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The trouble with Billy Bunter is that there are twenty or so 'received ideas' about him, but nowadays very little new research. Somebody editing this entry refuses to believe that Frank Richards had racist ideas, especially when writing about Africa and Latin America. Hero-worship is no substitute for scholarship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:112E:DC01:5139:47CF:4E9F:A53B ( talk) 18:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply



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I've removed the list of post-war books, and pointed at the list on the Charles Hamilton page instead. -- Salvadors 09:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Yarooh! Bessie wasn't Billy's cousin! She was his sister!!! 81.132.84.133 19:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Meaulnes reply

I rather guess a bit of attention should be given to the Dutch situation, not into much detail but that Billy was a Blunder in the translated novels and like Bessie a Turf in the translated comics and the three Dutch movies based on the comics. If not for the sake of the topic of translation, then for the simple fact that Billy movies have been made. Of course I could add that information, but I have some doubts about how to do that without disturbing the article. Theodore

I filled the Billy Bunter page with information about him but someone removed it all. Sheer vandalism! The Bunter page now has almost no information about him. Unregistered and disgusted.

The wiki should NOT give away people's computer addresses. Try and use some sense, difficult though it may be.

Expanded the section dealing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen references and moved it to Comics to get it out of the Trivia section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.94.106.10 ( talk) 21:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC) reply

What the hell is Billy bunter about? WHy is there no info on the plot or anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.224.147 ( talk) 13:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Plot information: Some boys are at an old-fashioned boarding school. Some small incident leads into huge circumstances, such as somebody almost being expelled, an old friendship breaking up or some huge prank being played. Then at the end everything is smoothed out. The smoothing out usually happens during a football/cricket/rugby match, a rowing race or an adventure which ends in the discovery of hidden treasure/stolen goods/a German spy (1914-18 only). Pass the next issue. 89.31.50.92 ( talk) 17:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC) reply
Of course the school is old-fashioned - the stories were written over 60 years ago. They didn't play rugby at Greyfriars, rowing is never mentioned and cricket/football matches rarely figured in the dénouement. I know of no stories involving German spies. -- John Price ( talk) 21:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Boating for pleasure, in small sculls on the River Sark, features in many summer term stories in The Magnet, and features in the post-war novels (e.g. Bunter the Racketeer), although rowing as a sport was not a feature of Greyfriars. A number of stories in The Magnet in 1939-40 featured German spies (e.g. the serial The Spy of the Gestapo), and some stories published during World War One. Stephen Poppitt ( talk) 10:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC) reply

Re-write

I have rewritten this article, placing proper emphasis on Bunter as a character in the fiction of Charles Hamilton where he gained the vast majority of his fame. There is still a larger than merited section on the comic strips even though I have pruned this down to exclude hopelessly trivial items. I hope this provides a more balanced article.

-- John Price ( talk) 20:59, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Purpose of article

This article is about Billy Bunter the fictional character (primarily a literary character), not 'Billy Bunter of Greyfriars School', the TV series. As such it is not be within the scope of the BBC project. If someone wants to write about the TV series in detail, this should be a new article.-- John Price ( talk) 12:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC) reply

It's quite wrong to say that Bunter is a Lord of Misrule. Bunter's attitudes to public schools and the status quo are as conventional as they come! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.43.149 ( talk) 07:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC) reply
Really? Bunter lies, cheats, has no interest in sport or a classical education and undermines authority at every opportunity. His atitude is the antithesis of everything the Public School system tries to promote. Even his snobbishness is not mitigated by the idea of Noblesse oblige which the school system tried to instil in its pupils. -- John Price ( talk) 10:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Needed for the article

There really should be an attempt made to detail how the canon of Bunter books is represented in the present day. Is there one book publisher (or more) that has the rights to the various books? Are there books currently in print? Are there compendiums or anthologies available? Is there a systematic reissue plan by the literary heirs? Davidpatrick ( talk) 10:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC) reply

That is a probably too detailed a question for Wikipedia, especially as this article is only about one character in a series of stories; there are links to other articles which deal with the broader subject of the stories (Greyfriars School) and the author (Charles Hamilton). Also there the external links - the Friardale site is probably your best bet. -- John Price ( talk) 10:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC) reply

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Although over time, Bunter's weight is given as just over 14 stones to nearly 15 stones, this would have been a sheer guess on the weight of such a hugely fat boy by Hamilton, when most children were poorly nourished and very thin was the norm. Now with some real large children to use for comparison, Bunter's weight could possibly have been around twice that weight.( 185.181.236.222 ( talk) 15:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC)) reply

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The trouble with Billy Bunter is that there are twenty or so 'received ideas' about him, but nowadays very little new research. Somebody editing this entry refuses to believe that Frank Richards had racist ideas, especially when writing about Africa and Latin America. Hero-worship is no substitute for scholarship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:112E:DC01:5139:47CF:4E9F:A53B ( talk) 18:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply



Untitled

I've removed the list of post-war books, and pointed at the list on the Charles Hamilton page instead. -- Salvadors 09:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Yarooh! Bessie wasn't Billy's cousin! She was his sister!!! 81.132.84.133 19:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Meaulnes reply

I rather guess a bit of attention should be given to the Dutch situation, not into much detail but that Billy was a Blunder in the translated novels and like Bessie a Turf in the translated comics and the three Dutch movies based on the comics. If not for the sake of the topic of translation, then for the simple fact that Billy movies have been made. Of course I could add that information, but I have some doubts about how to do that without disturbing the article. Theodore

I filled the Billy Bunter page with information about him but someone removed it all. Sheer vandalism! The Bunter page now has almost no information about him. Unregistered and disgusted.

The wiki should NOT give away people's computer addresses. Try and use some sense, difficult though it may be.

Expanded the section dealing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen references and moved it to Comics to get it out of the Trivia section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.94.106.10 ( talk) 21:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC) reply

What the hell is Billy bunter about? WHy is there no info on the plot or anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.224.147 ( talk) 13:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Plot information: Some boys are at an old-fashioned boarding school. Some small incident leads into huge circumstances, such as somebody almost being expelled, an old friendship breaking up or some huge prank being played. Then at the end everything is smoothed out. The smoothing out usually happens during a football/cricket/rugby match, a rowing race or an adventure which ends in the discovery of hidden treasure/stolen goods/a German spy (1914-18 only). Pass the next issue. 89.31.50.92 ( talk) 17:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC) reply
Of course the school is old-fashioned - the stories were written over 60 years ago. They didn't play rugby at Greyfriars, rowing is never mentioned and cricket/football matches rarely figured in the dénouement. I know of no stories involving German spies. -- John Price ( talk) 21:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Boating for pleasure, in small sculls on the River Sark, features in many summer term stories in The Magnet, and features in the post-war novels (e.g. Bunter the Racketeer), although rowing as a sport was not a feature of Greyfriars. A number of stories in The Magnet in 1939-40 featured German spies (e.g. the serial The Spy of the Gestapo), and some stories published during World War One. Stephen Poppitt ( talk) 10:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC) reply

Re-write

I have rewritten this article, placing proper emphasis on Bunter as a character in the fiction of Charles Hamilton where he gained the vast majority of his fame. There is still a larger than merited section on the comic strips even though I have pruned this down to exclude hopelessly trivial items. I hope this provides a more balanced article.

-- John Price ( talk) 20:59, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Purpose of article

This article is about Billy Bunter the fictional character (primarily a literary character), not 'Billy Bunter of Greyfriars School', the TV series. As such it is not be within the scope of the BBC project. If someone wants to write about the TV series in detail, this should be a new article.-- John Price ( talk) 12:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC) reply

It's quite wrong to say that Bunter is a Lord of Misrule. Bunter's attitudes to public schools and the status quo are as conventional as they come! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.43.149 ( talk) 07:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC) reply
Really? Bunter lies, cheats, has no interest in sport or a classical education and undermines authority at every opportunity. His atitude is the antithesis of everything the Public School system tries to promote. Even his snobbishness is not mitigated by the idea of Noblesse oblige which the school system tried to instil in its pupils. -- John Price ( talk) 10:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Needed for the article

There really should be an attempt made to detail how the canon of Bunter books is represented in the present day. Is there one book publisher (or more) that has the rights to the various books? Are there books currently in print? Are there compendiums or anthologies available? Is there a systematic reissue plan by the literary heirs? Davidpatrick ( talk) 10:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC) reply

That is a probably too detailed a question for Wikipedia, especially as this article is only about one character in a series of stories; there are links to other articles which deal with the broader subject of the stories (Greyfriars School) and the author (Charles Hamilton). Also there the external links - the Friardale site is probably your best bet. -- John Price ( talk) 10:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC) reply

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Although over time, Bunter's weight is given as just over 14 stones to nearly 15 stones, this would have been a sheer guess on the weight of such a hugely fat boy by Hamilton, when most children were poorly nourished and very thin was the norm. Now with some real large children to use for comparison, Bunter's weight could possibly have been around twice that weight.( 185.181.236.222 ( talk) 15:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC)) reply

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