt ( talk) 18:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)313-matt
I started to add to the article more of the hull losses and deaths/severe injuries with the B-52. I was surprised at the number and then came here and found this Talk discussion. I think including all losses, as mentioned above, would make this article very large and overwhelm the article. I am proposing to create a separate article List of accidents and incidents involving the Boeing B-52 Stratofortress (from above) and then link this to the main article and reduce the main article to include only those incidents with a loss of control of nuclear bombs. I am open to suggestions. Darrend1967 ( talk) 16:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Not sure I understand the encyclopedic value of the cost table for individual bits of eaach model, propose it can be removed as not notable. MilborneOne ( talk) 12:39, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
The article says: "The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952.". Boeing says "The first B-52A flew Aug. 5, 1954." http://www.boeing.com/history/products/b-52-stratofortress.page. The previous flights seem to have been of the YB-52. Anyone see any reason why this correction should not be made? Jim Whitaker ( talk) 08:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
The article implies that all B-52 models prior to the B-52H were armed with .50 caliber machine guns and expressly states this was the armament for the B-52A. Through the first half-dozen B-52Bs, the planes were armed with two 20mm guns, which used an entirely different fire control system than was installed for the quad 50s. -- Lineagegeek ( talk) 21:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Strategic Air Command was, in fact, disestablished. This was accomplished by inactivating Headquarters, Strategic Air Command. However, the command is an establishment, not a unit (unlike its headquarters) and is established and disestablished, not activated and inactivated. The cited source for changing "disestablished" to "inactivated" is a Public Affairs caption to the command's emblem. A minor technicality, and not worth making the change. Lineagegeek ( talk) 00:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
The current CERP program is going to include alot more than just engines, as laid out in my recent addition to the upgrades section. I think that the portion on the various historical programs that aimed to upgrade the engines should remain where it is but the information about the current program (that has led to the selection of the rolse royce engine) should moved into the upgrades section of the article. Obviously I want to seek some consensus here before I do this but it makes more sense to have the information about the CERP program located in one place in the article rather than either duplicated or having information about the sensor/radar/communications ect upgrades in the engine retrofit section or having the information split as it currently is. Tamoraboys ( talk) 22:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
The ARRW program was recently canceled. Maabonnet ( talk) 23:01, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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The number in inventory says 72, but the contingent numbers after add up to 98. My request is for clarification. 2600:1700:3130:AE10:542C:B6B2:B104:D923 ( talk) 13:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)