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Should this article be merged with fundamental attribution error? 鈥 Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.165.106 ( talk) 16:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Actor-Observer Bias
Is there information that is missing or incomplete?
鈥 Cultural differences are not considered in the article. Various studies have found reason to believe that there are substantial differences in attribution across cultures (Knowles, Morris, Chiu, & Hong, 2001) (Masuda & Nisbett, 2001).
鈥 We will add a section on the cultural differences of attribution and how it relates to the actor-observer bias and use information from specific studies that explore such differences (Knowles et al., 2001) (Masuda & Nisbett, 2001).
- I think we should further elaborate on the cultural differences, as of right now it currently just talks about the results found from previous studies, it could potentially be improved by explaining what these findings mean, and what are the implications of these findings (i.e. explain how this means East Asians are better at making attributions to situational constraints than Americans). From there, we could mention how this resonates with other previous research that has also found these unique differences in how behaviors are attributed by people of different culture. (Choi & Nisbett, 1998) (Knowles et al., 2001)
鈥 The article should be strengthened from Gilbert et al. (1992). It would be a lot easier for the wikipedia community to understand how this works in a cognitive standpoint. The terms and definitions of characterization, categorization, and correction would be an excellent place to start.
Is there information that needs a citation? 鈥 Under the 鈥渁ctor-observer bias鈥 section, the authors cite 鈥淣isbett and Wilson, 1975鈥 but do not include this reference in the 鈥淩eferences鈥 section. 鈥 Once the Gilbert et al. (1992) extension is added, it would be necessary to add it to the 鈥淩eferences鈥 section.鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by Mickeyduck123 ( talk 鈥 contribs)
- Thanks for your suggestions. It would be great to have a section on cultural differences added to this article, to have more use of key references and more explanation of technical terms for newcomers. Please go ahead with your improvements. On a style point, if you use the asterisk * as a bullet point, then your lists will be formatted correctly. MartinPoulter ( talk) 10:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
1. Additional Information: I think we should further elaborate on the cultural differences, as of right now it currently just talks about the results found from previous studies, it could potentially be improved by explaining what these findings mean, and what are the implications of these findings (i.e. explain how this means East Asians are better at making attributions to situational constraints than Americans). From there, we could mention how this resonates with other previous research that has also found these unique differences in how behaviors are attributed by people of different culture. (Choi & Nisbett, 1998) (Knowles et al., 2001). [1] [2]
2. Correcting/ Adding Information: After reading the 鈥淩ecent Evidence,鈥 the theory behind actor-observer asymmetry is basically ONLY disproved and not supported. I think it would be prudent to add a research article that found evidence of this theory so that people who read this completely discount the information behind it. One of the articles in our bibliography, Krueger et al. (1996), studied people who were familiar with each other and found that this actor-observer bias is much more prevalent than what was originally thought. [3]
3. Additional Information: I would like for us to add information from our bibliography into the Wikipedia page if we could find a place to fit some of it. In the section 鈥淩ecent Evidence,鈥 the most recent studies they listed were from 2007 and I thought it was time to add more recent studies. There is an article listed in the bibliography for Critcher et al. (2012) about observers attributing moral and immoral judgments to actors based on certain decisions they make and the speed of those decisions. This could also be relevant for the 鈥淚mplications鈥 section of the Wikipedia page as well - observers make quick, harsh attributions that actors may be unaware they have implied through their decisions/actions. [4]
References
- ^ Choi, I., & Nisbett, R. E. (1998). Situational salience and cultural differences in the correspondence bias and actor-observer bias. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 24(9), 949-960.
- ^ Knowles, E., Morris, M., Chiu, C., & Hong, Y. (n.d). Culture and the process of person perception: Evidence for automaticity among East Asians in correcting for situational influences on behavior.Personality And Social Psychology Bulletin, 27(10), 1344-1356.
- ^ Krueger, J., Ham, J. J., & Linford, K. M. (1996). Perceptions of behavioral consistency: Are people aware of the actor-observer effect?. Psychological Science, 7(5), 259-264.
- ^ Critcher, C. R., Inbar, Y., & Pizarro, D. A. (2012). How quick decisions illuminate moral character. Social Psychology and Personality Science, 4(3), 308-315.
This article says that when people make attributions for their own behaviour, they tend to make attributions to situational factors. It then says "Yet when they make attributions for other people's behaviour". I am not sure that "Yet" is the right word to use here, I am wondering whether "However" might be a more appropriate word. Vorbee ( talk) 20:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
RE: "Against the background of a different theory of explanation, Malle et al. (2007) tested an alternative set of three actor-observer asymmetries and found consistent support for all of them."
The words "all of them" implies at least a few theories were under consideration. However, the article is discussing only if one theory of actor/observer asymmetry is valid or not valid. Perhaps "both asymmetey and non-asymmetry" was intended. REvans2001 ( talk) 21:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
"[...]the sort that had been previously proposed.[4] Malle interpreted this result not[...]"
Who is "Malle"? Why do i care what they think? If that's an author of the metastudy/analysis then tell us. Additionally it may be helpful to state why we should care about their interpretation when the value of such studies come more from the study itself being performed than much novelty on the part of the authors. 2604:CA00:160:9613:0:0:C67:8FF7 ( talk) 09:22, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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Should this article be merged with fundamental attribution error? 鈥 Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.165.106 ( talk) 16:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Actor-Observer Bias
Is there information that is missing or incomplete?
鈥 Cultural differences are not considered in the article. Various studies have found reason to believe that there are substantial differences in attribution across cultures (Knowles, Morris, Chiu, & Hong, 2001) (Masuda & Nisbett, 2001).
鈥 We will add a section on the cultural differences of attribution and how it relates to the actor-observer bias and use information from specific studies that explore such differences (Knowles et al., 2001) (Masuda & Nisbett, 2001).
- I think we should further elaborate on the cultural differences, as of right now it currently just talks about the results found from previous studies, it could potentially be improved by explaining what these findings mean, and what are the implications of these findings (i.e. explain how this means East Asians are better at making attributions to situational constraints than Americans). From there, we could mention how this resonates with other previous research that has also found these unique differences in how behaviors are attributed by people of different culture. (Choi & Nisbett, 1998) (Knowles et al., 2001)
鈥 The article should be strengthened from Gilbert et al. (1992). It would be a lot easier for the wikipedia community to understand how this works in a cognitive standpoint. The terms and definitions of characterization, categorization, and correction would be an excellent place to start.
Is there information that needs a citation? 鈥 Under the 鈥渁ctor-observer bias鈥 section, the authors cite 鈥淣isbett and Wilson, 1975鈥 but do not include this reference in the 鈥淩eferences鈥 section. 鈥 Once the Gilbert et al. (1992) extension is added, it would be necessary to add it to the 鈥淩eferences鈥 section.鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by Mickeyduck123 ( talk 鈥 contribs)
- Thanks for your suggestions. It would be great to have a section on cultural differences added to this article, to have more use of key references and more explanation of technical terms for newcomers. Please go ahead with your improvements. On a style point, if you use the asterisk * as a bullet point, then your lists will be formatted correctly. MartinPoulter ( talk) 10:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
1. Additional Information: I think we should further elaborate on the cultural differences, as of right now it currently just talks about the results found from previous studies, it could potentially be improved by explaining what these findings mean, and what are the implications of these findings (i.e. explain how this means East Asians are better at making attributions to situational constraints than Americans). From there, we could mention how this resonates with other previous research that has also found these unique differences in how behaviors are attributed by people of different culture. (Choi & Nisbett, 1998) (Knowles et al., 2001). [1] [2]
2. Correcting/ Adding Information: After reading the 鈥淩ecent Evidence,鈥 the theory behind actor-observer asymmetry is basically ONLY disproved and not supported. I think it would be prudent to add a research article that found evidence of this theory so that people who read this completely discount the information behind it. One of the articles in our bibliography, Krueger et al. (1996), studied people who were familiar with each other and found that this actor-observer bias is much more prevalent than what was originally thought. [3]
3. Additional Information: I would like for us to add information from our bibliography into the Wikipedia page if we could find a place to fit some of it. In the section 鈥淩ecent Evidence,鈥 the most recent studies they listed were from 2007 and I thought it was time to add more recent studies. There is an article listed in the bibliography for Critcher et al. (2012) about observers attributing moral and immoral judgments to actors based on certain decisions they make and the speed of those decisions. This could also be relevant for the 鈥淚mplications鈥 section of the Wikipedia page as well - observers make quick, harsh attributions that actors may be unaware they have implied through their decisions/actions. [4]
References
- ^ Choi, I., & Nisbett, R. E. (1998). Situational salience and cultural differences in the correspondence bias and actor-observer bias. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 24(9), 949-960.
- ^ Knowles, E., Morris, M., Chiu, C., & Hong, Y. (n.d). Culture and the process of person perception: Evidence for automaticity among East Asians in correcting for situational influences on behavior.Personality And Social Psychology Bulletin, 27(10), 1344-1356.
- ^ Krueger, J., Ham, J. J., & Linford, K. M. (1996). Perceptions of behavioral consistency: Are people aware of the actor-observer effect?. Psychological Science, 7(5), 259-264.
- ^ Critcher, C. R., Inbar, Y., & Pizarro, D. A. (2012). How quick decisions illuminate moral character. Social Psychology and Personality Science, 4(3), 308-315.
This article says that when people make attributions for their own behaviour, they tend to make attributions to situational factors. It then says "Yet when they make attributions for other people's behaviour". I am not sure that "Yet" is the right word to use here, I am wondering whether "However" might be a more appropriate word. Vorbee ( talk) 20:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
RE: "Against the background of a different theory of explanation, Malle et al. (2007) tested an alternative set of three actor-observer asymmetries and found consistent support for all of them."
The words "all of them" implies at least a few theories were under consideration. However, the article is discussing only if one theory of actor/observer asymmetry is valid or not valid. Perhaps "both asymmetey and non-asymmetry" was intended. REvans2001 ( talk) 21:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
"[...]the sort that had been previously proposed.[4] Malle interpreted this result not[...]"
Who is "Malle"? Why do i care what they think? If that's an author of the metastudy/analysis then tell us. Additionally it may be helpful to state why we should care about their interpretation when the value of such studies come more from the study itself being performed than much novelty on the part of the authors. 2604:CA00:160:9613:0:0:C67:8FF7 ( talk) 09:22, 7 February 2023 (UTC)