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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Reluctance to merge this article stems from a consideration of the following two lists of phrases:
1. "Chemical Addiction" "Drug Addiction" "Behavioral Addiction"
2. "Addictive Chemical" "Addictive Drug" "Addictive Behavior"
The terms in the first list describe addictions, whereas the second merely lists things an addict might utilize. There is an important difference, which was the genesis for this article. Not to sound like a grumpy English teacher, but "addiction" is the noun, and "behavioral" is the adjective. Respectfully, FriendNdeed ( talk) 19:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Reference #7 is no longer available, it needs to be removed or replaced with suitable one
Yinmaru ( talk) 12:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Although I think that the following two sentences written in the article are onto something important, I also think that they don't make very clear sense because they are not written very well. Can someone appropriate please refine them? The probably problematic sentences are below and in bold:
Many people, both psychology professionals and laypeople, now feel that there should be accommodation made to include psychological dependency on such things as gambling, food, sex, pornography, computers, video games, internet, work, exercise, spiritual obsession (as opposed to religious devotion), pain [1], cutting and shopping so these behaviors count as 'addictions' as well and cause guilt, shame, fear, hopelessness, failure, rejection, anxiety, or humiliation symptoms associated with, among other medical conditions, depression and epilepsy. ~Both psychology professionals and laypeople, now feel there should be accommodations made to include psychological dependency on gambling, sex, food, and etc.. Often these behavior traits can cause shame, fear, and guilt which would classify them into a addiction category. Therefore, they should fall in the same category as medical conditions such as depression and epilepsy where they can be treated.~ 17:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)17:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)~~
This sentence seems to be saying that many people feel that acts like gambling should be considered addictions and should cause us to feel "guilt, shame, fear, hopelessness, failure, rejection, anxiety, or humiliation" like it does to people suffering from depression and epilepsy.
[Second Opinion] Actually, the sentence specifies that it's a "psychological dependency" on those things that classifies them as addictions. And it's not implying that these things "should" cause "fear, hopelessness, etc," it's saying that a psychological dependency on these things DOES cause "fear, hopelessness, etc." The trouble is that it's worded awkwardly, and that it's a run-on sentence.
[third opinion] its the idea that people now want there to be a label put on those people that "gamble, work, exercise....ect" too much so that there is a sense of shame and fear for the consequences that might come from doing those things too much. the same health "fear" that comes from depression or epilepsy. ≈kylecook5088 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylecook5088 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Although, the above mentioned are things or tasks which, when used or performed, do not fit into the traditional view of addiction and may be better defined as an obsessive–compulsive disorder, withdrawal symptoms are only possible upon abatement of such behaviors.
This sentence seems to be saying that withdrawal symptoms are only possible when one abates these types of behaviors. (well isn't that always the case with withdrawal symptoms?)
Excuse me if I am misunderstanding things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wawawemn ( talk • contribs) 08:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
I recently re-wrote 'Addictive Behavior' in an effort to fix the editor's recommendations ie essay vs encyclopedia form; clean up references so they are not urls only; etc. In doing this I added some new info. While reviewing the 'Behavioral Addiction' page it appears that with little effort the pages can easily be combined. I understand the note from "FriendNdeed" however with perhaps a broader title the pages could be successfully merged. Is there a reason why we can't merge both 'behavior addiction' and 'addictive behavior' into 'addiction'? In fact, the page 'Addiction' already contains a sub heading 'Behavioral Addiction." AddictionPsychologistFrank ( talk) 13:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
The style of writing in the paragraph introducing Goodman's work appears to not be encyclopedic (e.g. failure of neutral point of view). The wording as it stands appears to make the Wikipedia article take the point of view that Goodman's work supercedes or supplants the work of Carnes. Whether this is or is not the case, such a point of view must be attributed to a source rather than presented as original research or as something self-evident. If the source implied is Goodman's work itself, then the text should be written to reflect this. Otherwise the text is written in such a way as to give the appearance that there is a consensus viewpoint when perhaps there is not. If there is, there should be a citation to this effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.39.74 ( talk) 03:41, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes Depression is the Vector. (Or a Pschological State that requires the person to feel needed in a Group...eg. Alcohol Consumption ---> perporting to being better than the other) -> Addiction is lost when the member of society is valued in other environments.
This is easy stuff.
According to WP:MEDRS, WP:PRIMARY studies are not allowed to make medical claims inside Wikipedia. tgeorgescu ( talk) 06:00, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't think it does. It's just an ersatz word that substitutes for the concept of a lack of willpower and/or self-control. I say that because I have known a number of opioid users and misusers over many years. Misusers with self-awareness and insight can admit they lack self-control. Only those who lack insight, or self-awareness of their lack of self-control, assert they misuse because they are 'addicted'. They use - first and foremost - because they adore the euphoria, if not many other aspects of the experience necessarily, and misuse because they lack the self-control to moderate their use. This is borne out by surveys that consistently show that many, if not most, opioid users can and do exercise self-control, and choose to be occasional and not habitual or 'addicted' users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.210.84 ( talk) 13:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 August 2023 and 17 October 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): GB.Sala ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Sqebo ( talk) 20:37, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 August 2019 and 6 December 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Emilygdeng. Peer reviewers: Jenny1620, Kangw01, Simonecedotal, BGarrett333.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Reluctance to merge this article stems from a consideration of the following two lists of phrases:
1. "Chemical Addiction" "Drug Addiction" "Behavioral Addiction"
2. "Addictive Chemical" "Addictive Drug" "Addictive Behavior"
The terms in the first list describe addictions, whereas the second merely lists things an addict might utilize. There is an important difference, which was the genesis for this article. Not to sound like a grumpy English teacher, but "addiction" is the noun, and "behavioral" is the adjective. Respectfully, FriendNdeed ( talk) 19:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Reference #7 is no longer available, it needs to be removed or replaced with suitable one
Yinmaru ( talk) 12:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Although I think that the following two sentences written in the article are onto something important, I also think that they don't make very clear sense because they are not written very well. Can someone appropriate please refine them? The probably problematic sentences are below and in bold:
Many people, both psychology professionals and laypeople, now feel that there should be accommodation made to include psychological dependency on such things as gambling, food, sex, pornography, computers, video games, internet, work, exercise, spiritual obsession (as opposed to religious devotion), pain [1], cutting and shopping so these behaviors count as 'addictions' as well and cause guilt, shame, fear, hopelessness, failure, rejection, anxiety, or humiliation symptoms associated with, among other medical conditions, depression and epilepsy. ~Both psychology professionals and laypeople, now feel there should be accommodations made to include psychological dependency on gambling, sex, food, and etc.. Often these behavior traits can cause shame, fear, and guilt which would classify them into a addiction category. Therefore, they should fall in the same category as medical conditions such as depression and epilepsy where they can be treated.~ 17:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)17:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)~~
This sentence seems to be saying that many people feel that acts like gambling should be considered addictions and should cause us to feel "guilt, shame, fear, hopelessness, failure, rejection, anxiety, or humiliation" like it does to people suffering from depression and epilepsy.
[Second Opinion] Actually, the sentence specifies that it's a "psychological dependency" on those things that classifies them as addictions. And it's not implying that these things "should" cause "fear, hopelessness, etc," it's saying that a psychological dependency on these things DOES cause "fear, hopelessness, etc." The trouble is that it's worded awkwardly, and that it's a run-on sentence.
[third opinion] its the idea that people now want there to be a label put on those people that "gamble, work, exercise....ect" too much so that there is a sense of shame and fear for the consequences that might come from doing those things too much. the same health "fear" that comes from depression or epilepsy. ≈kylecook5088 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylecook5088 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Although, the above mentioned are things or tasks which, when used or performed, do not fit into the traditional view of addiction and may be better defined as an obsessive–compulsive disorder, withdrawal symptoms are only possible upon abatement of such behaviors.
This sentence seems to be saying that withdrawal symptoms are only possible when one abates these types of behaviors. (well isn't that always the case with withdrawal symptoms?)
Excuse me if I am misunderstanding things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wawawemn ( talk • contribs) 08:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
I recently re-wrote 'Addictive Behavior' in an effort to fix the editor's recommendations ie essay vs encyclopedia form; clean up references so they are not urls only; etc. In doing this I added some new info. While reviewing the 'Behavioral Addiction' page it appears that with little effort the pages can easily be combined. I understand the note from "FriendNdeed" however with perhaps a broader title the pages could be successfully merged. Is there a reason why we can't merge both 'behavior addiction' and 'addictive behavior' into 'addiction'? In fact, the page 'Addiction' already contains a sub heading 'Behavioral Addiction." AddictionPsychologistFrank ( talk) 13:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
The style of writing in the paragraph introducing Goodman's work appears to not be encyclopedic (e.g. failure of neutral point of view). The wording as it stands appears to make the Wikipedia article take the point of view that Goodman's work supercedes or supplants the work of Carnes. Whether this is or is not the case, such a point of view must be attributed to a source rather than presented as original research or as something self-evident. If the source implied is Goodman's work itself, then the text should be written to reflect this. Otherwise the text is written in such a way as to give the appearance that there is a consensus viewpoint when perhaps there is not. If there is, there should be a citation to this effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.39.74 ( talk) 03:41, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes Depression is the Vector. (Or a Pschological State that requires the person to feel needed in a Group...eg. Alcohol Consumption ---> perporting to being better than the other) -> Addiction is lost when the member of society is valued in other environments.
This is easy stuff.
According to WP:MEDRS, WP:PRIMARY studies are not allowed to make medical claims inside Wikipedia. tgeorgescu ( talk) 06:00, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't think it does. It's just an ersatz word that substitutes for the concept of a lack of willpower and/or self-control. I say that because I have known a number of opioid users and misusers over many years. Misusers with self-awareness and insight can admit they lack self-control. Only those who lack insight, or self-awareness of their lack of self-control, assert they misuse because they are 'addicted'. They use - first and foremost - because they adore the euphoria, if not many other aspects of the experience necessarily, and misuse because they lack the self-control to moderate their use. This is borne out by surveys that consistently show that many, if not most, opioid users can and do exercise self-control, and choose to be occasional and not habitual or 'addicted' users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.210.84 ( talk) 13:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 August 2023 and 17 October 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): GB.Sala ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Sqebo ( talk) 20:37, 26 August 2023 (UTC)