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Woodrow Wilson

Should there really be a link to the Woodrow Wilson article in "see also?" Wilson did suffer a stroke in office, but AFAIK there's no contemporary diagnosis of anosognosia. This was hypothesized by a neuropsychiatrist in the 1970s. Moreover, the Wikipedia article does not make even an allusion to Wilson denying his incapacity, whether or not it had a biological cause. Gaijinlaw ( talk) 13:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Name

The name of this condition bugs me... In Greek, "anosognosia" means "knowledge of a non-illness". "Non-knowledge of an illness" would be "nosoagnosia"... Anyway, just my 5 cents. Poromenos 12:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Meh - probably because whoever named it didn't know Greek.. Could the confusion be related to a differing Latin and Greek syntax? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimw338 ( talkcontribs) 04:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Reversion

Hi Vaughan. I noticed you reverted my addition of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome, and I've just reverted your deletion of it. I reckon it is relevant under the "see also" section: it is a form of impairment that sufferers do not realize they have. OK, so it's not due to injury, but surely it's still relevant. best wishes, Robinh 21:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Fair enough, seems a good reason to me. Thanks Robin - Vaughan 10:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Pronunciation

Did I miss it or is there no pronunciation key for this word? User:68.229.223.112 18:42, 21 November 2006 Ano-sag-nosia

Treatment section

The last sentence of the treatment section goes strait into saying something about "inoperable limbs". It doesn't seem to fit into the paragraph the way it is. SadanYagci 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

Insight in psychosis

This article seems to have strayed from the neuropsychological syndrome of anosognosia after brain injury to largely talk about lack of insight in psychosis which is not what anosognosia refers to. The name is reserved from lack of insight after frank neurological disorder, as a search of PubMed shows. - Vaughan 07:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC) reply

The term's pretty common in psychiatry, due to the viewpoint of Fuller Torrey (Treatment Advocacy Center). Practically speaking, it refers to patients who challenge their doctor's point of view. 208.181.100.27 ( talk) 19:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC) reply
I just came to discuss this but saw that Vaughan has written it already. I really think that the article would be better if the psychiatric use of the term was kept separately, perhaps in another article or as a smaller note at the end of this one. It is primarily known as a neurological disorder and the article does not reflect this.-- Ihatechoosingnames ( talk) 22:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC) reply

"rooted in physiology"

"Unlike denial, which is a defense mechanism, anosognosia is rooted in physiology (for example, damage to the frontal or parietal lobe due to illness and disease)"

I assume 'rooted in' means roughly 'can be explained in terms of'. But then the claim seems contentious. Wouldn't some people argue that tendencies of the mind, such as denial, can ultimately be explained in physiological terms? Perhaps 'rooted in' is getting at the idea that defense mechanisms currently cannot be explained in terms of physiology, while anosognosia can. Omphaloscope talk 11:49, 1 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Unclear sentence regarding patient insight and coercion

I can't wrap my head around the following sentence:

One study of voluntary and involuntary inpatients confirmed that committed patients require coercive treatment because they fail to recognize their need for care.[11] The patients committed to the hospital had significantly lower measures of insight than the voluntary patients.

Isn't it the other way around? Or does it mean "had significantly lower measures of insight before they were admitted (coercively)? I'd add a "needs clarification"-tag, but I'm not sure if it's just me or not. Katana ( talk) 14:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC) reply

It makes sense to me as written. It's not clear to me where your difficulty lies. Looie496 ( talk) 16:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC) reply
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Woodrow Wilson

Should there really be a link to the Woodrow Wilson article in "see also?" Wilson did suffer a stroke in office, but AFAIK there's no contemporary diagnosis of anosognosia. This was hypothesized by a neuropsychiatrist in the 1970s. Moreover, the Wikipedia article does not make even an allusion to Wilson denying his incapacity, whether or not it had a biological cause. Gaijinlaw ( talk) 13:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Name

The name of this condition bugs me... In Greek, "anosognosia" means "knowledge of a non-illness". "Non-knowledge of an illness" would be "nosoagnosia"... Anyway, just my 5 cents. Poromenos 12:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Meh - probably because whoever named it didn't know Greek.. Could the confusion be related to a differing Latin and Greek syntax? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimw338 ( talkcontribs) 04:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Reversion

Hi Vaughan. I noticed you reverted my addition of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome, and I've just reverted your deletion of it. I reckon it is relevant under the "see also" section: it is a form of impairment that sufferers do not realize they have. OK, so it's not due to injury, but surely it's still relevant. best wishes, Robinh 21:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Fair enough, seems a good reason to me. Thanks Robin - Vaughan 10:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Pronunciation

Did I miss it or is there no pronunciation key for this word? User:68.229.223.112 18:42, 21 November 2006 Ano-sag-nosia

Treatment section

The last sentence of the treatment section goes strait into saying something about "inoperable limbs". It doesn't seem to fit into the paragraph the way it is. SadanYagci 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

Insight in psychosis

This article seems to have strayed from the neuropsychological syndrome of anosognosia after brain injury to largely talk about lack of insight in psychosis which is not what anosognosia refers to. The name is reserved from lack of insight after frank neurological disorder, as a search of PubMed shows. - Vaughan 07:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC) reply

The term's pretty common in psychiatry, due to the viewpoint of Fuller Torrey (Treatment Advocacy Center). Practically speaking, it refers to patients who challenge their doctor's point of view. 208.181.100.27 ( talk) 19:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC) reply
I just came to discuss this but saw that Vaughan has written it already. I really think that the article would be better if the psychiatric use of the term was kept separately, perhaps in another article or as a smaller note at the end of this one. It is primarily known as a neurological disorder and the article does not reflect this.-- Ihatechoosingnames ( talk) 22:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC) reply

"rooted in physiology"

"Unlike denial, which is a defense mechanism, anosognosia is rooted in physiology (for example, damage to the frontal or parietal lobe due to illness and disease)"

I assume 'rooted in' means roughly 'can be explained in terms of'. But then the claim seems contentious. Wouldn't some people argue that tendencies of the mind, such as denial, can ultimately be explained in physiological terms? Perhaps 'rooted in' is getting at the idea that defense mechanisms currently cannot be explained in terms of physiology, while anosognosia can. Omphaloscope talk 11:49, 1 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Unclear sentence regarding patient insight and coercion

I can't wrap my head around the following sentence:

One study of voluntary and involuntary inpatients confirmed that committed patients require coercive treatment because they fail to recognize their need for care.[11] The patients committed to the hospital had significantly lower measures of insight than the voluntary patients.

Isn't it the other way around? Or does it mean "had significantly lower measures of insight before they were admitted (coercively)? I'd add a "needs clarification"-tag, but I'm not sure if it's just me or not. Katana ( talk) 14:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC) reply

It makes sense to me as written. It's not clear to me where your difficulty lies. Looie496 ( talk) 16:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC) reply

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