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Articles in the Washington Post from 1912 indicate that the trial of Ettor and Giovannitti was presided over by Judge Joseph F. Quinn of Salem. Tom Cod 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning to change this statement:
It is subjective, but is also somewhat contradicted, in mode of operation if not in specific detail, by one authority:
The text gives significant detail about membership numbers, local identifications, etc. in support of the above statement.
Posting here first in case there is discussion. Richard Myers 09:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
It's a moderately decent piece the way it stands, but there are virtually no footnotes, so it's gonna end up getting flagged. Please plow through and source this puppy! Carrite ( talk) 19:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed the claim that the slogan 'No gods, no masters' originated with this strike. The claim was not supported by the source cited (which merely stated that a newspaper using the slogan had drawn it 'from the IWW strikes'), and moreover is misleading at best - the slogan was documented long before this in French socialist circles. It's possible that this was the first English usage, but the source cited did not explicitly claim this, and the origin of the slogan should be acknowledged as the French version, not this strike. 128.232.229.27 ( talk) 23:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Citing sources as you go is tedious, certainly, but not nearly as tedious as going through someone else's text after the fact and trying to cite sources. This is an important article, and it needs to be done, so I'm working on this instead of creating new articles. In cases like this I often wonder if the original authors - always male, seemingly - incidentally? - don't know how to cite sources, or find it beneath them, and would rather leave that sort of work to others...an aristocratic mentality, you might say, relegating the dull, repetitive, thankless tasks to the lumpen proletariat of Wikipedia. Rosekelleher ( talk) 15:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
For the "No Gods, No Masters", Elizabeth Gurley Flynn's Autobiography has a few pages: page 150-151 The Rebel Girl An Authobiography Elizabeth Gurley Flynn International Publishers, 1955 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:CF80:5DC0:49B6:719B:F0C8:780A ( talk) 20:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
They earned $36 a month ($9 a week) and that is $810 in today money according to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/. Seems to be a decent wage considering it was in 1912. I'm removing the claims about their harsh living conditions because those are unsourced and most likely only few families were in that situation, not "many". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.252.3.13 ( talk) 07:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED. I realize people may have strong feelings over the subject's importance, but consensus sides with MOS:CAPS. I will not be reverting to the previous uppercase title, as this is a classic example of WP:BRD reaching a resolution. Hadal ( talk) 00:18, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
1912 Lawrence textile strike →
1912 Lawrence Textile Strike – Move-warring evident in the history suggests that the move was not uncontroversial and should be formally discussed to make a decision one way or the other. – Nikkimaria (talk) 17:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Edit conflict ...
To the Closer Since this page was lower-cased without notice or discussion I'd ask you to consider it as upper-cased if a decision of 'no consensus' is reached. The page was moved in December as uncontroversial when, if the mover was at all aware of the historic position of this strike within labor history (I'm not a labor historian but do know some), he would have made the connection that this would be a controversial move, and would have brought it to the talk page at that point while still capitalized. Thanks. Randy Kryn 11:38 23 March, 2015 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great if we could upgrade this to Good Article status and nominate it for "Did You Know" in time for Women's History Month? Rosekelleher ( talk) 15:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Or maybe Labor Day. Rosekelleher ( talk) 13:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I guess going to war over the capitalization of titles is more fun than looking up sources. In the GA nomination guidelines they say it's best to involve the original authors. So never mind then. And you're welcome. Rosekelleher ( talk) 17:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
To the editor who wants to change "Ettor and Giovannitti" to "Ettor and Arturo Giovannitti": They're not brothers. They have two different surnames. See also WP:SURNAME. --MopTop ( talk) 17:29, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Although it is common among pro-labor writers to refer to the management of the American Woolen Company and other textile companies as "mill owners", this is technically not true. The company was financed by the issuance of preferred stock on the New York Stock Exchange; the owners were the shareholders, who resided all over the place.
Cbmccarthy ( talk) 15:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
The final sentence of the 4th paragraph of the lede says "The strike also inspired the local Merrimack Valley holiday-time tradition of the Business Snake." I've lived a long life in the Merrimack Valley and have no idea what the 'holiday-time tradition of the Business Snake' is. The text is neither cited nor does the terminology appear anywhere, other than in this article, that I can find. If it remains uncited in a week, I'm planning to delete the sentence. Irish Melkite ( talk) 03:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 12:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
One place to go is http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5202/rebelgirl.html. Many other sites likewise available.
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Articles in the Washington Post from 1912 indicate that the trial of Ettor and Giovannitti was presided over by Judge Joseph F. Quinn of Salem. Tom Cod 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning to change this statement:
It is subjective, but is also somewhat contradicted, in mode of operation if not in specific detail, by one authority:
The text gives significant detail about membership numbers, local identifications, etc. in support of the above statement.
Posting here first in case there is discussion. Richard Myers 09:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
It's a moderately decent piece the way it stands, but there are virtually no footnotes, so it's gonna end up getting flagged. Please plow through and source this puppy! Carrite ( talk) 19:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed the claim that the slogan 'No gods, no masters' originated with this strike. The claim was not supported by the source cited (which merely stated that a newspaper using the slogan had drawn it 'from the IWW strikes'), and moreover is misleading at best - the slogan was documented long before this in French socialist circles. It's possible that this was the first English usage, but the source cited did not explicitly claim this, and the origin of the slogan should be acknowledged as the French version, not this strike. 128.232.229.27 ( talk) 23:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Citing sources as you go is tedious, certainly, but not nearly as tedious as going through someone else's text after the fact and trying to cite sources. This is an important article, and it needs to be done, so I'm working on this instead of creating new articles. In cases like this I often wonder if the original authors - always male, seemingly - incidentally? - don't know how to cite sources, or find it beneath them, and would rather leave that sort of work to others...an aristocratic mentality, you might say, relegating the dull, repetitive, thankless tasks to the lumpen proletariat of Wikipedia. Rosekelleher ( talk) 15:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
For the "No Gods, No Masters", Elizabeth Gurley Flynn's Autobiography has a few pages: page 150-151 The Rebel Girl An Authobiography Elizabeth Gurley Flynn International Publishers, 1955 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:CF80:5DC0:49B6:719B:F0C8:780A ( talk) 20:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
They earned $36 a month ($9 a week) and that is $810 in today money according to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/. Seems to be a decent wage considering it was in 1912. I'm removing the claims about their harsh living conditions because those are unsourced and most likely only few families were in that situation, not "many". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.252.3.13 ( talk) 07:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED. I realize people may have strong feelings over the subject's importance, but consensus sides with MOS:CAPS. I will not be reverting to the previous uppercase title, as this is a classic example of WP:BRD reaching a resolution. Hadal ( talk) 00:18, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
1912 Lawrence textile strike →
1912 Lawrence Textile Strike – Move-warring evident in the history suggests that the move was not uncontroversial and should be formally discussed to make a decision one way or the other. – Nikkimaria (talk) 17:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Edit conflict ...
To the Closer Since this page was lower-cased without notice or discussion I'd ask you to consider it as upper-cased if a decision of 'no consensus' is reached. The page was moved in December as uncontroversial when, if the mover was at all aware of the historic position of this strike within labor history (I'm not a labor historian but do know some), he would have made the connection that this would be a controversial move, and would have brought it to the talk page at that point while still capitalized. Thanks. Randy Kryn 11:38 23 March, 2015 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great if we could upgrade this to Good Article status and nominate it for "Did You Know" in time for Women's History Month? Rosekelleher ( talk) 15:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Or maybe Labor Day. Rosekelleher ( talk) 13:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I guess going to war over the capitalization of titles is more fun than looking up sources. In the GA nomination guidelines they say it's best to involve the original authors. So never mind then. And you're welcome. Rosekelleher ( talk) 17:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
To the editor who wants to change "Ettor and Giovannitti" to "Ettor and Arturo Giovannitti": They're not brothers. They have two different surnames. See also WP:SURNAME. --MopTop ( talk) 17:29, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Although it is common among pro-labor writers to refer to the management of the American Woolen Company and other textile companies as "mill owners", this is technically not true. The company was financed by the issuance of preferred stock on the New York Stock Exchange; the owners were the shareholders, who resided all over the place.
Cbmccarthy ( talk) 15:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
The final sentence of the 4th paragraph of the lede says "The strike also inspired the local Merrimack Valley holiday-time tradition of the Business Snake." I've lived a long life in the Merrimack Valley and have no idea what the 'holiday-time tradition of the Business Snake' is. The text is neither cited nor does the terminology appear anywhere, other than in this article, that I can find. If it remains uncited in a week, I'm planning to delete the sentence. Irish Melkite ( talk) 03:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)