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69.171.160.192 ( talk) 21:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure Kantor's book should be referenced here, at least not without a caveat. Most of the cases he discusses seem to be about what we'd call "commitment-phobic" behaviours rather than the more broad spectrum of AvPD, i.e. general avoidance of social interaction, and the problems this produces.-- Eyeresist 01:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
As I mentioned in the Borderline Personality Disorder discussion page, I'm doing some research for a novel I'm writing, with a character who I thought had BDP. Having read this article on Avoidant Personality Disorder though, it seems like my character is more of an AvPD than a BPD. Thanks Wikipedia! However, I think those with AvPD share some similarities with BPDs. It's interesting stuff.
- Geelin 14:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Cheers, Geelin 08:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Do all Social Phobics have Avoidant Personality Disorder? If not, how do you confidently distinguish the two? This article's discription of APD sounds like things that go on in the mind of a clinically socially anxious person.-- J. Daily 19:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
I was diagnosed with AvPD nearly 6 years ago and I've done a lot research on AvPD and Social Phobia. From what I've learned, the difference is very little, but basically the feeling of anxiety in AvPD is a lot more severe. I had AvPD so bad that I couldn't even apply for a job or have any friends. It was to the point where I had to either ask for help or commit suicide. Fortunately, I sought help. I'm so much better now...have several friends, going to college, and have a job... So, yeah, that's my two cents. Ioxmo 02:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this article should make clear that, contrarily to some other disorders related to social interaction, a person suffering from AvPD is not happy with avoiding social interaction and staying alone, and yearns to somehow find the strength to communicate with other people and let them know her true self and be appreciated just like anybody else. I was diagnosed with AvPD myself and by no means does it mean that I will not attend a party or any social gathering. I actually seek such gatherings, each time hoping that it will be the day when I will really talk to friends who will be there and whom I love. Rano—The preceding unsigned comment was added by USER NAME OR IP ( talk • contribs).
I think the main difference is that one is a phobia and one is a personality disorder. So basically APD is when you have a certian personality that cuases you to avoid social situations and other symptoms as well such as feeling inferior to other, having a fear of rejection, which is not usually present in social phobia.
It's actually quite simple. Avoidant Personality Disorder is severe Social Phobia, much like how Narcissistic Personality Disorder is severe Narcissism. Der unaussprechliche ( talk) 07:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
It appears that the citations in the article are scholarly but not really very wikiupdated. So I propose that the format of citation in this article be converted to a more "linkful" one. I'm no expert on citation in wikipedia but I've seen other articles with external links which are more convenient to reference. However, I've just looked through the now recommended cite.php footnotes format extension (not the deprecated Footnote3 system), and I understand why there is an almost complete lack of external links cited and referenced. The system is quite a bit more intimidating, and the old Footnote3 format, which I was just getting the hang of, will someday soon be obsolete. So the author here chose to use an alternate method, which is acceptable according to one of the citing wikipages I've read. I propose that interested contributors discuss an appropriate re-citing to allow extensive external links. This could be either finding a willing cite.php adept to re-cite the present references, or one of the presently interested contributors changing over the present cites to Footnote3 so that it can be converted later, via a bot, also wielded by an adept. Interested parties please respond so we can all start thinking about this. Don't forget to use colons to indent your entries and please sign them so we all know who is saying what.
Now I want to add a citation that is marked "needed" in the article. By the way, this entry emphasises the above comments because some of the sources cited themselves offer a wealth of information as well as numerous corroborations and bibliographies, which enriches understanding. I had better create a new heading here so future editors can easily find this. Bearpa 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Found good article online with expansive documentation. This could cite to the end of the next sentence instead of where shown. I will try to cite in the APD article like the present author has, and enter the reference as shown in Wikipedia:citing sources and templates:cite web. One problem is the length of the article on one text page, so in notes, I will give a location in the article. Might be helpful, might be overkill. Please offer suggestions. Bearpa 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I wish to comment but there's a problem w/ your post that led me on a wild goose edit where I had to learn about reverts and undoing revert revisions (if that makes any sense at all). Anyway let me just copy an entry that was part of that ill-fated effort that might explain:
Sorry, I was not signed on when first appending the above unsigned signature (the posting was by Portillo on 30 September 2006). I'm getting an "editing a prior version" warning so that I'm worried I will unintentionally revert all later version (and entries?); if I do I will try to undo (not to sure of myself when it comes to the intricacies). If you'll notice, though, there are two equal sign (==) on only one side of the entry and there is no edit link (edit) in this post's section so there seems to have been a prob. w/the post, but I want to comment on this post. I hope I haven't flubbed things too much; not my intention. Live and learn. (Much chaos ensued when saved, but I'm OK now) What got me started here was that I really wanted to comment, to Portillo or any others, that this is a good question and I am curious as well, also about personality or anxiety disorders affecting those with long-term intrusive disease or medical conditions and/or long-term, chronic, or severe recurring pain. Anyone with experiences? Bearpa 04:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Now I am re-signing in realtime Bearpa 04:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
There is no mention of ppl who feel socially inept because of physical reasons such as scars or deformities. What does this go under? Portillo 08:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
am i missing something? why is 'the white rabbit' listed? 71.232.108.228 07:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone added this to the white rabbit page: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=White_Rabbit&diff=prev&oldid=109766817 I'm not sure what their reasoning is, it should probably be removed.
All we have for notable sufferers right now is two fictional characters. Does anyone know of any "real life" notable sufferers that we could add? -- DearPrudence 06:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Who is the second fictional character? I assume Shinji Ikari is one of them as its so obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.236.146 ( talk) 14:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC) I assume the 2nd fictional character is Holden Caulfield, widely used as an example of alienation. NoraTes ( talk) 18:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I know this now links to the page for "magical thinking", but could we elaborate a little more on it? I think that "creating a fantasy world" and "using magical thinking" are fairly different things. (Feel free to correct me if this isn't the case.) -- DearPrudence 01:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Should this link here? The Encyclopedia Britannica article on this is concerned mainly with behavior in nature, such as antipredator behaviors. Richard001 01:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
This is a page on Avoidant personality disorder. It is not a page on neurotic styles. Putting a differentiation section on this page creates an editorial situation where this type of section would then be required on every personality disorders page.
We would be better off creating a page on Shadow syndromes, or Neurotic styles, as opposed to addressing this here. -- DashaKat 17:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
what about eating disorders?
I think a list of comorbidities would be easier to quickly read than prose form. anyone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.212.236 ( talk) 08:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
This sentence, in the first section, needs clarification: "Whether the feeling of rejection is due to the extreme interpersonal monitoring attributed to people with the disorder is still disputed." Does this mean that they pay too much attention to people around them, or that they are paid too much attention to? -Me, 5/7/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.118.73.116 ( talk) 09:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
"Investment in fixed fantasies" What does this mean? I read the article on fixed fantasies, but a few examples would help, I think. AzureFury ( talk | contribs) 08:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
. The article also says that he was "known throughout his life as a loner", which to me implies that he was also avoidant. -- Mark PEA ( talk) 12:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)He was picked on by bullies at school, and took refuge in a fantasy world in which he retaliated against them
Fixed Fantasys does not mean one daydreams alot, although this is common among Avoidants. What a fixed fantasy actually means is an almost unalterable belief about oneself.i.e. AvPD=Delusions of inferiority. NPD=Delusions of superiority ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.247.12 ( talk) 09:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank You. 19:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.145.131 ( talk)
I'd also like to say thank you, although I know it is out of place on this page (feel free to delete this entry). I never really knew I had AvPD until I read this and it hit me like a ton of bricks in the gut that it was like reading something written by someone who could see into my hidden soul. I'd just want the people who contributed to this page to know that this page really helped me to get help. Just knowing there was something to define the way I felt and that there were likely others like me too has made a big difference and just being able to point people to this page when I need to explain why I am the way I am (which I can't do very well on account of the AvPD) really helps too.
Just to make this a little bit on-topic, I'd like to say I think the article is perfect and I hope nobody changes it (at least not much) because I am sure it is helping a lot of other AvPD people understand their condition and be encouraged that other (non-AvPD) people are being helped to understand them also.
Thanks again, and again, feel free to delete this (but I hope it can stay up for a while just so other contributors can read it and know their efforts are very appreciated) 82.43.197.132 ( talk) 21:31, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
This page used to feature links to chat rooms for AvPD sufferers and no longer does. Is this some sort of policy decision? Anyway, the old chat room for avoidants seems to have closed down. To try and replace it an IRC channel for AvPD has been created, maybe it can be linked to from here. Its irc://irc.slackhost.net/avpd. Easiest way to get there is prolly to use Mibbit through this link http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.slackhost.net&channel=%23avpd# —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.28.105 ( talk) 08:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
In schizoid personality disorder and paranoid personality disorder, we distinguish them from mood disorders. I went through a depression (of the melancholic subtype, I assume) last year, but some of my symptoms overlapped with this disorder, namely:
Even though I had the required amount of symptoms, I doubt that I suffered from this personality disorder.
My depression started after I had acted stubborn toward my parents, and the stress of schoolwork, topped by a failed relationship, procrastination and what sounds like
obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, contributed to the anxiety, but my depression ended with the school year (after it was so unbearable that I told my parents, and went for one uncomfortable session with a psychologist). I also had most of the symptoms of
dysthymia but they didn't last nearly long enough.
SO (for all you tl;dr's), I'd like to know whether major depressive disorder (which also included low self-esteem in its description) should cancel out the diagnosis of avoidant personality disorder, as it does with schizoid and paranoid personality disorders, because they share symptoms (that mostly didn't persist longer than the depression, in my case). I was anxious all of the time, and even more so around people (although I still feel nervous when at the mall or during oral presentations, as I always have), but I met nearly all of the criteria for a major depressive episode. Should we leave a note about this? MichaelExe ( talk) 15:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I tried to sign up with this group the other day. I don't seem to fit the requirements, though. I asked on another avoidant forum whether anybody was ever able to get an account there, and most said that they tried but got rejected as I did. I don't think the group should be mentioned in the article. --Anonymous Avoidant, 3 August 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.150.68.76 ( talk) 23:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I was in the BigTent Avoidant group. I e-mailed two moderators about people not being able to sign up. I never got an answer. A few weeks later I tried to sign in and found my account had been deleted. I don't think the group should be mentioned in the article either ---- Another Anonymoue Avoidant, 6 September 2009
Is there any famous people with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omegakingboo ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You shut your mouth/how can you say/I go about things the wrong way/I am human and I need to be loved/just like everybody else does
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Hi,
I created an external link section for this page and linked to a youtube clip of a subjective account of the disorder by a sufferer. The clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ7qYH4ud4U
I've two questions. 1) Is all youtube content to be considered under copyright?
2) Obviously external sources should be authorities on the subject. However, this is a link providing a subjective, first-person narrative of the disorder. It is not claiming a clinical perspective, but it should, I think, be considered authoritative as to the possible personal experience of the disorder. It's a very articulate and accurate account from the sufferer's perspective. Are all such sources barred from usage in wiki articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FiachraByrne ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I propose to add some more information of the disorder by adding some more details about the subject and those affected by it. Below is what i would like to add:
Avoidant personality disorder is more commonly found to be diagnosed in females than in males. Those with this disorder may often choose jobs of isolation so that they do not have to interact with the public regularly, do to their anxiety and fear of embarrassing themselves in front of others. Some afflicted by this disorder may fantasize about idealized, accepting, and affectionate relationships, do to their desire to belong. They often feel themselves unworthy of the relationships they desire so they shame themselves from ever attempting the relationship at all. [1] Tncook10 ( talk) 16:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
References
this word appears in the table of subtypes as a characteristic of the conflicted avoidant type. The word links to an article about the sudden intensification of seizures and other neurological problems. It doesn't look relevant at all. Unless Millon was using the word metaphorically to mean that people suffering from this have sudden periods of feeling much worse about themselves? Lucy Kemnitzer ( talk) 02:16, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Lucy Kemnitzer
This may not be quite accurate - a person with this disorder would never want to speak in front of a large group "as themselves" but be quite comfortable doing this "in their professional capacity" e.g. lecturer, chairperson, preacher, teacher, tour guide (and yes, despite appearances they may get gang pressed into any of these roles) where the emphasis is not on putting one's self forward, but ensuring that a message gets across... 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:49E7:4428:F49B:8CCB ( talk) 09:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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69.171.160.192 ( talk) 21:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure Kantor's book should be referenced here, at least not without a caveat. Most of the cases he discusses seem to be about what we'd call "commitment-phobic" behaviours rather than the more broad spectrum of AvPD, i.e. general avoidance of social interaction, and the problems this produces.-- Eyeresist 01:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
As I mentioned in the Borderline Personality Disorder discussion page, I'm doing some research for a novel I'm writing, with a character who I thought had BDP. Having read this article on Avoidant Personality Disorder though, it seems like my character is more of an AvPD than a BPD. Thanks Wikipedia! However, I think those with AvPD share some similarities with BPDs. It's interesting stuff.
- Geelin 14:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Cheers, Geelin 08:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Do all Social Phobics have Avoidant Personality Disorder? If not, how do you confidently distinguish the two? This article's discription of APD sounds like things that go on in the mind of a clinically socially anxious person.-- J. Daily 19:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
I was diagnosed with AvPD nearly 6 years ago and I've done a lot research on AvPD and Social Phobia. From what I've learned, the difference is very little, but basically the feeling of anxiety in AvPD is a lot more severe. I had AvPD so bad that I couldn't even apply for a job or have any friends. It was to the point where I had to either ask for help or commit suicide. Fortunately, I sought help. I'm so much better now...have several friends, going to college, and have a job... So, yeah, that's my two cents. Ioxmo 02:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this article should make clear that, contrarily to some other disorders related to social interaction, a person suffering from AvPD is not happy with avoiding social interaction and staying alone, and yearns to somehow find the strength to communicate with other people and let them know her true self and be appreciated just like anybody else. I was diagnosed with AvPD myself and by no means does it mean that I will not attend a party or any social gathering. I actually seek such gatherings, each time hoping that it will be the day when I will really talk to friends who will be there and whom I love. Rano—The preceding unsigned comment was added by USER NAME OR IP ( talk • contribs).
I think the main difference is that one is a phobia and one is a personality disorder. So basically APD is when you have a certian personality that cuases you to avoid social situations and other symptoms as well such as feeling inferior to other, having a fear of rejection, which is not usually present in social phobia.
It's actually quite simple. Avoidant Personality Disorder is severe Social Phobia, much like how Narcissistic Personality Disorder is severe Narcissism. Der unaussprechliche ( talk) 07:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
It appears that the citations in the article are scholarly but not really very wikiupdated. So I propose that the format of citation in this article be converted to a more "linkful" one. I'm no expert on citation in wikipedia but I've seen other articles with external links which are more convenient to reference. However, I've just looked through the now recommended cite.php footnotes format extension (not the deprecated Footnote3 system), and I understand why there is an almost complete lack of external links cited and referenced. The system is quite a bit more intimidating, and the old Footnote3 format, which I was just getting the hang of, will someday soon be obsolete. So the author here chose to use an alternate method, which is acceptable according to one of the citing wikipages I've read. I propose that interested contributors discuss an appropriate re-citing to allow extensive external links. This could be either finding a willing cite.php adept to re-cite the present references, or one of the presently interested contributors changing over the present cites to Footnote3 so that it can be converted later, via a bot, also wielded by an adept. Interested parties please respond so we can all start thinking about this. Don't forget to use colons to indent your entries and please sign them so we all know who is saying what.
Now I want to add a citation that is marked "needed" in the article. By the way, this entry emphasises the above comments because some of the sources cited themselves offer a wealth of information as well as numerous corroborations and bibliographies, which enriches understanding. I had better create a new heading here so future editors can easily find this. Bearpa 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Found good article online with expansive documentation. This could cite to the end of the next sentence instead of where shown. I will try to cite in the APD article like the present author has, and enter the reference as shown in Wikipedia:citing sources and templates:cite web. One problem is the length of the article on one text page, so in notes, I will give a location in the article. Might be helpful, might be overkill. Please offer suggestions. Bearpa 18:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I wish to comment but there's a problem w/ your post that led me on a wild goose edit where I had to learn about reverts and undoing revert revisions (if that makes any sense at all). Anyway let me just copy an entry that was part of that ill-fated effort that might explain:
Sorry, I was not signed on when first appending the above unsigned signature (the posting was by Portillo on 30 September 2006). I'm getting an "editing a prior version" warning so that I'm worried I will unintentionally revert all later version (and entries?); if I do I will try to undo (not to sure of myself when it comes to the intricacies). If you'll notice, though, there are two equal sign (==) on only one side of the entry and there is no edit link (edit) in this post's section so there seems to have been a prob. w/the post, but I want to comment on this post. I hope I haven't flubbed things too much; not my intention. Live and learn. (Much chaos ensued when saved, but I'm OK now) What got me started here was that I really wanted to comment, to Portillo or any others, that this is a good question and I am curious as well, also about personality or anxiety disorders affecting those with long-term intrusive disease or medical conditions and/or long-term, chronic, or severe recurring pain. Anyone with experiences? Bearpa 04:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Now I am re-signing in realtime Bearpa 04:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
There is no mention of ppl who feel socially inept because of physical reasons such as scars or deformities. What does this go under? Portillo 08:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
am i missing something? why is 'the white rabbit' listed? 71.232.108.228 07:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone added this to the white rabbit page: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=White_Rabbit&diff=prev&oldid=109766817 I'm not sure what their reasoning is, it should probably be removed.
All we have for notable sufferers right now is two fictional characters. Does anyone know of any "real life" notable sufferers that we could add? -- DearPrudence 06:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Who is the second fictional character? I assume Shinji Ikari is one of them as its so obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.236.146 ( talk) 14:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC) I assume the 2nd fictional character is Holden Caulfield, widely used as an example of alienation. NoraTes ( talk) 18:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I know this now links to the page for "magical thinking", but could we elaborate a little more on it? I think that "creating a fantasy world" and "using magical thinking" are fairly different things. (Feel free to correct me if this isn't the case.) -- DearPrudence 01:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Should this link here? The Encyclopedia Britannica article on this is concerned mainly with behavior in nature, such as antipredator behaviors. Richard001 01:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
This is a page on Avoidant personality disorder. It is not a page on neurotic styles. Putting a differentiation section on this page creates an editorial situation where this type of section would then be required on every personality disorders page.
We would be better off creating a page on Shadow syndromes, or Neurotic styles, as opposed to addressing this here. -- DashaKat 17:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
what about eating disorders?
I think a list of comorbidities would be easier to quickly read than prose form. anyone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.212.236 ( talk) 08:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
This sentence, in the first section, needs clarification: "Whether the feeling of rejection is due to the extreme interpersonal monitoring attributed to people with the disorder is still disputed." Does this mean that they pay too much attention to people around them, or that they are paid too much attention to? -Me, 5/7/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.118.73.116 ( talk) 09:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
"Investment in fixed fantasies" What does this mean? I read the article on fixed fantasies, but a few examples would help, I think. AzureFury ( talk | contribs) 08:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
. The article also says that he was "known throughout his life as a loner", which to me implies that he was also avoidant. -- Mark PEA ( talk) 12:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)He was picked on by bullies at school, and took refuge in a fantasy world in which he retaliated against them
Fixed Fantasys does not mean one daydreams alot, although this is common among Avoidants. What a fixed fantasy actually means is an almost unalterable belief about oneself.i.e. AvPD=Delusions of inferiority. NPD=Delusions of superiority ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.247.12 ( talk) 09:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank You. 19:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.145.131 ( talk)
I'd also like to say thank you, although I know it is out of place on this page (feel free to delete this entry). I never really knew I had AvPD until I read this and it hit me like a ton of bricks in the gut that it was like reading something written by someone who could see into my hidden soul. I'd just want the people who contributed to this page to know that this page really helped me to get help. Just knowing there was something to define the way I felt and that there were likely others like me too has made a big difference and just being able to point people to this page when I need to explain why I am the way I am (which I can't do very well on account of the AvPD) really helps too.
Just to make this a little bit on-topic, I'd like to say I think the article is perfect and I hope nobody changes it (at least not much) because I am sure it is helping a lot of other AvPD people understand their condition and be encouraged that other (non-AvPD) people are being helped to understand them also.
Thanks again, and again, feel free to delete this (but I hope it can stay up for a while just so other contributors can read it and know their efforts are very appreciated) 82.43.197.132 ( talk) 21:31, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
This page used to feature links to chat rooms for AvPD sufferers and no longer does. Is this some sort of policy decision? Anyway, the old chat room for avoidants seems to have closed down. To try and replace it an IRC channel for AvPD has been created, maybe it can be linked to from here. Its irc://irc.slackhost.net/avpd. Easiest way to get there is prolly to use Mibbit through this link http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.slackhost.net&channel=%23avpd# —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.28.105 ( talk) 08:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
In schizoid personality disorder and paranoid personality disorder, we distinguish them from mood disorders. I went through a depression (of the melancholic subtype, I assume) last year, but some of my symptoms overlapped with this disorder, namely:
Even though I had the required amount of symptoms, I doubt that I suffered from this personality disorder.
My depression started after I had acted stubborn toward my parents, and the stress of schoolwork, topped by a failed relationship, procrastination and what sounds like
obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, contributed to the anxiety, but my depression ended with the school year (after it was so unbearable that I told my parents, and went for one uncomfortable session with a psychologist). I also had most of the symptoms of
dysthymia but they didn't last nearly long enough.
SO (for all you tl;dr's), I'd like to know whether major depressive disorder (which also included low self-esteem in its description) should cancel out the diagnosis of avoidant personality disorder, as it does with schizoid and paranoid personality disorders, because they share symptoms (that mostly didn't persist longer than the depression, in my case). I was anxious all of the time, and even more so around people (although I still feel nervous when at the mall or during oral presentations, as I always have), but I met nearly all of the criteria for a major depressive episode. Should we leave a note about this? MichaelExe ( talk) 15:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I tried to sign up with this group the other day. I don't seem to fit the requirements, though. I asked on another avoidant forum whether anybody was ever able to get an account there, and most said that they tried but got rejected as I did. I don't think the group should be mentioned in the article. --Anonymous Avoidant, 3 August 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.150.68.76 ( talk) 23:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I was in the BigTent Avoidant group. I e-mailed two moderators about people not being able to sign up. I never got an answer. A few weeks later I tried to sign in and found my account had been deleted. I don't think the group should be mentioned in the article either ---- Another Anonymoue Avoidant, 6 September 2009
Is there any famous people with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omegakingboo ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You shut your mouth/how can you say/I go about things the wrong way/I am human and I need to be loved/just like everybody else does
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Hi,
I created an external link section for this page and linked to a youtube clip of a subjective account of the disorder by a sufferer. The clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ7qYH4ud4U
I've two questions. 1) Is all youtube content to be considered under copyright?
2) Obviously external sources should be authorities on the subject. However, this is a link providing a subjective, first-person narrative of the disorder. It is not claiming a clinical perspective, but it should, I think, be considered authoritative as to the possible personal experience of the disorder. It's a very articulate and accurate account from the sufferer's perspective. Are all such sources barred from usage in wiki articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FiachraByrne ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I propose to add some more information of the disorder by adding some more details about the subject and those affected by it. Below is what i would like to add:
Avoidant personality disorder is more commonly found to be diagnosed in females than in males. Those with this disorder may often choose jobs of isolation so that they do not have to interact with the public regularly, do to their anxiety and fear of embarrassing themselves in front of others. Some afflicted by this disorder may fantasize about idealized, accepting, and affectionate relationships, do to their desire to belong. They often feel themselves unworthy of the relationships they desire so they shame themselves from ever attempting the relationship at all. [1] Tncook10 ( talk) 16:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
References
this word appears in the table of subtypes as a characteristic of the conflicted avoidant type. The word links to an article about the sudden intensification of seizures and other neurological problems. It doesn't look relevant at all. Unless Millon was using the word metaphorically to mean that people suffering from this have sudden periods of feeling much worse about themselves? Lucy Kemnitzer ( talk) 02:16, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Lucy Kemnitzer
This may not be quite accurate - a person with this disorder would never want to speak in front of a large group "as themselves" but be quite comfortable doing this "in their professional capacity" e.g. lecturer, chairperson, preacher, teacher, tour guide (and yes, despite appearances they may get gang pressed into any of these roles) where the emphasis is not on putting one's self forward, but ensuring that a message gets across... 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:49E7:4428:F49B:8CCB ( talk) 09:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)